***: jcv has joined #arpnetworks m0unds: yay. finally feels like winter again.
@weather kaeg BryceBot: Double Eagle Ii, NM: Overcast ☁ 30°F (0°C), Humidity: 61%, Wind: From the West at 12 MPH Gusting to 14 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=, or re-request this with: @weather -v kaeg brycec: @weather BryceBot: brycec: Fetching weather for your previous query (pws:IAUCKLAN208)
Hobsonville Aero, New Zealand: Overcast ☁ 67°F (19°C), Humidity: 72%, Wind: From the SE at 11.4 MPH Gusting to 15.2 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-36.725250,174.733063 or re-request this with: @weather -v brycec: d'oh
@weather 99019 BryceBot: Liberty Lake, WA: Clear 33°F (0°C), Humidity: 65%, Wind: From the East at 4.0 MPH Gusting to 4.0 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=47.666508,-117.100792 or re-request this with: @weather -v 99019 mhoran: What's with the decimal wind speed ...
That is not useful.
Ah perhaps translated from knots.
Division of some sorts. brycec: It seems odd that knots would be used for wind speed
Doesn't make much sense for anything but water speed mhoran: As a pilot, I disagree! m0unds: ^^^^^^ mhoran: Everything is measured in knots, w.r.t. airspeed, and wind. m0unds: yep mhoran: (Older airplanes do measure in MPH sometimes, but modern are all knots.) brycec: But I can't very well toss a rope out the plane windows and measure mhoran: Distance traveled is is also knots. brycec: mhoran: Not NM?
(Nautical Miles, not New Mexico) mhoran: Well, nautical miles (distance). m0unds: (i know) brycec: (i know (i know)) mhoran: "A nautical mile (symbol M, NM or nmi) is a unit of distance that is approximately one minute of arc measured along any meridian."
So yes, we don't measure with a rope, but it is useful for measurement vs. miles.
Of course my airplane was designed by an Austrian company so there's an awesome mix of knots, nautical miles, meters, statute miles, pounds, and kilograms.
Oh, and fahrenheit and celsius. m0unds: diamond? mhoran: Indeed. m0unds: cool ***: mnathani_ has joined #arpnetworks mnathani: @weather -v yyz BryceBot: Special Weather Statement in effect from February 23, 2015 until : extreme cold warningfor southern Ontarioupdated by Environment Canadaat 10:50 a.M. EST Monday 23 February 2015.---------------------------------------------------------------------Extreme cold warning for: City of Toronto Windsor - Essex - Chatham-Kent Sarnia - Lambton Elgin London - Middlesex Simcoe - Delhi - Norfolk Dunnville - Caledonia - Haldimand Oxford - Brant Niagara City o
Toronto-Pearson International, Ontario: Low Drifting Snow ❄ 3°F (-16°C), Humidity: 47%, Wind: From the WNW at 21 MPH, Pressure: 30.56inHg (1035mb) and falling, Dewpoint: -13°F (-25°C), Feels like -18°F (-28°C), Visibility: 15Mi (24km), UV index: 4, Sunrise 07:05, Sunset: 17:59, Lunar phase: Waxing crescent
Monday: Partly Cloudy 5°F/-5°F (-15°C/-21°C) | Tuesday: Snow Showers 18°F/9°F (-8°C/-13°C) | Wednesday: Partly Cloudy 11°F/-8°F (-12°C/-22°C) | Thursday: Partly Cloudy 10°F/-6°F (-12°C/-21°C)
The average high for this date is 32°F (0°C), and the record of 42°F (5°C) was set in 1998. The average low is 18°F (-7°C), and the record of 6°F (-14°C) was set in 1999 m0unds: sounds awesome mercutio: -25c?!
@weather akl BryceBot: Auckland International, New Zealand: Partly Cloudy ☁ 66°F (19°C), Humidity: 83%, Wind: From the SE at 7 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-37.00805664,174.79167175 or re-request this with: @weather -v akl ***: mumbledog has joined #arpnetworks
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ameise is now known as ant mnathani_: whats the most userfriendly BSD that provides a decent graphical interface for Desktop use? mike-burns: Are you asking us for our favorite BSD? mnathani_: sure, if you use it on a desktop mike-burns: I use OpenBSD on my laptop. mnathani_: do you find the array of software available comparable to that on linux? mike-burns: No idea, but it compares decently to FreeBSD. brycec: I've heard PC-BSD is aiming to be that uber-friendly desktop BSD
(But I've never used it)
Unless you care about 802.11n speed, or bluetooth, or... :P (re: OpenBSD compared to FreeBSD) mike-burns: Heh, indeed. brycec: (Not knocking, per-se, but somebody expecting "everything Linux does," especially desktop-oriented, would be disappointed. So it needed to be mentioned.) mike-burns: It's definitely fair to point out. mercutio: i'd just use openbsd
decent graphical interface to me = ion
but i'm pretty sure you can run gnome on it mike-burns: GNOME3 works.
But yeah, if you want full multimedia and all working hardware and so on, Linux wins. brycec: And FreeBSD (and PC-BSD, I'm told) follows up. mike-burns: Either way, LibertyBSD probably has the worst support. m0unds: PC-BSD was alright - i tested it on a notebook
used it for a week or two. didn't encounter anything that i wouldn't have also encountered w/linux acf_: I used PC-BSD for a couple of years actually
on my laptop mercutio: i've never had huge desktop issues with openbsd
when i first used it on desktop it worked a lot easier than linux
like just plug a mouse in and it works. although linux has fixed that now i think :)
the usb mouse support on openbsd was good before linux was good :)
also openbsd has a proper audio mixer now.
i haven't used it in years, but i imagine web browser issues may happen.
but if that's fine, everything else shoudl be fine.
you may have to use chromium/firefox as chrome may not be supported.
so you'll probably be missing flash support, which may be seen as an advantage. ***: NiTeMaRe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) up_the_irons: Call for testimonials: I'll put your image on our homepage (it'll be in a carousel with other testimonials) of the new website and also link to your twitter / blog / or any other URL. I need an image to go along with it: 81x81 or thereabouts brycec: I'll pass it along to my manager up_the_irons: sweet tnx ***: mkb has joined #arpnetworks acf_: brycec: funny thing with this
new Thinkpad
I can hear 60Hz hum in my headphones when it's plugged in
but only if I use the new style power supply that came with it mhoran: Fascinating!
I get that as well but when I use my noise canceling headphones it's masked by the white noise. up_the_irons: i think that's a bad ground somewhere mercutio: acf: so it's fine if on battery? m0unds: sounds like a crappy psu
those little switching dc psus suck
the one for my old laptop caused a ticking via headphone output or usb dac output. i got a replacement from hp and it did the same thing, so i got an aftermarket one and it stopped mercutio: they're normally interchangeable afaik
other than the 65/90watt diff
i dunno why they use 19v m0unds: barrel config isn't always the same mercutio: ahh
you mean polarity or size? m0unds: size and pinout can vary
both mercutio: ok, there's not that many kinds though -: m0unds shrugs mercutio: so i assume hp will work with hp, lenovo with lenovo etc
across models.
"for the most part" m0unds: i had two different hp laptops with two different sized plugs
yea mercutio: actually my chromebook has a slightly smaller power plug i think m0unds: both were elitebooks, one had a huge plug, the other had a tiny one mercutio: i have multiple things using the older big ones and just chromebook using the smaller.
i have a monitor that takes laptop psu :/ acf_: yea, it works fine on battery
and also on the old style power supply mercutio: but yeah doing a bit of research and finding a different psu may help
or just plugging it in somewhere elser
i've had hum issues with amps at times, it's bloody annoying
oh just use the old psu i suppsoe :)
does the US have earth plugs?
all the devices i see seem to be 2 pin rather than 3 pin
but maybe it's just what i've come across acf_: yes, but Thinkpad power supplies don't mnathani_: In Canada we do acf_: all of the other laptop ones I've seen do though mercutio: my chromebook psu doesn't. mnathani_: is the power polarized atleast? ie: can you plug it in either direction? mercutio: and it's a US style plug
mnathani_: either direction is fine acf_: same mercutio: it's cool how nearly everything has power supplies that can operate on different voltages now mnathani_: some devices here are one way only, still without earth / ground plug mercutio: all devices here are one way only
it's kind of handy to flip cellphone chargers aronud the other way so it doesn't block plugs mnathani_: anyone remember how to setup openvpn to provide ipv6 connectivity via an ipv4 tunnel? RandalSchwartz: I think you have to use the tap device instead of tun
tap bridges the lower layer as mac addresses, not IP addresses.
and then there's this: https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/IPv6
I wonder why they don't use fe80 addresses there acf_: you can do either a routed or bridged VPN
if your /48 is routed to you
ie,
eth0: 2607:f2f8:a0e0:1::1/64
tun0: 2607:f2f8:a0e0:2::1/64
route add -6 2607:f2f8:a0e0:3::/64 2607:f2f8:a0e0:2::2
assuming the other end of your tunnel is 2607:f2f8:a0e0:2::2
you can use fe80 addresses for some of those RandalSchwartz: yeah, you still have to use a piece of your /48 (ideally a /64) on your link
err... your machine at the other end
so it could be {internet} -> [your front facing /64] -> [fe80] -> [your second /64]
or {internet} -> [front /64] -> [tunnel /64] -> [back 64]
or {internet} -> [front /64] -> [tunnel /64] with no hosts behind acf_: also remember to enable routing in Linux
for IPv6 RandalSchwartz: if you use fe80 for the tunnel, not wasting a /64 even if you want to use a 64 in the back brycec: mnathani_: server-ipv6 {ipv6/netmask} is the directive for OpenVPN to hand out ipv6 addresses using routed/tun. After that, it's just a matter of configuring your system routing/forwarding. mnathani_: . /56 I think is routed
rather /52 brycec: /56 would be the standard boundary mnathani_: I used to have 3 VPS brycec: But /64 is the standard "smallest subnet" mnathani_: so the /48 is actually /52 on each of the 3 vps brycec: Ah mnathani_: so v6 didnt depend all on one VPS
atleast not one one of my vps, I later learned that all of ARP's v6 is on a VPS mercutio: you mean it's all bridged? mnathani_: routed
ARP routes each /52 to a different fe80:: /vps brycec: That's nice of Garry. Certainly non-standard mnathani_: non-standard indeed.
up_the_irons: I appreciate it up_the_irons: :)