#arpnetworks 2015-02-18,Wed

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up_the_ironss1.lax uptime is 6 years, 17 hours, 48 minutes
just sayin'...
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mnathani_So, s1.lax was last rebooted back in 2009. A lot has happened since then [12:03]
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RandalSchwartzyeah - wasn't the berlin wall torn down since then? [13:20]
mercutiohuh?
oh was that a joke?
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brycecbrycec assumed so
Pretty sure RandalSchwartz is old enough to remember the Berlin Wall's actual coming-down
Or maybe he's too old and is getting forgetful in his twilight years.
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m0undshbahaha
I was 5 when it was torn down
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brycecI was of a similar age [13:33]
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mercutioit happened in like 89 right? [13:52]
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antnov 9, 1989 [14:07]
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RandalSchwartzyou were 5? Tykes. :)
in 89... I was 28
and yes, it was a joke
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antpfff.. in 89 i wasn't even born [15:10]
m0unds>:|
you're not supposed to make me feel old
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up_the_ironsant: srsly ant, now i feel old [15:29]
BryceBotsrsly [15:29]
up_the_ironsi was.. 10 [15:29]
brycecheh
And nowadays, all these kids that were born in the '90s are now legit adults in the workforce, and I'm just like 'wtf'
up_the_irons: Haven't heard anything on the host system upgrades lately. How goes?
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up_the_ironsbrycec: haven't done 'em in a while. i think i want to do 14.04 upgrades now, but i need to do all the puppet config. very time consuming. [15:36]
brycecbrycec nods
Life happened I gather
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up_the_ironsbrycec: lol you're right about the '90s kids [15:36]
brycecI happen to be of an age that 90's kids were only just freshman when I was in my sr. year, so I've always regarded them as "super young" [15:37]
up_the_ironsyeah [15:40]
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mercutiosoon it will be 00's kids. [16:15]
brycecI know, right? [16:15]
mercutioi don't know much about current kids, but i do know that tablets and phones and so on are "normal" for them now. [16:15]
brycecI don't understand kids and their language these days... Terms like "bae" and "on fleek"
GET OFF MY LAWN
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mercutioso like they can't imagine a time without internet
and without being connected.
that said things haven't really changed /that/ much
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brycecI was in the last generation (give or take) to do schoolwork and research withOUT the Internet [16:16]
mercutiolike people had cb radios and walkie talks and stuff ages ago
discmans..
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brycecI'd argue that social dynamics have changed enormously [16:17]
mercutioit's just way more widespread and easier now
well yeah dynamics have changed
now days i kind of expect someone to ring me before seeing me, but i never used to
even if you're in the area, it's just so much easier to have a short phone call
i dont' see a big change though?
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m0undsit's distressing to see kids less than 12 years old w/smartphones
a lot of kids can't function without some electronic device in front of them - reading seems much rarer
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staticsafem0unds: Tycho spring tour o/
booked my ticket already, March 28
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mercutiom0unds: it's normal now though [16:36]
brycec16:19:07 ⤷ | i dont' see a big change though?
You see a change afterall ;P
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mercutiowell it's a small change rather than a great change to my mind [16:39]
brycecbrycec disagrees [16:39]
staticsafe90's kid reporting in [16:46]
mercutioi wonder where things will go in 15 years time
maybe changing hair colours with your phone
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m0undsstaticsafe: awesome. have you seen tycho before?
mercutio: normal doesn't mean it's not going to cause developmental issues
(i think it will)
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staticsafem0unds: nope, i couldn't get tickets for their last tour [17:01]
mercutiom0unds: yeh it probably iwll [17:02]
m0undsyou'll love it. the video aspect is awesome. [17:02]
mercutiolike nintendo thumb
but for the mind
more adhd etc
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m0undsyea, i've already seen it in some of our friends' kids
staticsafe: my wife and i were going to try to catch them in denver, but she's working :/
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staticsafeaw [17:04]
mercutioi was pretty adhd'ish as a kid
well borderline
but it seems to be about the new norm now
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sweet, openbsd is doing smp for network stuff [17:14]
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tinet have interesting reverse dns lookups, like 77.67.69.90
err 98
damn i need bigger text
77.67.69.98
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brycecInteresting because... it's just a TLD? [22:58]
mercutioyeh
and tinet/gtt/nlayer/whatever are huge now
and they can't even get dns right. it seems they put a . on the end, and named it strangely too.
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brycecWonder if it's intentional or someone just goofed their zone file
Well, all names in DNS end in .
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mercutiowell as much as it's confusing, most people use xe and location and so on
but in bind if you stick a . in it won't put the domain in
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brycecRight, handy shortcut
Still evaluates out to "blah.stuff.com."
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mercutioso yeah the . is probably what's not doing the suffix
but it's still a weird prefix
if you have domain stuff.com and an entry of blah.
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brycec(assuming your origin, or you're beneath, is stuff.com) [23:00]
mercutiothen it'll be just "blah" not blah.stuff.com
ping www
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brycecAnd everything below will be fucked over, I believe [23:01]
mercutioPING www.meh.net.nz (202.49.71.57) 56(84) bytes of data.
% ping www.
ping: unknown host www.
it stops normal search path stuff too
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brycec(below, in the zone file)
Well yeah, the Internet's top-most domain is '.'
that's why all FQDN's end in '.'
indicates there's nothing higher
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mercutioi don't like search paths myslef.
but i still have one heh
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