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_Zodiac has left mnathani: @weather yyz BryceBot: Toronto-Pearson International, Ontario: Overcast ☁ 12°F (-11°C), Humidity: 73%, Wind: From the North at 12 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=43.67722321,-79.63055420 or re-request this with: @weather -v yyz mnathani: @weather -v yyz BryceBot: Toronto-Pearson International, Ontario: Overcast ☁ 12°F (-11°C), Humidity: 73%, Wind: From the North at 12 MPH, Pressure: 30.14inHg (1021mb) and falling, Dewpoint: 5°F (-15°C), Feels like -2°F (-19°C), Visibility: 12Mi (19km), UV index: 1, Sunrise 07:25, Sunset: 17:40, Lunar phase: Third quarter
Monday: Mostly Cloudy 20°F/7°F (-7°C/-14°C) | Tuesday: Clear 25°F/16°F (-4°C/-9°C) | Wednesday: Snow Showers 29°F/23°F (-2°C/-5°C) | Thursday: Partly Cloudy 23°F/-3°F (-5°C/-19°C)
The average high for this date is 29°F (-1°C), and the record of 50°F (10°C) was set in 2001. The average low is 16°F (-8°C), and the record of 3°F (-16°C) was set in 2014 m0unds: i'd love for winter weather to come back
@weather abq BryceBot: Albuquerque International Sunport, NM: Clear 60°F (16°C), Humidity: 27%, Wind: From the West at 5 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=35.04166794,-106.61472321 or re-request this with: @weather -v abq m0unds: it's supposed to be 70 today
oh, 72 brycec: I miss Winter :/
@weather BryceBot: brycec: Fetching weather for your previous query (99019)
Liberty Lake, WA: Overcast ☁ 47°F (8°C), Humidity: 86%, Wind: From the NW at 2.9 MPH Gusting to 5.0 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=47.666508,-117.100792 or re-request this with: @weather -v m0unds: yea, me too
my buddy up in SLC is bummed they haven't really gotten any snow this season
we got snow/ice for a week, then 60s for the week following mercutio: @weather akl BryceBot: Auckland International, New Zealand: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 66°F (19°C), Humidity: 88%, Wind: From the SE at 5 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-37.00805664,174.79167175 or re-request this with: @weather -v akl mercutio: it doesn't feel that cold -: mercutio says as you all have colder weather than him brycec: @weather PHX BryceBot: Phoenix Sky Harbor International, AZ: Clear 75°F (24°C), Humidity: 31%, Wind: Calm -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33.42770004,-112.00379944 or re-request this with: @weather -v PHX brycec: ^ I used to live there, I would've had warmer weather than you if I still were :p
@weather LAX BryceBot: There is 1 weather alert in effect for your area! There is a High Surf Advisory.
Los Angeles International, CA: Scattered Clouds 67°F (19°C), Humidity: 80%, Wind: From the SSE at 3.0 MPH Gusting to 8.0 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33.927475,-118.412148 or re-request this with: @weather -v LAX brycec: And ARP Networks' is slightly warmer mercutio: wow california is nearly as humid as auckland
and bryce.. it's 9 am her.e. (well a little after)... it's going to warm up a little
whereas phoenix will be like 12?
but yeah phoenix weather is probably warmer
and dryer
@weather antarctica BryceBot: Multiple locations matched your query: Ago-3, AQ (zmw:00000.1.89528), Ago-4, AQ (zmw:00000.1.89598), Ago-5, AQ (zmw:00000.1.89627), Ago-6, AQ (zmw:00000.1.89637), Amery Ice Shelf, AQ (zmw:00000.1.89767), Amundsen-Scott, AQ (zmw:00000.1.89009), Base Arturo Prat, AQ (zmw:00000.1.89057), Base Baia Terra Nova, AQ (zmw:00000.1.89662), Base Belgrano, AQ (zmw:00000.1.89034), Base Bernardo O'Higgins, AQ (zmw:00000.1.89059), Base Esperanza, AQ (zmw:00000. mercutio: hmm what one hah
@weather Amundsen-Scott, AQ BryceBot: Amundsen-Scott, Antarctica: Light Snow ❄ Grains -24°F (-31°C), Humidity: N/A%, Wind: From the North at 16 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-90.00000000,0.00000000 or re-request this with: @weather -v Amundsen-Scott, AQ mercutio: well look, they have snow!
@weather north pole BryceBot: Multiple locations matched your query: North Pole, AK (zmw:99705.1.99999), North Pole, NY (zmw:12946.2.99999), mercutio: @weather North Pole, AK BryceBot: North Pole, AK: Partly Cloudy ☁ -28°F (-33°C), Humidity: 76%, Wind: Calm -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=64.760780,-147.328506 or re-request this with: @weather -v North Pole, AK mercutio: that's not really the north pole still is it brycec: mercutio: Right, it's 13.27 in PHX, so still going to get warmer. mercutio: oh really? brycec: On the time or the temp? mercutio: both brycec: @date BryceBot: Hey, that's right now!! [Interpreted date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 12:29:36 -0800] mercutio: so temperature gets hotter in afternonons there
and i didn't realise it was an hour later brycec: mercutio: It keeps getting warm until the sun sets
PHX is GMT-0700 mercutio: brycec: yeah it's not like that here ***: Eryck has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: actually it's often hottest around 2 pm
but can stay that way for a couple of hours
so if wind decreases it can feel hotter.
or if you're doing stuff it can feel hotter as you dry out
i suppose that's the difference between desert-like placeas and water-like places. brycec: (And of course it's not really the North Pole - there's no solid land at the N. Pole :P) mercutio: there's "solid" ice enough to put a weather station on?
or do they need a baloon? brycec: It's just water and floating ice
"While the South Pole lies on a continental land mass, the North Pole is located in the middle of the Arctic Ocean amid waters that are almost permanently covered with constantly shifting sea ice." -Wikipedia mercutio: yeah it's the shifting that's the issue i thin
However, the Soviet Union, and later Russia, constructed a number of manned drifting stations on a generally annual basis since 1937, some of which have passed over or very close to the Pole. Since 2002, the Russians have also annually established a base, Barneo, close to the Pole.
Barneo ice base consists of an ice runway and an ice camp. Because of the constant moving ice on the Arctic Ocean, it has to be rebuilt from scratch each year.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ny-%C3%85lesund BryceBot: Ny-Ålesund :: Ny-Ålesund ("New Ålesund") is a research town in Oscar II Land on the island of Spitsbergen in Svalbard, Norway. It is situated on the Brøgger peninsula (Brøggerhalvøya) and on the shore of the bay of Kongsfjorden. The company town is owned and operated by Kings Bay, who provide facilities for permanent research institutes from ten countries. The town is ultimately owned by the Ministry of Trade and Industry and is not... mercutio: this place is the further north that normal people can live in
permanent/public brycec: Barneo is still ~50 minutes South of the geographic North pole
89.18 N, 135.13 E as of 2010 mercutio: yeah
and it's still research town :/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longyearbyen BryceBot: Longyearbyen :: Longyearbyen is the largest settlement and the administrative center of Svalbard, Norway. As of 2008, the town had a population of 2,040. Longyearbyen is located in the valley of Longyeardalen and on the shore of Adventfjorden, a bay of Isfjorden located on the west coast of Spitsbergen. Since 2002, Longyearbyen Community Council has had many of the same responsibilities of a municipality, including utilities, education... mercutio: this place looks more intersting to me brycec: @weather Ny-Ålesund BryceBot: Error, No cities match your search query brycec: lame... mercutio: @weather Longyearbyen BryceBot: Error, No cities match your search query mercutio: @weather svalbard BryceBot: Svalbard, Norway: Clear -6°F (-21°C), Humidity: 55%, Wind: From the East at 9 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=78.24610901,15.46555614 or re-request this with: @weather -v svalbard brycec: @weather Yekyuchchyu, Russia BryceBot: Yekyuchchyu, Russia: Clear -41°F (-41°C), Humidity: 61%, Wind: Calm -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=66.76667023,131.60000610 or re-request this with: @weather -v Yekyuchchyu, Russia brycec: "The world's lowest temperature for February 9 was -64 degrees and occurred at Yekyuchchyu, Russia" mercutio: ouch
wow google is abandoning spdy
and progressing with http/2
and postfix 3 is out pyvpx: well almost all of spdy is in http/2 mercutio: ahh
spdy seems to work for web sites
when i was reading before, it seems that the biggest issues people have with it are encrpytion and that it's not really suited to normal file transfers. RandalSchwartz: I remember going by one those old time/temp signs in front of a bank (you kids won't remember those) in PHX... at 1:02pm it was 102 degrees.
so the colon would just blink in, and out and in and out, swapping places with the degree sign. mercutio: we had time/temp signs here too
although they tended to be high up
and banks tended to be street level RandalSchwartz: I said "I'm sure not staying around till 2:12 pm... water will boil" :) mercutio: heh
@weather akl BryceBot: Auckland International, New Zealand: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 68°F (20°C), Humidity: 83%, Wind: From the South at 6 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-37.00805664,174.79167175 or re-request this with: @weather -v akl brycec: lol RandalSchwartz mercutio: hmm i wonder where it gets it's readings
it's meant to be up to 21c already brycec: Banks still have time/temp signs... I don't know if they've changed significantly in any way though. mercutio: oh from wunderground i suppose
oh right it's ad ifferent part of the city brycec: (At least, not in the last 20 years... Besides the change in light/led tech) mercutio: @weather pinehill, auckland, new zealand BryceBot: Pinehill, NM: Clear 62°F (17°C), Humidity: 29%, Wind: Calm -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=35.246037,-108.759415 or re-request this with: @weather -v pinehill, auckland, new zealand mercutio: grr
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-37.00805664,174.79167175
that one is closer
@weather -37.00805664,174.79167175 BryceBot: Auckland, New Zealand: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 68°F (20°C), Humidity: 83%, Wind: From the South at 6 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-37.00805664,174.79167175 or re-request this with: @weather -v -37.00805664,174.79167175 brycec: mercutio: I pull up your link it shows me the airport still mercutio: maybe url doesn't work
yeah it doesn't update the top url
grr
http://www.wunderground.com/global/stations/WNZAA.html
nope still no good
http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=IAUCKLAN208
@weather IAUCKLAN208 BryceBot: Error, No cities match your search query mercutio: oh this is real time
well regularly updated brycec: @weather zmw:00000.3.93112 BryceBot: Hobsonville Aero, New Zealand: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 69°F (20°C), Humidity: 81%, Wind: From the West at 3.0 MPH Gusting to 3.0 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-36.782364,174.700165 or re-request this with: @weather -v zmw:00000.3.93112 brycec: oops wrong value
(no wait, right value) mercutio: wrong location :) m0unds: lol brycec: @weather 00000.003.93112 BryceBot: Error, No cities match your search query brycec: @weather zmw:00000.003.93112 BryceBot: Hobsonville Aero, New Zealand: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 69°F (20°C), Humidity: 81%, Wind: From the West at 3.0 MPH Gusting to 3.0 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-36.782364,174.700165 or re-request this with: @weather -v zmw:00000.003.93112 m0unds: i don't remember, does BryceBot accept icao or just iata? brycec: m0unds: @iata is iata only m0unds: but weather? brycec: And @weather is whatever the fuck wunderground wants to take mercutio: now i want a weather station hah m0unds: ok
so wunderground isn't lame and accepts icao
haha
@weather PABR BryceBot: Wiley Post-Will Rogers Memorial, AK: Scattered Clouds -23°F (-31°C), Humidity: 74%, Wind: From the South at 8 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=71.28256989,-156.79223633 or re-request this with: @weather -v PABR mercutio: Weather Station ID: IAUCKLAN208
so hhow do i get that one? brycec: @weather pws:IAUCKLAN208 BryceBot: Hobsonville Aero, New Zealand: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 74°F (23°C), Humidity: 62%, Wind: From the West at 6.0 MPH Gusting to 8.3 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-36.725250,174.733063 or re-request this with: @weather -v pws:IAUCKLAN208 brycec: mercutio: ^ m0unds: nice
good stuff brycec: That's how BryceBot: That's what she said!! mercutio: ok thats' weird, it still says hobsonville brycec: And if they don't return the right string... well that's their problem. mercutio: but itg's giving a different temperature brycec: mercutio: Looking at the webpage source, i see the same name
But not on the page banner
In the source, jump down to wui.bootstrapped.pwsdashboard
You'll see both names in the results.... No idea why.
wunderground's API has some shortcomings :p -: pyvpx was just looking at flights to NZ mercutio: pyvpx: why nz?
pws stands for primary weapons system as well as personal weather station. ***: reardencode has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) anisfarhana: Where is all the geeks here? RandalSchwartz: here? mercutio: s/is/are/ BryceBot: <anisfarhana> Where are all the geeks here? RandalSchwartz: I believe they would be "here" BryceBot: That's what she said!! RandalSchwartz: self-answering question anisfarhana: Where are*
Sorry. RandalSchwartz: or do you mean in real life? anisfarhana: Not having my sleep for more than 24 hours :D ***: pyvpx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
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RandalSchwartz has joined #arpnetworks anisfarhana: RandalSchwartz: I prefer your old host :D RandalSchwartz: which old host?
oh the unhidden host
I'm on freenode via ipv6. anisfarhana: I like v6.
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The box extended at least for 2 months!
2 months. I must work harder and be successfully gold digger in IRC.
RandalSchwartz: wanna be my first victim? RandalSchwartz: victim of what? mkb: http://www.martinbrandenburg.com/2015/ss/2015020901.png
do I have to have Unicode to use a computer now? How is that a sane default when there's regular quotes gcc could use just fine anisfarhana: RandalSchwartz: Will explain after this. RandalSchwartz: an ordinary ASCII file should be just fine to gcc.
are you sure your editor isn't adding a BOM or something? mkb: no it's outputting Unicode RandalSchwartz: one of your envars is telling it that it can, then. mkb: which my terminal doesn't understand, and as an added bonus, managed to not display the text in the quote RandalSchwartz: I think it's LOCALE mkb: I know. Because LC_CTYPE doesn't get transmitted through SSH RandalSchwartz: LC_ALL or something BryceBot: That's what she said!! RandalSchwartz: maybe LANG
I set both of them mkb: but the trade off is curly quotes somewhere or not even displaying the error message; it's obvious GCC should ignore locale and output regular byte 39 quotation marks RandalSchwartz: or you could fix your ssh path so that it's utf-8 clean.
that took me a bit of work, but eventually, I got it to work
all the way into emacs :)
emacs -> tmux -> ssh -> Terminal.app mkb: setting locale on POSIX breaks sort RandalSchwartz: it shouldn't
POSIX, or Linux?
do you have a citation for that so I can understand? mkb: yeah let me find it
the problem is that it tries to sort based on the locale instead of in byte order and now it's different and this can cause very subtle bugs
it's worse when you want to do things like convert all to uppercase and then all to lower
if you're in a german locale and you have their ss ligature you get � -> SS and then back to lower SS -> ss RandalSchwartz: sounds like a Gnu utils problem. mkb: this isn't the one about sort but you see: http://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/BashLocaleScriptDestruction RandalSchwartz: not a unix problem in general. mkb: well POSIX says sort respects locale RandalSchwartz: as it should.
if in my language, b is before a, that's how it should sort mkb: should it? then the order changes based on locale RandalSchwartz: yes
makes perfect sense.
some languages sort combo letters (like ss => es-set in german) as if it was a single character mkb: no. that sort of sorting is for user-visible stuff. sort really doesn't count. It's used in too many shell scripts which aren't RandalSchwartz: others place them at the end.
sort probably has some sort (heh) of switch to say "ignore locale" then mkb: and how do you propose to solve lower -> upper -> lower? Unicode knows the entire German dictionary?
has to be the other way around; old stuff doesn't know to say the switch RandalSchwartz: yeah, overloaded expectations mkb: But you're right; the GNU manpage says to set LC_ALL=C before running sort if you want an repeatable sort order RandalSchwartz: they're always repeatable. :)
you mean "consistent with classic Unix" mkb: and across environments
Whatever GNOME calls Nautilus these days can sort like that but a lower-level sort is going to have to go by byte order anisfarhana: RandalSchwartz: http://goo.gl/CxgF9 BryceBot: http://goo.gl/CxgF9 -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_digger RandalSchwartz: I know what a gold digger is
unless you're buxom blonde female, about 25, and very cooperative
you would not be one anisfarhana: Ha ha ha
BryceBot define buxom
LOL
I shoudnt define that in google
Pfttt brycec: BryceBot: no BryceBot: Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'LC_ALL or something' brycec: @ud buxom BryceBot: buxom: (Of women) Full-figured. Often quite busty and ample-bodied. Also see "real women". <2005-03-17T00:00:00+00:00> Example: "There was a time when voluptuous, buxom ladies were worshipped... but now anorexic women are admired instead." brycec: mkb: Giving your error a cursory glance, it appears that somewhere along the line, " was replaced by curly quotes (I blame OS X... Which incidentally causes problems when it replaces ... with a single-character ellipsis), or the file content was copy/pasted from a webpage (which also often replace " with curly quotes). In addition, your terminal may not be handling unicode (for any number of reasons, too
vast to detail)
The number of times I've seen errors like that... It was always a dead giveaway the student (I was TA'ing) had copy/pasted at least some part of their assignment and didn't even try and compile it.
Reading further into the error, I'm guessing lack of unicode was actually on the far end of your job, and recorded to the output as-is. anisfarhana: You are not going to add it to your bot Brycec mkb: brycec, nope lack of unicode is my end. whoever set up the computer I'm using thinks LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 is a good default, and gcc takes that as a license to print curly quotes.
not that there's a way to check, but nothing ever checks that the display end will know what to do with them
I guess this is the equivalent of TERM being set wrong nowadays
but I was more into complaining that computers don't just work than trying to fix it anisfarhana: You guys are weird.
Hmm..if i am using Medium now, can i downgrade to Small? brycec: I've never seen GCC spit out curly double-quotes, let alone be able to ingest them as regular double-quotes. *shrug* mercutio: why is en_US.UTF-8 bad?
what's a good UTF encoding?
i usually iso 8859
but that's not utf..