saw this ad on HN, not sure what to feel
We teach computer science using fullstack JavaScript. JavaScript is here in a big way and it is growing bigger every day. Today's internet demands real-time, interactive and dynamic apps that are built in JavaScript
what's wrong with it?
Only the first sentence seems like marketing mumbo-jumbo. The rest is pretty factual.
javscript is pretty fast now.
http://www.cdotson.com/2014/08/nodejs-vs-python-vs-pypy-a-simple-performance-comparison/
just got home; yeah - js is pretty nice nowadays, i do use nodejs, but i still have doubts about the whole full stack thing, especially since server side js is starting to break off into different camps, and you have to wonder if a portion of the popularity would be because browsers simply don't support anything else
that being said, for benchmarks and stuff, i honestly don't think i've ever seen things like typed arrays in js used outside of emscription/etc "compiled" js
and a lot of other fun things, like es6 support also get more fun to deal with in browsers, but at least you can sanely shiv it server side
oh i'm not actually a fan of javascript.
i'm just noting that people are putting a lot of work into making it go faster.
and node.js and the like sprouted from that.
yeah, and now node.js is splitting into slappy-camps that seemingly don't like to cooperate with each other
there's a second runtime or whatever for it now
And strictly, js isn't he only thing browsers support. Remember plugins? ActiveX controls? etc
brycec: yeah, but you get what i mean
i still use awk.
like i guess there was <script language="VBScript"> in the past
but that doesn't really count
the current fragmentation reminds me of freshmeat.net 15 years ago or so.
when everyhthing seemed to be about forks.
including gcc!
go egcs!
and glibc.
what happened to sourceforge anyway
or even codeplex
it's still there.
all i ever see is github nowadays
sourceforge has always been slow for download speeds for me.
and on the rare times i encounter sourceforge i can barely get 50kb/s from their mirrors
and it has these annoying mirror relocating things
and on new uploads, mirrors are often not even in the US, just some random mirror in eastern europe
which means you can't just copy url and put it somewhere else.
so you have to statrt downloading, then copy the url that's downloading.
i usually get 300k/sec+
you can wget it from the /files page
when kernel.org etc gives 3000k/sec+
if your useragent is wget, it'll 302 it to the direct file
unless you're downloading a windows binary
i use curl
can you curl http://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla/files/FileZilla_Client_Unstable/3.10.1-rc1/FileZilla_3.10.1-rc1_x86_64-linux-gnu.tar.bz2/download and tell me what it downloads?
i get 302ed to the direct download, and it starts
with wget
same thing with curl, but i have to force curl with -L
it 302s up to 3-4 times
nah it doesn't work in curl
it works in wget, and wow, i got 1.93mb/sec
from hivelocity
although it named it download.1
http://d.sfquickdelivery.com/?ic_user_id=128
weird
if i download in chrome it shows that
which gives an internal service error if i try downloading it with wget
so yeah it bloody sucks.
i'm pretty sure that's for malware
for like the "SPONSOSRED OFFERS INSTALLER" thing
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/filezilla/FileZilla_Client_Unstable/3.10.1-rc1/FileZilla_3.10.1-rc1_x86_64-linux-gnu.tar.bz2?r=&ts=1423450248&use_mirror=tcpdiag
that works.
although now it's getting 200k/sec
from iweb.dl.sourceforge.net
yeah i dunno what it is about sourceforge but i haven't been able to get acceptable speeds from any mirror
and only the largest projects actually get western mirrors from what i've encountered
i got 1.93mb/sec from hivelocity
i wouldn't call that very good though
it's way better than 155kb/sec
since github easily does line speed, but then again github is on a cdn iirc
FileZilla_3.10.1-rc1_x86_64-linux- 100%[===============================================================>]   6.33M   155KB/s   in 32s
github isn't cdn
it's about the same ping as iweb and hivelocity
they're all around 210 msec from nz, suggesting east coast US
Receiving objects: 100% (27342/27342), 14.39 MiB | 1.62 MiB/s, done.
i suppose still not wonderful, but it's faster than iweb :)
and later git pulls are quicker
what latency to/from github.map.fastly.net?
% ping github.map.fastly.net
PING github.map.fastly.net (103.245.222.133) 56(84) bytes of data.
zsh: bus error  ping github.map.fastly.net
i think i know the issue
it's just funny :)
lol
11 msec
and i fixed the issue
how's this for an obscure issue?  /etc/nsswitch.conf on arch linux has myhostname module in /etc/hosts
you resolve your own dns?
if that's in there, and you have too many routes, then netstat etc all randomly break when doing dns lookups
i'm using dnsmasq here, but that's not the issue.
the issue is i was experimenting with bird on here. (bgp)
and i have a full routing table, and that overloads myhostname.
so if you do netstat -t it'll crash
but you do netstat -nt and it's fine
ping is the same way it seems, so it'll be the reverse lookup on the ip address..
so what's on this cdn thing anyweay
cos my dsl is like 10 or 11 msec ping
i dunno, random chunks
github pages, downloads, presumablyt anything non-git
like git:// or whatever
well it doesn't seem the https clones are on it yeh
avatars0.githubusercontent.com is on it
https://avatars0.githubusercontent.com/u/1024025?v=3&s=40
that person looks familiar
can't tell what that is
is that elon musk i'm joking don't kill me
heh
interesting
even the github api is behind fastly cdn
i wish people would go to higher resolution avatars.
but large file downloads in repos are served from amazon cloudfront
didn't expect that
i dunno who this elon musk is, but his wife is hot
Do you really not know anything about Elon Musk?
i have heard of spacex
i did a little google
but his name doesn't register in my head at all
apparently he's a billionare :/
wow... What must it be like for you under that little rock of yours?
Essentially, he's mankind's saviour.
?
Tesla Motors, SpaceX, a lot of other ideas to better the world.
(And there's also Paypal...)
i've never seen a tesla car.
and spacex seemed like some kind of pipe dream.  and paypal is something that ebay uses :/
FYI Musk is unmarried
but yeah i don't know the high up names in paypal, ebay, amazon, etc.
yeah said that they broke up reconciled, broke up
you've never seen a Tesla? wow... that is one very tiny rock
well yeah there's no recharging stations here.
and it's 50km to the airport
don't they only run like 100km ?
@wa 260mi to km
convert 260 miles to kilometers;418.4 km  (kilometers);418429 meters;4.184×10^7 cm  (centimeters);225.9 nmi  (nautical miles);~~ 2.7 × length of the Thirlmere Aqueduct (world\'s longest tunnel) (~~ 154 km );~~ 4 × thickness of the Earth\'s atmosphere (~~ 100 km );~~ ( 0.066 ~~ 1\/15 ) × equatorial radius of Earth (~~ 6378 km );~~ ( 0.066 ~~ 1\/15 ) × polar radius of Earth (~~ 6357 km );~~ 3.8 × distance corresponding to one degree of latitu
oh wow they run much further now
oh and they look much more normal now too
maye i have seen one and didn't notice
also we dive on the left here.
which means there are hardly any americans cars.
and most cars come from japan..
tesla is south african?
It's American.
elon musk is from south africa
he was born there, lives in the us
http://www.3news.co.nz/nznews/bringing-the-tesla-electric-car-to-nz-2014112218#axzz3RDJwlNnD
hey do you know anything about australia, mercutio, because if so i have an incredibly stupid question
looks like the first one came in in november last year
hazardous: a little
space-x is going to have a facility + hangar down in southern nm at the space port
ok can i ask a really stupid question then
could anyone recommend 1 over the other for an online photo gallery: 4images	OR	Coppermine OR	Gallery OR  Piwigo OR  Pixelpost OR  Zenphoto
sure, go ahead.
m0unds: Well, maybe. if that project ever actually gets anywhere... :P
someone linked this in another channel - http://i.imgur.com/ttMlwGB.png - i have absolutely no idea why it's supposed to be funny other than the top flags are aus states
which project?
m0unds: the spaceport
mnathani: for some reason at least half of those stand out to me as really overbloated php applications with many security issues in the past
construction is complete
it's hinging on virgin at this point
m0unds: yeah, but Virgin ^^
they're paying for it, but it's been delayed repeatedly
hazardous: would you recommend a different software?
The only self-hosted image gallery I'm familiar with is Gallery (or is it Gallery2?)
mnathani: from (probably dated, but probably still applies) i wouldn't use coppermine or 4images at the very least
it'd probably be easier to recommend something if you had a use case
like personal vacation photos or something to upload for friends - maybe a static site generator or something
well australians curse a lot
flickr wouldn't work?
but yeah no it seems like random australian crap to me
showcase photographs I take publicly
yeah, would you consider some kind of photoblog software for it/portfolio cms thing
I don't like how flickr doesnt give me google analytics style statistics
smugmug works if you plan on selling prints
flickr does full page interstitials for anyone with a mobile user agent btw
and can change its frontend without notice
i'd just write my own :/
and occasionally forced redirects to play store / ios store
lol
but i think gallery is ocommon?
http://galleryproject.org/ ^
"The Gallery team has decided to take a step back from actively maintaining this project. Truth be told, most of the core team got busy with their lives over the past few years and we haven't had the time to really actively maintain the project in a long time"
I used it years and years ago, no issue. it's pretty common...
http://www.ubergallery.net/demo/
this looks simple enough?
mercutio: i dunno, could give it a try, if it was for some kind of portfolio or showcase site i might be inclined to use ghost or wordpress or something with an appropriate theme
i used gallery years ago, but it was a total pig
if all you're doing is hosting images, you could even do a flat html template and host via s3 or something
galleryproject.org says they plan on going readonly, then shutting down their site soon
yeah i was going to say consider some kind of static site generator maybe
if it isn't going to be some public shared upload gallery thing
checking out flickr again
I haven't been able to find anything that comes anywhere close to Flickr
i'm a fan of smugmug myself
wow. that looks nice
i think i pay like $60/yr for my acct. i back up all my photos to it, can use a vanity domain, control the template, etc.
good customer service too, always really fast to answer questions and fix stuff
hmm smugmug is yet another site on cloudflare.
cloudflare is getting so popular these days.
yep, what works works
i used to hold a pretty negative view on it, because it tended to be slow, but you can't beat the pricing.
oh, $48/yr i guess
and performance has got better over time.
i wonder how much trafifc they're doing now
bank of america online payments uses cloudflare
im not sure what to think about that, or whether to like it.
i wouldn't be impressed.
i would not use bank of america over that.
one of the big banks here runs on windows.
the bank that i use runs on solaris/java
and they also peer :/
they did have path mtu issues in teh past. i  don't know if they still do, but they block icmp echo
banks are so behind the times on tech, but it's hard for them to be faster movers
it's kind of to be expected
so it seems bank of america is using prolexic
where is their cloudflare stuff?
As of March 2014, CloudFlare was ranked in the top 10 of the world's worst hosts and networks based on malicious traffic it hosts
" " ^
off Wikipedia
it's free to host on there
tbh i'm not really that opposed to a global cdn hosting web sites with stolen credit cards.
because they're not really a host
they just proxy the traffic
and once they start deciding what is good and bad to host it's a slippery slope
now i'm tempted to google my old credit card #
dreamhost is higher on that list