JC_Denton: i'm pretty sure it's not that 4U beast ;)
or what looks like 4U mercutio: it's a blade!
it's mounted vertically in that chassis JC_Denton: that size?
they seem too small
or am i too used to the monster Blade Center sized blades up_the_irons: yup, 8 servers in 3U
http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/3U/5038/SYS-5038ML-H8TRF.cfm
they are indeed tiny brycec: *breathing intensifies* up_the_irons: LOL JC_Denton: damn
my how times have changed brycec: I love servers that have a USB port on-board, internally, so you can put the OS on it, or recovery, or whatever... mercutio: that's pretty common bryce
i don't like it myself
i didn't think of recovery, but it's a pita to change
some kind of more secure slot or something woudl be nice though
an sdcard slot?
that pushes in like laptops
actually having more than one could be good too
i like the idea of pxe boot recovery best.
makes it easier to udpate etc. brycec: mercutio: it didn't used to be common. :p
And presumably, it's not going to be changed often. Installed once when built, and it can be rewritten/changed later as-needed (if used for recovery/reinstall), or if it's used for OS install then it's simply there. mercutio: hp servers have for ages ***: dj_goku_ has joined #arpnetworks
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trying to find a year for that though
2006
it seems g4 does too ***: DaCa_ has joined #arpnetworks
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mnathani_ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) mercutio: so does anyone know how the git /etc thing is meant to work?
do you just do it like any other git repository, or is there a way to make it more secure? brycec: mercutio: you talking about git-annex?
https://git-annex.branchable.com/ mercutio: i dunno what i'm talking about
i just thought i should try using git for /etc brycec: Then that's what you're talking abotu ;) mercutio: but i haven't looked into it before.
i found something called etckeeper so far
do you use /etc on git? brycec: Me? I do not.
I knew someone else that used git-annex mercutio: does git-annex auto-commit? brycec: mercutio: No. See https://git-annex.branchable.com/walkthrough/ mercutio: ok nice long wlakthrough
i will have to check it out tomorrow i think brycec: heh, the core is in the first few examples, a quick skim is all that's needed mercutio: ahh brycec: If you want to store the files too (full on git, not just git-annex), then it's a simple "cd /etc/ ; git init" (etc etc etc) mercutio: i'm mostly thinking about how to get it to automaically store stuff
and record changes
even if people don't commit every change
ie it's only updated from one place for one machine jlgaddis: http://evilrouters.net/2011/02/18/using-etckeeper-with-git-on-ubuntu/ mercutio: maybe git isn't the cleanest way? jlgaddis: what are you using it on?
the os, i mean? brycec: You could put the commit in cron, or put some elaborate hook in your .profile... But I don't see any other "automatic" way mercutio: ubuntu brycec: s/u/ew/ BryceBot: <mercutio> ewbewntew jlgaddis: well, there ya go. see link. mercutio: haha
jlgaddis: are you using it? jlgaddis: yup mercutio: ahh this looks a little better
"Though I think we would all agree that it???s important, the unfortunate fact is that myself and other members of my ???team??? don???t necessarily document things as well as we always should. "
that's so prevalent. brycec: As someone that's taking over the sysadmin role at a company with a surprisingly complex, and very interwoven with the product they sell, IT structure... Yeah, so true.
"How the fuck does that database replicate to that server? WHO KNOWS!" jlgaddis: once it's installed and initialized, you don't have to touch it. you *can* commit changes manually after you make them if you want (and i'd recommend it) but if you forget, they'll be auto-committed via a nightly cron job.
and apt hooks into etckeeper also, to do pre- and post- "apt stuff" commits brycec: (There were some efforts to document the design aspects later on, but I still have to figure out all the little nuances and try and roll-out a duplicate environment)