https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T024FMKLM-F03EQA7ET/img-20150123-wa0001.jpg mnathani_: you sending outgoing via smtp? mnathani_: I believe mike-burns has that set up, but I'm not sure. He is in CEST so he may not see you need help for a few hours. Oh I guess it's CET in winter. I need to login to see the image? heh i was wondering what that image was too I guess I'll never know :p My VPS sends mail, probably some of it on 25 Then again, 90+% is going to gmail, so it should be tls with the right spf records you shouldn't relaly need to bounce via fastmail? brycec: is it enforced tls though? Nope these nice un-tls attacks happening and all. i wonder if tehre is a standard to enforce tls for some domains. (it's just a simple default exim config) you could probably just enforce tls for gmail, but that would just be gmail. Yeah, as a sysadmin it's highly impractical (and this email isn't sensitive. Mostly rss2email) up_the_irons: my MTA, exim used to send via SMTP, but I am trying to use SMTP Authentication for outbound using mutt normal smtp auth isnt' too difficult i seem to call recall so it's probably a bit of a nerdgasm, but i wonder if it's possible to get a photo of my box in the data center JC_Denton: heh There are photos of ARP boxes in the DC, one of them could be yours they all look the same :/ mercutio: they are labeled though ahh. up_the_irons hasn't published photos in awhile though so if it's a newer node, probably not even there. dedicated server ;) Think there was a photo of one of them too... At least the build of one (but probably not *yours* in that case) That's what she said!! mercutio: See, kvr labels https://www.flickr.com/photos/130053163@N03/16307207656/ :) Once upon an ARP https://www.flickr.com/photos/51184165@N00/367782983/ (2007). It's come a long way since. mnathani_: re: mutt, i found it's easier to just use msmtp locally and let it handle the actual outbound delivery it's nice if/when you send messages with 25 mb attachments and don't have to wait for it to actually get sent before you regain use of mutt I would imagine you could substitute any MTA that queues (what doesn't?) in place of exim there, such as opensmtpd (small and trim, very powerful, plus it's Open) *nod* i used msmtp because you could configure it to use different mail servers based on $from you could *easily* configure :p I mean, you can do that with practically any MTA. Just a matter of how easy it is. OpenSMTPD is: accept sender { "@company", "bob@bobco.com" } relay via ... i don't use that for anything other sending locally generated out to a relayhost mnathani_: i used to use smtp auth in mutt. worked. JC_Denton: what's the label of your dedi? (or is it colo'd) flickr down lame. worked earlier, down now.