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CVE-2015-0235 [12:37] http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2015/01/27/9 [12:38] oh that' snot something that brycebot works with, gethostbyname vulnerability in linux [12:40] *** brycec is now known as THE_BANANA_KING [12:45] hi bryce [12:55] hey mercutio [12:56] I'm happy to say there are exactly 0 calls to gethostbyname in BryceBot [12:57] PHP on the other hand probably has a few, but I made it a policy to never open random/arbitrary URLs in BryceBot. Plus IRC line lengths limit what you can do [13:02] i meant something that brycebot would parse the header of, and explain what it is :) [13:02] but it's good to see you're not looking up random names too. [13:02] a lot of software does though. [13:52] *** mnathani_ has joined #arpnetworks [14:13] https://gist.github.com/anonymous/47b95648f1f419919ee5 [14:13] Gist: "https://gist.github.com/47b95648f1f419919ee5" [14:14] traceroute to ARP using my new Fibe / VDSL connection [14:14] is it me or is there just a lot of RFC1918 going on there [14:15] Not especially a lot, no. [14:15] first hop is my Mikrotik Router [14:15] At least not in my experience with ISPs (as a customer) [14:16] rest is the ISP [14:16] Where "rest" is just 3 more rfc1918 hops [14:16] And then you reach Bell's core network [14:32] mnathani: Does your Mikrotik have a public IP on its external interface, or are you on a hellish CGNAT service? [14:46] public ip on pppoe interface, yes [14:47] and they dont limit the number of pppoe sessions [14:47] I know I am using 2 public Ips right now - one for their modem / access point, another on the Mikrotik [14:48] mnathani: what was your old route like? [14:49] i hate it when i see even one rfc1918 hop on an isp [14:49] but it isn't really an issue normally [14:49] ^ [14:49] mnathani: they may complain if you use 100 :) [14:50] mnathani: and how can it be a fibre / vdsl connection. is it ftth or fttb? [14:50] or fttb [14:50] god fttx :) [14:51] fttb didn't even meant what i thought it did. i meant fibre to the block [14:51] fttn is what i was thinknig of it seems. [14:51] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber_to_the_x [14:51] Fiber to the x :: Fiber to the x (FTTX) is a generic term for any broadband network architecture using optical fiber to provide all or part of the local loop used for last mile telecommunications. The term is a generalization for several configurations of fiber deployment, ranging from FTTN (fiber to the neighborhood) to FTTD (fiber to the desktop). Definitions The telecommunications industry differentiates between several distinct... [14:52] and now it seems it's probably fttc [14:53] but shifting to fttn/fttp [14:53] actually with that huge ping it probably is vdsl. [14:53] old route was hurricane electric [14:53] less hops [14:53] less latency [14:54] well it looks like hop 2 is really high latency. [14:54] unless it's far away. [14:54] I am guessing its the DSLAM [14:54] suggesting vdsl interleaving. [14:54] yeah it's probably 8 msec upstream 8 msec downstream at a guess. [14:54] they had to bond 2 lines though [14:54] but it may be a combination.. [14:55] it maybe 8/1 then [14:55] what speed are you at? [14:55] advertised: 25/10 [14:55] actual : 26/1.5 [14:55] yeah you should be able to get that with a single line normally :) [14:55] ouch on the upstream [14:55] so you're probably far away. [14:55] is it noisy or something? [14:55] that's adsl speeds. [14:55] the guy says its upto 10 not 10 guaranteed [14:55] yeah, sounds like it's stepping down the upstream [14:56] oh and tv is on the same network [14:56] vdsl hardly ever steps down downstream [14:56] even at 13 megabit sync you should get more than 800kbit up [14:56] which is why i thought adsl. [14:56] so if you record multiple channels simultaneously, it will slow down the internet [14:56] i wonder if the bonding is screwed. [14:56] maybe it doesn't bond upstream properly? [14:57] have you tried iperf in udp mode? [14:57] or with parallel connections [14:57] I think I am 1.4 km away from the DSLAM [14:57] haven't tried the iperf yet [14:57] tehy really just need a closer dslam. [14:58] vdsl is so much less intrusive than fibre. [14:58] pfft the only thing /they/ need is more money. what /mnathani/ needs on the other hand... [14:58] meaning higher uptake, quicker installs. [14:58] i mean i'd love 100 megabit upload [14:58] but it seems general aims are more ilke 100 megabit down 20 up now? [14:59] docsis and vdsl are kind of pushing speeds up surprisingly on terrible lines. [15:00] and i don't think vdsl has had a bump recently, so it's likely to jump upa gain [15:03] oh are you geting terrible weather mnathani ? [15:03] @weathe yyz [15:03] @weather yyz [15:03] Toronto-Pearson International, Ontario: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 19°F (-7°C), Humidity: 42%, Wind: From the NNW at 16 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=43.67722321,-79.63055420 or re-request this with: @weather -v yyz [15:03] eek [15:04] kinda cold [15:04] do you have to go out in weather like that? [15:04] breezy and cold [15:04] we do [15:04] have to go out that is [15:05] the magic of internet [15:05] it's so weird how people can have such different weather [15:06] it looks kind of warm on that web site, until i realise it's farenheit not celsius [15:06] @weather -v yyz [15:06] Toronto-Pearson International, Ontario: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 19°F (-7°C), Humidity: 42%, Wind: From the NNW at 16 MPH, Pressure: 30.15inHg (1021mb) and rising, Dewpoint: 0°F (-18°C), Feels like 5°F (-15°C), Visibility: 15Mi (24km), UV index: 0, Sunrise 07:40, Sunset: 17:22, Lunar phase: First quarter [15:06] Tuesday: Clear 19°F/7°F (-7°C/-14°C) | Wednesday: Clear 30°F/17°F (-1°C/-8°C) | Thursday: Snow 31°F/9°F (-1°C/-13°C) | Friday: Partly Cloudy 9°F/-1°F (-13°C/-18°C) [15:06] The average high for this date is 27°F (-2°C), and the record of 51°F (10°C) was set in 2002. The average low is 13°F (-10°C), and the record of -9°F (-22°C) was set in 2005 [15:06] i was trying to find the forecast [15:06] atleast its not -22°C [15:07] so is that a high -7 c? [15:07] it's been quite a few years since i've experienced 3c let alone -7c [15:07] and i can't evne imagine -22c. [15:08] oh and -7 feels like -14 with the wind [15:08] oh you can click on gear icon and change to C [15:08] ouch [15:08] keeping things real [15:08] weird it just changed to -9c [15:08] and feels like -15c [15:10] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal) [15:10] @weather scn [15:10] There is 1 weather alert in effect for your area! There is a Snow/Ice Es muss mit Glätte durch überfrierende Nässe, in [15:10] höheren Lagen auch durch einzelne Schneeschauer gerechnet werden. . [15:10] Saarbrucken, Germany: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 34°F (1°C), Humidity: 100%, Wind: From the West at 7 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=49.21282959,7.10769987 or re-request this with: @weather -v scn [15:10] pretty warm [15:10] Toronto is under another extreme cold weather alert, the seventh one of the year so far covering 10 days in January. [15:13] *** _Zodiac has joined #arpnetworks [15:13] *** _Zodiac has left [15:15] *** mnathani__ has joined #arpnetworks [15:16] it's stupid warm here for some reason [15:17] *** mnathani_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [15:17] it's 29c in this room [15:17] feels too hot to me [15:17] it was almost 18C here today [15:17] that sounds cold to me heh [15:17] it's winter here [15:17] there's a low of 19c here today [15:17] yeah [15:18] we get 18c in winter here [15:18] our typical high in january is -1C [15:18] ok [15:18] now that's a striking contrast [15:18] lows ~-12C [15:18] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [15:18] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Changing host) [15:18] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [15:18] this is weather like we'd typically see in maybe late march/early april [15:18] that seems to be a reoccuring pattern around the world [15:19] atypical weather is the norm :) [15:19] yeah [15:19] it's kind of disconcerting. [15:19] *** THE_BANANA_KING is now known as brycec [15:19] we had snow last week. that was nice. [15:19] i love snow [15:19] Me too [15:19] my wife borked one of her wheels hitting an icy patch and smacking a curb [15:19] going like 5mph [15:19] i hate melted snow that just goes all muddy/wet [15:19] That's what she said!! [15:19] I moved here, in part, for the snow. It has snowed maybe 4 or 5 times this whole winter :( [15:20] 4 or 5 times sounds ok? [15:20] winter isn't over yet? [15:20] Last year it was snowing at least once a week. [15:20] brycec: where are you again? [15:20] Canadian border [15:20] oh, WA, right? [15:20] (Spokane) [15:20] yeah, inland [15:20] gotcha [15:20] @weather -v [15:20] brycec: Fetching weather for your previous query (zmw:00000.1.10866) [15:20] Snow/Ice Schauerartig verstärkter Schneefall, 5 bis 10 cm [15:20] Neuschnee, Glätte.  in effect from 2015-01-27 20:51:00 GMT until 2015-01-289:00:00 GMT: Snow/Ice Schauerartig verstärkter Schneefall, 5 bis 10 cm Neuschnee, Glätte. )... [15:20] Munich, Germany: Snow ❄ 31°F (0°C), Humidity: 90%, Wind: Calm, Pressure: 30.12inHg (1020mb) and falling, Dewpoint: 29°F (-2°C), Feels like 32°F (0°C), Sunrise 07:46, Sunset: 17:05, Lunar phase: First quarter [15:20] Wednesday: Partly Cloudy 35°F/28°F (2°C/-2°C) | Thursday: Snow 38°F/30°F (3°C/-1°C) | Friday: Overcast 33°F/22°F (1°C/-6°C) | Saturday: Mostly Cloudy 37°F/21°F (3°C/-6°C) [15:20] The average high for this date is 35°F (1°C), and the record of 59°F (15°C) was set in 2002. The average low is 22°F (-5°C), and the record of -4°F (-20°C) was set in 2005 [15:20] doh [15:21] @weather -v 99019 [15:21] hahahah [15:21] Liberty Lake, WA: Partly Cloudy ☁ 42°F (5°C), Humidity: 85%, Wind: From the SE at 2.0 MPH Gusting to 4.0 MPH, Pressure: 30.05inHg (1018mb) and holding, Dewpoint: 38°F (3°C), Feels like 42°F (6°C), Visibility: 10Mi (16km), UV index: 1, Sunrise 07:21, Sunset: 16:41, Lunar phase: First quarter [15:21] Tuesday: Overcast 45°F/36°F (7°C/2°C) | Wednesday: Overcast 43°F/35°F (6°C/2°C) | Thursday: Partly Cloudy 45°F/34°F (7°C/1°C) | Friday: Partly Cloudy 42°F/33°F (6°C/1°C) [15:21] The average high for this date is 38°F (3°C), and the record of 46°F (7°C) was set in 2003. The average low is 27°F (-3°C), and the record of 8°F (-13°C) was set in 1997 [15:21] putty mangled that [15:21] so many screwy unicode chars [15:21] What doesn't putty mangle? :P [15:21] well, kitty i guess [15:21] umm [15:21] i dunno. if i find something i'll tell you. [15:22] it's way too damn warm here imo. Bring back my sub-0 temperatures. [15:23] gives a nice excuse to light a fire? [15:23] I just like when it's cold [15:24] i used to too [16:20] *** staticsa1 is now known as staticsafe [16:21] *** brycec is now known as THE_BANANA_KING [16:22] *** THE_BANANA_KING is now known as brycec [18:37] *** toddf has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [18:39] *** toddf has joined #arpnetworks [18:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o toddf [19:40] whats the best dynamic dns service out there these days? Previously I have used no-ip [19:40] now that my IP is no longer sticky [19:40] That's what she said!! [19:40] BryceBot: no, thats what I said [19:40] I just hang off my own domain, either self-hosted DNS, or dns.he.net [19:41] what mechanisim do you use to update the dns automatically? [19:41] periodic curl (which is what most ddns programs use anyways) [19:43] Also some routers can do it automatically (since they're the only device that can detect an IP change without making an external request, generally speaking - and if the app is making an external request, it might as well be the same request as to update the ip) [19:45] not sure if my Mikrotik can do it [21:15] mnathani: you could do a lt2p/ipsec tunnel over it [21:15] and log when it connects from a new ip [21:15] that way you've also got a nice tunnel you can use if you want as well [21:16] actually i wonder if it automatically createws a new connection when ip chagnes [21:17] can't you just log routeros new ppp sessions? [21:17] http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:System/Log [21:18] looks like you should be able to [21:28] jan/27 17:20:30 system,error,critical login failure for user admin from 122.225.109.220 via ssh [21:28] ssh should never have been publicly available [21:28] hmm [21:38] looks like traffic from Toronto on Bell to Toronto / Teksavvy traverses Chicago [21:38] and goes via he.net [21:39] https://gist.github.com/anonymous/fb07f03a00c33fcd2bc7 [21:39] Gist: "Toronto / Bell to Toronto /Teksavvy via Chicago" [22:42] Has anyone else had issues not receiving responses from support@? This isn't a slight against up_the_irons, not at all. Rather, I sent an email from my company account 9 hours and never received the autoresponse, but I just sent an email from my personal account and immediately got an autoresponse. [22:42] (and yes, I did check my spam :p) [22:56] i think there's greylisting bryce. [22:56] dunno if you can check the mail queue [22:56] i kind of wish these things were more transparent [22:57] mnathani: that does look broken [22:58] although it doesn't look like latency is any worse than los angeles to los angeles going via san jose? [22:58] Yeah I have no hands on the exchange server :p But I'd assume 9 hours would be plenty for greylisting to have retried :/ [22:58] * brycec shrugs [22:58] Oh well [22:58] maybe the exchange server doesn't retry. [22:58] hmm i think exchange can be a bit weird about dns too [22:59] oh there's only one dns entry [23:00] there's also ipv6 on email [23:00] it's not that exchange is trying ipv6 and failing or something stupid like that? [23:00] I have no way of knowing [23:00] https://exchangemaster.wordpress.com/2013/07/10/once-again-unchecking-ipv6-on-a-nic-breaks-exchange-2013/ [23:00] not related [23:00] but funny none the less [23:02] wow the post below that is sacry [23:02] apparently gmail was(is?) blocking any emails coming in with ipv6 hostnames in the headers without reverse lookups [23:03] but yeah as as short term solution maybe email from somewhere else? [23:04] but you'd probably have to check the exchange end and have arp check their end to debug what's happening with mail [23:46] mnathani: if you have a mikrotik device, they have their own svc built into the software on some routeros devices [23:46] that's kind of cool [23:46] it's "mynetname" or something [23:48] /ip/cloud in the cli [23:49] err, ip cloud print should show you if your device supports it [23:56] m0unds1: no cloud under my /ip section [23:59] RouterOS v6.5