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hazardous: GOOGLE is quite stupid and intrusive!!! They force HTTPS on thier search engine for MOST BROWSERS.. They force that crap on thier email server WHICH SUCKS because it doesnt work right!!!!! (@ least on my browser (I have to keep refreshing the page or it doesnt load (I HAD SSL DISABLED ON GMAIL (IT doesnt matter anyway,i would not use GOOGLEs email for anything!!! (I DO NOT TRUST THEM
IDIOTS)))))
Remember GOOGLE works with the GOVT,they are just as bad!!!!!!! THEY MAY HAVE CONCOCTED THE WHOLE THING TO MAKE PPL CHANGE THIER SSL SETTINGS AND MAKE THEM THINK THEY ARE NOW SAFE WHEN THEY ARENT!!!!! (You dont know who you are cooperating with)
I DONT BELIEVE ANY OF THIS SSL BS!!!!!!!! -- I THINK ITS STAGED CRAP TO GET PEOPLE LOCKED INTO A MORE EASILY MONITORING ABILITY!! ITS NOT GOOD TO BLINDLY BELIEVE THE BS WHEN THERE IS NO PROOF OF ANYTHING HAPPENING!! (Gives them all the power in the world to further thier agendas,etc)
sorry, wrong window, irssi didn't prompt on rightclick
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m0unds: still good for a chuckle
hazardous: the best part is that that's a WHT post
m0unds: bahaha
NS(SL)A
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brycec: And here I thought hazardous had lost his mind
Glad those weren't your words
m0unds: before i scrolled up to see who sent it to the channel, i figured it was one of those random users who show up in channels to send crazy shit for no reason
brycec: I thought so too before I looked to the side
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mnathani: does anyone know if cacti requires any of these functions: "fsockopen, show_source, system, shell_exec, passthru, exec, popen, proc_open, strrev"
I added them to my disabled function list and now cacti stopped working
brycec: I suspect so, I believe it shells out for some things
Check the error logs
Unless you have php error reporting turned silent, it will bitch when something tries to use a denied function.
mnathani: enabled those functions and now the graphs appear
not sure which one exactly caused it to stop working
brycec: mnathani: Why would you block strrev?
mnathani: just before 22nd of Jan - the graphs go dark
I found some malicious wordpress hack
that used it
with base64 decode / encode
brycec: All it does is reverse a string. In and of itself, it's not malicious
mnathani: I can msg you the code if you care to check it out
brycec: if you've seen one wp hack, you've seen them all
(and I've seen a couple)
That's a lot like blocking "echo" because it's used in wp hack :P
mnathani: Confirmed taht strrev is used in cacti site/lib/snmp.php
Three times
*that
mnathani: s/taht/that
BryceBot: <brycec> mnathani: Confirmed that strrev is used in cacti site/lib/snmp.php
mnathani: ok
brycec: Also popen is used
And proc_open
Man, you hit every one on the head ;p
BryceBot: That's what she said!!
mnathani: those can all be used to attack a system though
brycec: agreed
But they're also used so cacti can call out to rrdtool, perform snmp stuff, etc
mnathani: so there should be massive firewalls infront of a cacti box
brycec: Ehhhh not necessarily
Provided that cacti isn't executing arbitrary code, for instance
(I mean, yeah, practice good firewalling anyways)
But the only times those functions are inherently bad is when they can be used to execute arbitrary commands.
(fwiw, I'm just grep'ing /usr/share/cacti/, and you can too)
grep -Irn strrev /usr/share/cacti/
mercutio: i wonder if there's a way to map used functions to programs when compiling or such
i suppose modules is the difficult part
brycec: Compiling? This is PHP, it's scripted. (unless you meant inside PHP itself)
mercutio: oh right
for some reason i think of php like a normal app :/
brycec: lol
mercutio: but yeah it's not even php frontend
it's php through isn't it?
brycec: I mean, there is an rrd module for PHP that Cacti could (or might even) use assuming it's installed. I'm not digging in further.
Yeah, all of Cacti is written/scripted in PHP
mercutio: well it does use rrdtool
but yeah that's external program
it's also meant to be the main perforamnce issue of cacti
well on larger installs
mnathani: most installs you need to login to do anything
so the attack vector for random internet users is greatly decreased.
zeshoem: I guess I am more concerned with wordpress sites on the same box
which can get compromised using said fuctions
mercutio: use a separate ini file for them
zeshoem: s/fuct/funct
BryceBot: <zeshoem> which can get compromised using said functions
-: zeshoem and mnathani are the same person
mercutio: ahh
zeshoem: also alternate nick treshoem sometimes
mercutio: if you can split off the php config and uid's that's good
zeshoem: I will look into that
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