[00:04] *** technoid_ has joined #arpnetworks [15:00] *** mike-burns has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1) [15:02] *** mike-burns has joined #arpnetworks [15:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mike-burns [15:39] Our new Flickr stream: https://www.flickr.com/photos/130053163@N03/ [15:40] i also don't understand the comment, "Please don't add support for OpenBSD. I prefer to use a more robust provider, arp networks." [15:40] not like DO adding OpenBSD support would prevent anyone from choosing ARP [15:44] up_the_irons: there's a few weirdo's around that discussion. one of them posted on openbsd-misc. [15:44] they're obviously not customer-focused :/ [15:45] those photos are nicely done. [15:46] https://www.flickr.com/photos/130053163@N03/16145574328/ [15:46] although that one makes it look like the rack of servers is going to fall on you [15:47] i swear they are bolted very firmly to the floor [15:47] yeah i'm sure they are :) [15:47] it's just the angle [15:50] do all my repos 404 for you guys too? https://github.com/up_the_irons?tab=repositories [15:51] nah fine for me [15:51] weird [15:52] probably some load balancer [15:52] i find github really fast these days. [15:52] someone had told me it 404s for them [15:52] and it does for me also [15:52] so i imagine they must be doing something fancy at least [15:52] hmm [15:52] i tried a few [15:52] https://github.com/up_the_irons/arpnet-toolbox/blob/master/README.rst [15:52] do files like that show? [15:52] or do you mean when git pulling? [15:53] git clone https://github.com/up_the_irons/arpnet-toolbox.git [15:53] that worked fine for me too [15:54] up_the_irons: These photos look very nice :) I dare say too nice... they look like stock photos. Wonder if there's some way you could "ARP" them up a bit? [15:57] up_the_irons: I tried pulling up arpnet-toolbox and 404'd (even refreshing. I hit some .128 IP). From ARP, it loads fine connecting to some .130 IP. [15:58] (obviously some photos like https://www.flickr.com/photos/130053163@N03/16333156565/ do have little ARP stickers on them, but others don't) [15:59] brycec: it's partially because he has got a good camera. [15:59] most data centre pictures seem to be taken with cellphones etc [15:59] And because they're "artsy" [15:59] well who would want to take bland pictures with a good camera? [15:59] Thought there were some duplicate uploads too, but further investigation revealed they were just very similar angles [15:59] And what's with these 2013 dates - let's get updated ones :) [16:00] i want to ssee older ones myself :/ [16:00] i like to see evolution [16:00] heh [16:01] For now mercutio you'll have to look at the old stuff https://www.flickr.com/photos/51184165@N00/ :p [16:01] (some far more interesting server pics in those too) [16:01] brycec: thanks. i had thought they might look stock. not sure what to do. they were taken by a professional photographer. way better than what i could do myself. [16:08] up_the_irons: i think it's kind of getting expected these days to look good [16:09] as long as there aren't stupid annoying logos on the front page advertising hp and so on i'm happy [16:09] https://www.flickr.com/photos/51184165@N00/8544267863/ [16:09] although including something like that oculd be nice [16:11] (Nope, just a couple stupid logos pimping SuperMicro :P) [16:12] the websites with the stock smiling people are the worst [16:12] hahaha [16:12] yeh i never seem to see supermicro logos around [16:14] this: http://creationaura.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/when-you-need-a-VPS-Hosting-and-things-to-consider-before-choosing-a-VPS-Hosting-1.jpg [16:14] please no [16:14] ahahahahah [16:14] at least he's not weeping openly [16:14] :P [16:15] liquidweb used to have awful stock photos of their employees "doing things" [16:15] oh look, they still do [16:15] haha [16:17] when i was chosing network hsots i was testing network performance first. [16:17] yeah that's a pretty bad picture [16:18] oh is this about arp's new web site? [16:20] atm it's a bit weird how you click on vps and it shows the #arpnetworks on freenode part, but the page is mostly the same as front page. [16:30] mercutio: yeah the new website is totally different. it actually has a "front" page, different from vps page [16:30] sweet. [16:31] our _real_ people doing work: https://www.flickr.com/photos/51184165@N00/8538575234/ [16:31] Cool! [16:31] think i'm gonna need to copy some photos from my personal stream and add them to new ARP stream [16:33] https://www.flickr.com/photos/51184165@N00/4736981080/in/photostream/ [16:33] why yes, i found a *10* Mbps fiber run [16:33] Hah. [16:34] BOTH 10 Mbps fiber AND copper. [16:34] yup [16:34] That's impressive. [16:34] dinosaur photos [16:35] i was testing fibre vs copper latency at gigabit [16:36] the difference seemed very minor [16:36] i seem to remember people saying that fibre has less latency. [16:42] for short runs, it probably doesn't matter [16:42] for runs where you _must_ use fiber, then obviously it would matter :) [16:42] heh i have 2 metre direct-attach cable too. but that's not long enough to get to my test host :( [16:43] it seems data centre stuff is tending towards sfp+ [16:44] but it's much less convenient than cat6 [16:46] i won't use fiber for short runs unless i have to, there's simply no advantage [16:46] that's what direct-attach is meant to fix [16:46] i you have sfp+ switches [16:46] if [16:46] i c [17:55] hello [17:55] oh wrong channel [17:55] well hello anyway :) [17:57] *** vissborg has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [17:57] *** treshoem has joined #arpnetworks [17:58] *** mjp_ has joined #arpnetworks [18:06] *** pcn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [18:06] *** mjp has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [18:06] *** zeshoem has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [18:07] *** pcn has joined #arpnetworks [18:07] mkb: it's never the wrong channel to say hello [18:08] *** vissborg has joined #arpnetworks [18:19] ^++ [18:46] which datacenters do the kvr hosts live in? One Wilshire, Wilshire Annex or 600 W. 7th St. [18:52] Annex [18:53] now they call it CoreSite [19:03] so windows 10 is going free. next you know windows may go open source :/ [19:04] yeah, I'm going to upgrade all of my windows computers to windows 10 right away... yup, all of 'em. [19:04] do you have any? [19:05] windows 10 isn't actually too bad as far as microsoft operating systems go [19:05] (all 0 of 'em :-P ) [19:05] heh [19:49] how do I get a pastebin to wrap code? [19:53] has it still got those tiles? [19:58] you mean the ones you rarely ever have to see? [20:00] I haven't used it, but the people I know who have complain about the tiles a lot [20:01] if you're a user who has to click icons and can't use a keyboard, then i suppose it could be offensive if you hate colors or something [20:02] if you can hit windows key then type the first two letters of whatever app you want, you won't have to see them [20:02] you can also pin commonly used stuff to the taskbar ala osx or win7 and won't have to see tiles ther eeither [20:02] no this is someone who'd rather have cd, ls, etc. than Windows Explorer [20:02] okay, then why use windows? [20:02] that's what I ask him [20:02] haha [20:03] that's absurdly silly [20:03] oh well [20:51] *** _Zodiac_ has joined #arpnetworks [21:16] *** _Zodiac_ has left [21:24] mkb: tiles are much less prmimnent [21:24] i kind of find it funny to see people trying to use cygwin on windows [21:30] "trying to use" is there something I'm unaware of? last I tried a few weeks ago, it Just Worked(tm) [21:31] well it doesn't really give you a proper unix experience [22:16] *** meingtsla has left [22:17] *** meingtsla has joined #arpnetworks [22:57] does it provide a "unix enough" experience? that's all i ever needed from it [23:38] I should say so. I found it akin to having an xterm (or whatever) [23:40] i found a virtual machine worked a lot better, all the X stuff didn't work very well [23:40] and all the command line stuff was really really slow [23:41] it may be better now