mkb: mercutio, maybe telnet protocol is dead but it's useful for seeing if a server accepts connections on port X mhoran: s/removing.*/moving everything useful from their OSes into systemd/ BryceBot: <mkb> in the interests of minimalism the Linux people have been moving everything useful from their OSes into systemd mkb: s/minimalism/dubious minimalism (at best)/ BryceBot: <mkb> in the interests of dubious minimalism (at best) the Linux people have been removing practically everything useful from their OSes brycec: I would argue that it's less about minimalism and more of not encouraging bad practices. Even Windows/MSFT removed telnet from their "base" install. mike-burns: telnetd
Did they also remove telnet, the client? ***: lystra has left "Leaving" technoid_: I still use telnet to test that services are answering brycec: I use netcat, or nmap. technoid_: I am old, change is hard m0unds: telnet is part of the base system in centos 7
at least it was on mine
telnet.x86_64 1:0.17-59.el7 @base mnathani: m0unds: yum install telnet installs it, but it was not installed by default mkb: They don't have nc on Fedora either. And nc doesn't send rn, which testing a lot of services require
Though now a lot of that might need openssl s_client and that leaves a lot to be desired too ***: technoid_ has quit IRC (Quit: (null)) brycec: "nc doesn't send" This statement is factually incorrect. mkb: my nc doens't send rn unless I type ^M at the end of each line brycec: Ohhh I misinterpreted what you said
thought my IRC client was just flaking out with the rn mkb: ah. and there's one of them that requires the rn ***: technoid_ has joined #arpnetworks m0unds: mnathani: i figured it wasn't in yours, i was just noting it was installed by default in the base system on my install of centos 7 (@base)
which was installed from media with just the base system selected (all other stuff was added later by me using yum) mnathani: mine was a net install, I think I picked infrastructure server m0unds: ah, that could do it
i hadn't used centos in years so i figured i'd try out 7 mnathani: are you familiar with / do you use: nc (or netcat) utility m0unds: sorry, had to get coffee - i've only used it for basic stuff brycec: nc is pretty easy/simple stuff. socat on the other hand... m0unds: i used it mostly for debugging issues w/telemetry from recording gear at my old job
it was supposed to be sending certain strings of data on a port to a supervisor server, and we got a replacement LSI card w/different BIOS on it that formatted the output of a command differently than other stuff
oh, and for debugging serial over network crap too
yuck brycec: It's fun stuff
I'm currently using socat to forward/bounce telnet connections m0unds: neat brycec: Got so tired of port-scanners hitting port 23 that I now "forward" those connections to the ascii star wars
server.
(telnet vps3.cobryce.com) m0unds: ahahaha brycec: socat -lm -d -d -6 -U TCP-LISTEN:23,fork TCP:towel.blinkenlights.nl:23 m0unds: too funny -: brycec bows mercutio: hahha
i thought this had colour brycec: heh
I guess it all depends if you've licked any stamps lately :P ***: dj_goku has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)
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dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks brycec: "Please don't add support for OpenBSD. I prefer to use a more robust provider, arp networks." Please don't add support for OpenBSD. I prefer to use a more robust provider, arp networks.
http://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digitalocean/suggestions/6963821-support-openbsd
(flubbed the copy/paste)
The Internet confuses me... staticsafe: dat logic
wat mhoran: Wat. mercutio: why are you reading do forums? brycec: Maybe that was secretly up_the_irons
In my defense, mercutio, it was linked to me by another channel mercutio: i imagine he'd use some capitals for arp
"Openbsd for me too. It feels the safest environment for me as a home user. Totally given up Linux now.
such quality on there BryceBot: That's what she said!! mercutio: http://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digitalocean/suggestions/5812390-keep-arch-linux-on-digitalocean
arch is pretty easy to install from iso
i wonder if this idea of shifting to templates is getting in the way staticsafe: ain't nobody got time to manually install from an ISO
templates++ mercutio: arch users do :/
well arch tends to be wehre people wnat to have options
a lot of people wanted them to keep arch around
and they're deprecating it
i wonder if arp supports arch
"Arch is my go-to. I'm upvoting this ticket and also the ticket to allow custom ISOs, to allow me to use Arch. Please?" brycec: It certainly does insomuch as you can install your own ISO :p mercutio: so they don't actually support iso on digitalocean staticsafe: nope -: mkb doesn't understand this digital ocean fad mkb: all I ever hear about them is people trying to petition them for some other OS
I go find someone who will let me install whatever OS I want mercutio: exactly.
that said, arp wasn't the first place i've had openbsd
but in the past i'd had to do iso install ***: technoid_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
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