in the interests of minimalism the Linux people have been removing practically everything useful from their OSes
mercutio, maybe telnet protocol is dead but it's useful for seeing if a server accepts connections on port X
s/removing.*/moving everything useful from their OSes into systemd/
<mkb> in the interests of minimalism the Linux people have been moving everything useful from their OSes into systemd
s/minimalism/dubious minimalism (at best)/
<mkb> in the interests of dubious minimalism (at best) the Linux people have been removing practically everything useful from their OSes
I would argue that it's less about minimalism and more of not encouraging bad practices. Even Windows/MSFT removed telnet from their "base" install.
telnetd
Did they also remove telnet, the client?
I still use telnet to test that services are answering
I use netcat, or nmap.
I am old, change is hard
telnet is part of the base system in centos 7
at least it was on mine
telnet.x86_64 1:0.17-59.el7 @base
m0unds: yum install telnet installs it, but it was not installed by default
They don't have nc on Fedora either. And nc doesn't send \r\n, which testing a lot of services require
Though now a lot of that might need openssl s_client and that leaves a lot to be desired too
"nc doesn't send" This statement is factually incorrect.
my nc doens't send \r\n unless I type ^M at the end of each line
Ohhh I misinterpreted what you said
thought my IRC client was just flaking out with the \r\n
ah. and there's one of them that requires the \r\n
mnathani: i figured it wasn't in yours, i was just noting it was installed by default in the base system on my install of centos 7 (@base)
which was installed from media with just the base system selected (all other stuff was added later by me using yum)
mine was a net install, I think I picked infrastructure server
ah, that could do it
i hadn't used centos in years so i figured i'd try out 7
are you familiar with / do you use: nc (or netcat) utility
sorry, had to get coffee - i've only used it for basic stuff
nc is pretty easy/simple stuff. socat on the other hand...
i used it mostly for debugging issues w/telemetry from recording gear at my old job
it was supposed to be sending certain strings of data on a port to a supervisor server, and we got a replacement LSI card w/different BIOS on it that formatted the output of a command differently than other stuff
oh, and for debugging serial over network crap too
yuck
It's fun stuff
I'm currently using socat to forward/bounce telnet connections
neat
Got so tired of port-scanners hitting port 23 that I now "forward" those connections to the ascii star wars
server.
(telnet vps3.cobryce.com)
ahahaha
socat -lm -d -d -6 -U TCP-LISTEN:23,fork TCP:towel.blinkenlights.nl:23
too funny
hahha
i thought this had colour
heh
I guess it all depends if you've licked any stamps lately :P
"Please don't add support for OpenBSD. I prefer to use a more robust provider, arp networks." Please don't add support for OpenBSD. I prefer to use a more robust provider, arp networks.
http://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digitalocean/suggestions/6963821-support-openbsd
(flubbed the copy/paste)
The Internet confuses me...
dat logic
wat
Wat.
why are you reading do forums?
Maybe that was secretly up_the_irons
In my defense, mercutio, it was linked to me by another channel
i imagine he'd use some capitals for arp
"Openbsd for me too. It feels the safest environment for me as a home user. Totally given up Linux now.
such quality on there
That's what she said!!
http://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digitalocean/suggestions/5812390-keep-arch-linux-on-digitalocean
arch is pretty easy to install from iso
i wonder if this idea of shifting to templates is getting in the way
ain't nobody got time to manually install from an ISO
templates++
arch users do :/
well arch tends to be wehre people wnat to have options
a lot of people wanted them to keep arch around
and they're deprecating it
i wonder if arp supports arch
"Arch is my go-to. I'm upvoting this ticket and also the ticket to allow custom ISOs, to allow me to use Arch. Please?"
It certainly does insomuch as you can install your own ISO :p
so they don't actually support iso on digitalocean
nope
all I ever hear about them is people trying to petition them for some other OS
I go find someone who will let me install whatever OS I want
exactly.
that said, arp wasn't the first place i've had openbsd
but in the past i'd had to do iso install