you're not swapping to zfs or anything silly are you? are you using zfs? and they return :) nope, no zfs I don't think I should be running out of swap either. does it get into swap much?> hmm but I could be... maybe I should set up monitoring on swap usage. i'm seeing something from 2013 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2013-September/006483.html\ oops didn't mean to add the \ but that's far enough back that you shouldn't have that issue afaik hm Okay. I added swap monitoring to my nagios config. Warn at 50% free and critical at 33% free, we'll see how that goes. ok i mean it was up for 21 days without panicking. i hate panics :) Also I don't like how it said it would reboot in 15 seconds, then it said "press any key to reboot" lol. oh what so you had to press a key there should be sysctl to fix that did it automatically reboot or not? i think that just speeds up the reboot you need a kernel debugger to do much more nope it did not automatically reboot i had to press a key weird