#arpnetworks 2015-01-11,Sun

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m0undshttps://github.com/twitter/AnomalyDetection
kinda cool
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merc2weechat has a new version [17:35]
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up_the_ironsthat was an interesting read by stallman on uber [18:15]
mhoran"Beware of thinking of Uber as one more option in addition to real taxis. At the moment, that's true, but if Uber is a big success, real taxis could disappear.
Is probably what concerns me the most.
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mercutiowhenever i see taxi's on tv they look much more compelling than my own experience of them. [18:28]
mhoranEven though I live in NYC, with a massive number of hailable cabs, it's not so easy to hail a cab in Brooklyn. Or when I need to get to the airport. Uber is good for that. [18:28]
mercutiohere you can ring up a phone number and a taxi will come to you in 10 to 30 minutes. [18:28]
mhoranBut I would imagine Stallman would agree with me in that, if Uber were not building a walled garden, but instead an open platform for hailing cabs, all would be much better. [18:28]
mercutiobut sometimes you ring up 10 minutes later when they say it's close to you, asking why it hasn't come, and it's somehow got lost in their system. [18:29]
mhoranTaxis in NYC would be able to buy in because of the regulation in Albany.
And anyone could build an app to hail taxis, on top of the platform.
The fact that Uber is a closed platform really means everybody loses.
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mercutioi think the biggest problem with taxi's at least here is that they're mostly foreign drivers, often not having much local knowledge of areas etc.
especially if you get taxi's at night etc, and other times most people don't want to work.
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mhoranIn NYC they're required to pass a knowledge test. Well, yellow cabs. But not UberX/green cabs in the outer boroughs. Which sucks.
But if you get a cab in Manhattan, they know where they're going. If they'll bring you to Brooklyn (which they're required to do, but will turn you down.)
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mkbail [18:30]
mercutiowell often taxi drivers will turn down short trips. [18:31]
JC_Dentonthe problem with taxis is it's a 50-50 chance that they'll actually show up on-time, if at all, when you call [18:31]
mercutioas it can lose them longer trips.
especially at places like airports.
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JC_Dentonthey get shitty with how long or short your trip is [18:31]
mercutiowhere they all have to queue up. [18:31]
JC_Dentonand they rig their meters [18:31]
mercutioso they queue at the taxi stand for hours :)
adn then someone wants a 10 minute trip
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JC_Dentonbut that's been my experience with Baltimore, SF, and Boston taxis
never actually used an NYC cab
oh, and the one thing that irks the bejeebus out of me is that most of them don't take cards and will gladly charge you extra to make an ATM run - especially in the day in age when Square mobile payments is/are a thing
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mhoranThat is definitely a benefit of Uber.
I love not having to deal with payment after the fact.
Though, I can't choose not to tip a terrible driver.
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m0undspublic transit isn't much of a thing here in NM [18:33]
JC_Dentonm0unds: what part? [18:35]
m0undsi'm in albuquerque, but that's sort of the case throughout the state [18:36]
JC_Dentonyeah, abq transit sucks
it's getting better with stuff like rail runner
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m0undsrail runner only runs limited routes now
and only certain days
and it blows if you commute to/from santa fe or abq and need to get back in the middle of the day or something
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JC_Dentonyeah, no middle of day transit sucks
it's like they assume no one ever has to leave early or has an emergency
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m0undswell, they have hardly any riders anyway
which is why they reduced the number of scheduled trains
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JC_Dentonah, shame that they reduced it [18:38]
m0undsonce you get to your destination, public transit is limited and expensive anyway, so unless you're going somewhere close to where you get off the train, you're gonna be out lots of cash
or if you have tons of time to kill you can ride a bus and hope a route takes you near where you want to go, haha
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JC_Dentoni like that a lot of cities are getting employers to provide transit benefits [18:39]
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up_the_ironsmhoran: "if Uber is a big success, real taxis could disappear.", yup you're right, that is what concerns me the most too [19:32]
CaZeWhy? [19:35]
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mercutioi don't think taxi's will disappear. [20:05]
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brycecDitto
I really like the service Uber provides, but as a company they worry me. Very cut-throat practices within and with competitors.
So as much as I like Uber, I'm not a fan of giving them $.
However, they are shaking things up and forcing, at least in some places, the local taxi companies to step up their own game.
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CaZeI wonder how a medallion price crash will affect the industry. [20:43]
mercutioi've never used uber myself. [20:45]
BryceBotThat's what she said!! [20:45]
mercutioand the last time i was in a taxi it was off the meter :/ [20:45]
CaZeMe neither. [20:45]
mercutiobut it was a good deal.
i wonder how common it is when picking up taxi's places for them to turn the meter off
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CaZetaxi's places? [20:47]
mercutioyeah like if you pick oen up off the street
and you want to go somewhere, and they give you a fixed price offer
or you give them one
so like it may normally cost $80 but they do it for $60 off the meter.
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CaZeThat's usually only for special destinations.
Like the airport or something.
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mercutiothat was the last time i was drunk in the city heh
and there was a group of us.
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CaZeWell the cap operator has to make back his lease.
*cab
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mercutio(change of subject) there seems to be a lot of new 802.11ac development
it was stagnating at 300 megabit for ages, but now there's heaps of improvementss.
i think it's 2.6 gigabit that's coming soon
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brycec.11ac speeds are based on the number of links (channels, antennas)
150mbps/ea
(iirc)
(Ah, and also depending upon encoding modes and the like)
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mercutioyeah
i get about 300 to 400 megabit next to the router.
with 866 megabit link rate.
so 2.6 gigabit link rate may give gigabit speeds.
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