[06:22] *** milki_ has joined #arpnetworks [06:22] *** milki has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [06:38] *** charlisez has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [07:37] *** Guest55180 is now known as jpalmer [07:37] *** jpalmer has quit IRC (Changing host) [07:37] *** jpalmer has joined #arpnetworks [07:54] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [08:28] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Quit: ziyourenxiang) [09:16] *** jpalmer has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2) [09:16] *** jpalmer has joined #arpnetworks [09:16] *** jpalmer has quit IRC (Changing host) [09:16] *** jpalmer has joined #arpnetworks [12:32] *** abthorpet has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [12:43] *** hive-mind has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [12:50] *** tabthorpe has joined #arpnetworks [14:52] *** RandalSchwartz has joined #arpnetworks [14:52] *** RandalSchwartz has quit IRC (Changing host) [14:52] *** RandalSchwartz has joined #arpnetworks [14:55] woo, chill week [14:55] (if someone orders 15 servers, i will kick them) [14:55] heh [14:56] But you'll still go ahead with the order, right? :P [14:56] haha [14:56] no comment [15:13] do you have 15 servers spare? :) [15:14] i imagine it's pretty hard to get more stuff now [15:17] I figured up_the_irons meant VPS in which case, I'm sure there's room for at least 1 on most host machines. [15:18] oh server makes me think dedicated :) [15:18] i think vps for vps :) [15:18] Me too, if this weren't #arpnetworks ... [15:18] i think dedicated server sales have been going up [15:19] I'm still waiting for up_the_irons to match AWS pricing, $7300/mo :D [15:22] well you still have to pay the hosting prices on top of that i think [15:23] mm 15 dedicated would be much more annoying than 15 vps's too [15:28] this is the time of year i like to get vps's generally :) [15:29] my arp vps was jan 2011 [15:29] oh wow that's over 3 years ago now [15:37] (My bad, the cheapest "dedicated" EC2 instance is only $1474/mo.) [15:39] may as well just buy dual cpu e5 with lots of ram [15:39] and do your own setup [15:39] is what comes to my mind :) [15:42] I think I've been here since nov 21 2009, based on the date of /media [15:42] nice [15:42] i was checking out arp's old web pages. [15:42] i much prefer the current layout :) [15:42] which is like it's been since mid 2011 it seems [17:46] brycec: LOL [17:46] mercutio: wait until you see the new website. should launch in Jan [17:48] brycec: I'll gladly match AWS pricing, just submit an order and I'll do special pricing ;) [17:48] i did in fact mean 15 VMs [17:48] actually i wouldn't mind doing 15 dedi's [17:48] cuz the revenue is much higher (= exciting) [17:48] "I like money." [17:48] hahahahah [17:49] well played [17:49] (one of my most often-used Idiocracy quotes) [18:00] hmm i thought it said the irc channel on the front page [18:01] oh it does if you click vps [18:01] which nearly looks the same [18:01] And ONLY that page, interesting [18:01] heh [18:02] i don't think that has got us many visitors in here though [18:02] i dunno where i found out about it [18:02] from a friend, in my case [18:03] i think i came and went and came back again when there was some network issue and then stuck around. [18:05] I came in here after seeing it and commented that I liked to see the pound sign used for something other than a hashtag. [18:06] i like lattes [18:08] it shows as a pound? [18:08] it shows as a hash for me [18:09] up_the_irons: Any thoughts on that IPv6 throughput issue I reported? Still seeing that -- SCP showing ~20 min to download 100.bin vs < 1 minute over IPv4. [18:52] i blame staticsafe for me being here [18:53] o_o [18:53] mercutio, those are called pound signs too [18:53] staticsafe: you told me about arp + irc ch [18:55] mkb: oh i didn't realise that, i knew that uk keyboards used a pound key on shift-3, and quote on shift-2 [18:55] when i've tried using uk layout, i'm always left wondering where @ is :) [18:56] maybe it's near where " is [18:56] heh. no I'm in US. but apparently pound sign is a US thing and the pound sterling sign has been in the same spot as # in some encodings [18:57] for some weird reason i've been stuck in a wrong layout in the past [18:57] so can't just look at keyboard. [18:57] http://www.bristol.ac.uk/it-services/learning/documentation/keyboard-1/keyboard-r1-6.gif [18:57] this just olooks weird :) [18:58] the weirdest bit is \ actually [18:58] oh yeah. wrong sized enter key [18:58] i use dvorak often, i'm used to weird layouts :) [18:59] I've used Sun keyboards with ESC where ` is, BS where \ is, and \ and ` where BS is on the usual US qwerty layout [19:00] i've used XT layout, that has a low escape key too [19:00] http://www.pcguide.com/ref/kb/layout/z_011261xt.jpg [19:00] oh interesting \ is somewhere weird too [19:00] https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19683-01/806-6642/images/BR.unix.tif.gif [19:00] my xt layout memory is slightly different [19:01] i actually like the idea of having extra function keys on the left. haven't seen any good keyboards with them though [19:01] i want single keypress virtual desktop swapping, but need more keys for it. [19:01] hmm, i suppose i could get an extra numeric keypad. [19:02] we've got some mainframe keyboard at work with 36 F keys [19:02] actually i should just remap numeric keypa.d [19:02] model m style too [19:02] oh i've seen keyboards like that. [19:02] i've also seen ones with cut/copy/paste etc somewhere else [19:02] like more where ins/home/etc is [19:03] cut/copy/paste actually work ootb in X. [19:03] the rest must require CDE [19:03] http://www.lemis.com/grog/Photos/20120509/big/Keyboard-3.jpeg [19:03] this looks fine [19:03] err [19:03] it is uk layout [19:03] yeah [19:04] i love having volume single key press [19:04] i have mute down/up on this keyboard, and a calculator button [19:04] calculator button is useless, i suppose i could remap it [19:04] model m here, so nothing like that [19:04] i'm using ducky zero [19:04] http://www.duckychannel.com.tw/en/ZERO_DK2108.html [19:05] cherry mx red [19:05] probably why i typo so much, so light :) [19:06] i haven't used model m in ages. [19:43] tracerouting around... i came across "ae-3.r03.londen05.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net" can anyone spot the typo? :P [19:45] that's a CLLI [19:45] London, England [19:45] CLLI? [19:45] lsanca == Los Angeles, California [19:45] Common Language Location Identifier [19:45] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLLI_code [19:45] CLLI code :: CLLI code (sometimes referred to as COMMON LANGUAGE Location Identifier Code and often pronounced as silly) is a Common Language Information Services identifier used within the North American telecommunications industry to specify the location and function of telecommunications equipment or of a relevant location such as an international border or a supporting equipment location, like a manhole or pole. Originally, they... [19:46] did londen mean london, england, then? [19:46] that's the only thing i can think of [19:46] yea. the first four characters are for the city, the second two are for the province/state [19:47] ahh [19:47] thanks guys [21:05] clli *is* silly [21:05] the airport codes seems to make the most sense to me [21:05] and if wanting to be more specific may as well just use full city name [21:06] i wonder what facebook uses [21:06] like "frc" [21:06] which is some city [21:07] some city near virginia iirc, so not freemont city or something [21:18] frc is forrest city [21:20] * mus1cb0x prefers airport codes too [21:20] "but some cities don't have airports!" [21:20] i guess clli gives more info [21:20] they're not usually internet hubs either :) [21:20] yea that's true, but i go with "nearest city" [21:20] er, nearest airport [21:20] clli is good for telecoms like Verizon who have presences they need to identify everywhere [21:20] good point [21:21] true [23:17] *** milki_ is now known as milki [23:39] mhoran: did you send in a support ticket about it? I didn't see it if you did