plett: The first thing I noticed about it is that just setting "console=ttyS0" in the grub boot loader is enough for it to do everything right and start a getty on that tty, which saved me having to do it mercutio: plett: does "systemd-analyze blame" work ?
it doesn't in ubuntu, as ubuntu has only started shifting to it slowly.
that's pretty cool about the console thing
(i have ubuntu vivid on some systems, the in development ubuntu) plett: I had no idea that command even existed, I'll find out :)
mercutio: Yes, it appears to work. The two slowest things on my system are;
2.252s networking.service
1.094s exim4.service mercutio: coo.
cool even
yeah i like that plett: But speeding up boot times has never been that important to me, I hardly ever find myself needing to wait while watching a machine boot mercutio: it's good when something takes a really long time but yeah it doesn't usually matter for low times.
i wish servers wouldn't boot through their bios so slow
oh there's a way to show how much is bios and user space etc
oh just remove blame
Startup finished in 2.173s (firmware) + 5.558s (loader) + 1.947s (kernel) + 12.413s (userspace) = 22.092s
Startup finished in 3.435s (firmware) + 5.339s (loader) + 2.986s (kernel) + 11.376s (userspace) = 23.138s
first is hard-disk system, second is ssd system
the hard-disk system is winning hah plett: Startup finished in 1.449s (kernel) + 7.186s (userspace) = 8.635s mercutio: my network starts slow for some reaosn plett: DHCP? That's the usual reason mercutio: i wonder why it doesn't show your bios.
no dhcp
infiniband + ethernet
it waits for link state.
but it's not slow enough to bug me.
i use static ip's plett: Mine is a KVM guest, maybe it needs some hardware counter to measure bios and loader times which mine doesn't have
Or maybe Debian haven't built that yet :) mercutio: oh this is hardware plett: I've got a couple of old Asus Eee netbooks, I was going to try Debian Jessie on one of those too mercutio: i haven't got any arch linux vm's atm mike-burns: Jessie has systemd now. Just a headsup.
Oh that's how this conversation started. up_the_irons: ugh, systemd mike-burns: It's a good excuse to move more things to BSD.
Though, of course, the Ubuntu base underneath all of us has been solid. up_the_irons: yeah m0unds: huh, systemd-analyze is handy mike-burns: It's just going to say the networking script is the slowest, every time. m0unds: mine's showing POS networkmanager by 150-200ms brycec: Anybody else seeing some poor ipv6 HE-Level3 connectivity? Was trying to download updates and every mirror my system tried was capping at 400KB/s or so. (and since it tries ipv6 first...)
(I haven't done any sort of thorough investigation yet, just a couple of mtr's.)
Seems like it may just be me. From another location's HE tunnel, same POP, 99% identical route, it's fine. There's one L3 host in the path that differs, but I don't have a 3rd HE tunnel to rule that out.
(If anyone cares, mtr http://sprunge.us/TTPR) mercutio: brycec: that's tunnelling?
it's probably just the tunnel brycec: How so? mercutio: like he.net tunnel? brycec: Yes mercutio: from level 3
the tunnel server may be getting abused or something brycec: Except I have two tunnels on that same POP (tunnel server) mercutio: maybe load balanced brycec: They're not mercutio: hmm
that mtr doesn't show loss
but only 10 pings brycec: That mtr was just a -r (report) mercutio: --report-cycles=500 ?
will do 500 pings brycec: Doubtful that it would provide anything useful. The issue is persistent, I should see constant packet loss, no need for a wide window. mercutio: even 0.5% packet loss can show as 400k/sec download speeds. ***: bitslip_ has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: appareltny openbsd has some bug with virtio devices in 5.5 and 5.6 -: mercutio hasn't hit any issues brycec: (except with spelling ;P) mercutio: heh
it's more the typing :) ***: raptelan has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)
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content looks to be the same, it's just confusing.
says 7th of august when it came out 1st november BryceBot: That's what she said!! mercutio: oh wow ftp5 says the same thing
maybe it's openbsd's fault :)
other servers seem to update the parent directory time at least. brycec: Twist: ftp5 mirrors from ARP! (j/k) mercutio: heh
they really shoudl touch the dates
even if they press cd's from older files
http://www.rhaalovely.net/up2date.html
this is kind of cool BryceBot: That's what she said!! brycec: lol @ the timezones mercutio: the timezone thing is annoying -: brycec blames the Dutch mercutio: i've hit really really outdated mirrors before brycec: @openbsd amd64 BryceBot: amd64 -> snapshots: Wed Dec 10 2014 11:59:55 GMT-0800 (PST), packages: Sat Dec 06 2014 04:43:44 GMT-0800 (PST) brycec: ^ Pulls from ftp.openbsd.org mercutio: like a year plus :) brycec: (well, periodically polls. The pull is not "live") mercutio: i'm using snapshot on arp
i just updated it brycec: BryceBot announces new OpenBSD snapshots for another IRC channel. mercutio: but i was also updating another box to 5.6
it seems faster
i think ssh or tcp or something must have changed
cos it's like a slow old server, adn it seems faster than faster servers
i think it's openssh brycec: Perhaps it's defaulting to faster ciphers mkb: mercutio, I've had my networking fail and say buffer full or something like that whenever I try to write out on a socket
I guess that's not a hang like the errata says though mercutio: brycec: yeh i think so, it's faster with ssh than dropbear to connect now
mkb: sounds nasty. BryceBot: That's what she said!! mercutio: at least they informed about it
openbsd really needs binary updates.
err would be good with
they're classing themselves as a research OS now brycec: mtier.org for binary updates
Specifically http://www.mtier.org/solutions/apps/openup/ mercutio: i did not know about that brycec: And now you do, hooray! mercutio: thanks brycec brycec: np mercutio: was it on undeadly? brycec: I have no idea mercutio: i read undeadly a bit and occassionally check out the mailing list.
mailing list has so much volume though mkb: mtier the company has definitely been featured brycec: I know about it from fellow OpenBSD sysadmins and developers mercutio: ahh
it doesn't like me having http_proxy set
https_proxy isn't set mkb: http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20110420080633 mercutio: oh that was ages ago hah
undeadly's search is broken it seems
you used google? mkb: yes mercutio: http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20130509120042
it was mentioned more recently mkb: that's them using it as a desktop (complete with screenshots) mercutio: i used openbsd on desktop for a while
it worked pertty well
it was a while ago when video drivers were more open source friendly mkb: I still do
we have KMS now, at least if it's not nvidia mercutio: i haven't tried openbsd on desktop in a while
maybe i should
linux's open source radeon support is really bugging me.
i can't expect openbsd to be any better, but intel onboard was much better :) mkb: firefox is slow
I don't know if that's OpenBSD, my computer, or Firefox... mercutio: i've never seen firefox be particularly fast.
i've seen it scrolling at various speeds, but seems to have random pauses
i was using opera on openbsd
the freebsd version
i don't think that even exists anymore mkb: Iwant Firefox because I'm able to give it all the right settings w.r.t. cookies and such. mercutio: ahh i've never worried about that ***: brycec is now known as travisCI
travisCI is now known as brycec m0unds: mercutio: new opera is just chromium + opera features now mercutio: i think they dropped freebsd though? m0unds: probably mercutio: and it's still closed source isn't it? m0unds: yep, that doesn't bother me in the slightest
i liked it years ago when they were the first to do a lot of stuff, ahead of other browsers
lots of cool functionality mercutio: yeah
i liked it except it kept crashing a lot
but it would show the pages before the crash when you resarted it
so i kind of just put up with it :) BryceBot: That's what she said!! DaCa: mkb, m0unds: have you tried xombrero? mkb: I have
what I like is Firefox's profiles
I have one that I normally use that has cookies, javascript, etc. off
and another that I use if I need to that has it all on, but has remove on close set to true ***: medum has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
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I think I found: /var/lib/libvirt/images mercutio: i would use /iso
or /xeniso
to my mind it's easier just having top level paths mnathani: I get the following error: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a0f1e4e78dab4ac64d65 BryceBot: Gist: "https://gist.github.com/a0f1e4e78dab4ac64d65" mnathani: my first time creating a Xen VM mercutio: eww libvirt mnathani: using virt-manager remotely from a CentOs 7 VM
host is Ubuntu mercutio: yeah i just xl
it sounds like a key issue
try sshing in with the key and adding it to the file first?
maybe it's prompting or osmething mnathani: would it make sense to install a gui on the host and create the VM locally? mercutio: xl isn't that hard
and doesn't require gui mnathani: looking into that now mercutio: libvirt i find harder to read BryceBot: That's what she said!! mnathani: BryceBot: no BryceBot: Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'libvirt i find harder to read' mercutio: but can work with kvm and xen
http://xen.1045712.n5.nabble.com/xen-unstable-xl-add-some-example-configuration-files-td4956691.html mnathani: how do you view the actualdisplay? mercutio: i was finding it hard to find examples
i just use normal console
you can type xl console and it does a serial type console
like xl console virtualmachinename mnathani: what if the guest has a gui? mercutio: you can esacpe it with ctrl-]
oh gui?
i only do unix :)
on virtual machines. mnathani: like a windows VM for example mercutio: you can set it up with vnc
you do vnc=1
and you can tell it a port number
you can also do sdl=1 for local stuff
there'll be something for that new fancy one too, but generally speaking i've just used vnc then used remote desktop once it's there
you can then either run vncviewer with remote X forwarding, or tunnel a port via ssh
or listen on a private network mnathani: this seems a bit complex for me mercutio: what part? mnathani: I like click - click gui configs mercutio: windows? :) mnathani: like virt-manager
and vmware esxi mercutio: virtualbox is good for desktop usage like that
ok well your virt-manager thing is probably about the ssh key thing
you can probably ssh forward X virt-manager from a remote server and run it locally
or you can figure out why ssh is showing that stuff and fix it
so ssh'ing in manually should let you do the accept on the key mnathani: does virt-manager have to be installed on the host even though I am using it remotely over ssh
I am actually running virt-manager on has it installed and is connecting to the host via ssh mercutio: yeah i know
that's why i said you have to ssh in manually
it's showing a ssh generic thing
which suggests you haven't accepted the remote key
as the user virt-manager ssh's in as
so it's added to host keys or whatever mnathani: ssh did not prompt to accept a key
not sure what user the virt-manager is using the ssh
should just be root mercutio: just see what ps says? ***: kevr has quit IRC (*.net *.split)
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