Fastmail.
zoho is the only one i know of who lets you bring your own domain and doesn't charge
how do they make moeny?
from people paying them?
they don't allow unlimited users or storage or anything on free plans
it's like 5 users w/max 5gb of storage each or something
no domain aliases, etc
they also have a full suite of CRM webapps and whatnot
They were the big "online Office suite" before Google usurped that title
(and eventually MSFT released their own)
they also had dedicated support before google decided that maybe they should have support available for all customers
since gapps' support was a bad joke til about a year ago
call a number that routes to a support office in ireland and leave a message and they'll call you during business hours
gah, this totalterminal update sucks
i thought google didn't really have support and just had some kind of forum
they do now
might not if you're on the discontinued free product, but there's an 800# for paying customers
they have forums, an 800# (local and international) and email ticketing
Can confirm, for paying customers they have had full support for awhile
phone, email
that's better at least
yay, freenode
which server died?
sendak i think
yeah, i was on sendak since 11/15
now i'm on rajaniemi
http://techreport.com/review/27436/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-two-freaking-petabytes
up_the_irons: would you guys be willing to "donate" / "sponsor" a OpenBSD build vm for io.js ?
qbit: probably best to email that question instead
Or up_the_irons will have to prefix his response with OFF: lest the logger publish his response.
Next thing you know, ARP will be full of people begging for a server, not unlike a certain shell provider...
omg, can i have a shell?
That's what she said!!
lol
qbit: You totally can have a shell! I've set it up on 206.125.173.186
ha
i think you cheated a little.
how much resources would you need for a build vm?
You have a shell there, right? Then I did what I said.
staticsafe: would be part of a CI env
so likely for every commit on io.js it would build
I don't know if that is 100% accurate though
Lots of RAM? Lots of CPU? What kind of resources, bro
^
all of them? :P
dual cpu with 4g ram would be super snazzy
AKA "The American" normally $80/mo
(or $82/mo, not sure if it's dual-core)
qbit: do i get our logo somewhere? ;)
believe so - I will verify
k
https://github.com/iojs/build#hardware-sponsors <--- at the very least you will be there
qbit: my concern is that it is going to take a lot of resources (frequent builds)
yeah
valid concern
OFF What if it were just a discounted VM, sold-to qbit who then donates it to iojs?
what you really want for stuff like this is high cpu low cpu priority
qbit: why OpenBSD?  to ensure it builds there?
(because qbit is a huge OpenBSD nerd)
yep
to both :P
i maintain the openbsd port of node (and io.js is going to backport stuff and or become the new node)
:)
so i am interested in it working out of the box :D
gotcha
it sounds like 2.5 gigabit ethernet is coming out
o_o
wut
weird
i want 4.1
nah it's really senssible
10 gigabit is normally 4x2.5 gigabit
and it can be done for near the same cost/power/etc as gigabit
oh it's because of 802.11ac partially
aha
the new 802.11ac stuff is starting to go over gigabit
yeah
but yeah, i'd be fine with 2.5 gigabit ethernet at home probably
but i didn't like the idea of gigabit whenn i store all my data on network :)
do you use a NAS at home?
i use linux as a nas
i'm just upgrading to faster ssd's
err bigger
i am somewhat interested in the Synology NAS products
they are nice
i'm using zfs
synology makes nice stuff
i like the idea of a fast wireless nas you can hide in some ways
looks like  5 gigabit may bee coming soon too
i think 2.5 gigabit is semi here
https://www.synology.com/en-uk/products/DS414j
like the newest ethernet chipsets support it but don't necessarily enable it
cos i was reading about i354 supporting it when i wondered what it was
80mb/sec write speed seems a bit low?
staticsafe: that's a good model  - a friend of mine uses one of those for local photographic backups
why don't they just stick an i3 in or something
because price + power consumption
it does look nice though
their webui is really intuitive too
i couldn't saturate gigabit with my old atom
the new Atoms are really nice
samba seems really cpu hungry, and atoms don't have very good memroy performance etc i suppose
this was old one
yeah the new ones look way better
actually i have one of the newer ones
i should try it
staticsafe: nice in what way?
the desktop one rather than the srever one.  the server one is how i found out about 2.5 gigabit ethernet
up_the_irons: performance/price/power wise
Avoton seriies
supermicro sells them too
staticsafe: ah
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermicro-A1SAM-2750F-O-Intel-Atom-C2750-DDR3-SATA3-V-4GbE-MicroATX-/201047576204?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ecf5e8e8c
^
LAN: SoC I354 Quad Gigabit Ethernet Controller
that apparently supports 2.5 gigabit ethrent
wow it even has ipmi
up_the_irons: yes ;)
that's some hot sauce right there
i wonder what cases you can use for rackmount for multiple boards
i wonder how much supermicro sells those for with the chassis included
i don't think ebay is the cheapest place for supermicro
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101836&cm_re=c2750_barebones-_-16-101-836-_-Product
http://www.superbiiz.com/ is the vender that was suggested to me
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=SY-518ATN4 CHEAP
that's the worst case eever
not even hot swappable drives
http://www.amazon.com/ASRock-Avoton-Rackmount-Barebone-1U12LW-C2750/dp/B00ICZLUQ8
Amazon: "ASRock Intel Avoton C2750/DDR3/V&2GbE 1U Rackmount Server Barebone System 1U12LW-C2750"
i thought this looked expensive at first
but it has 14 drive bays
for 3.5"
now that'd make a nice nas :)
i don't know how you cass them thouh
and i think you need an extra sata controller to use all of them
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101872&cm_re=supermicro_barebones_atom-_-16-101-872-_-Product
http://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=1U12LW-C2750
4x gigabit and ipmi
better pictures there
4x gigabit in LACP mm
http://downloadmirror.intel.com/23244/eng/readme.txt
Support for 2.5Gbps link speed on the Intel(R) Ethernet Connection I354 2.5 GbE Backplane
link aggregation doesn't usually work so well ;(
im gonna guess you need Cat6 for 2.5 GbE?
probably not
cat 5e is probably fine for short runs
2.5 Gigabit per second is feasible on 100m Cat5, Cat5e and Cat6 cable
so yeah i think cat5e will be fine
i imagine people will still recommend cat6
but they're recommending cat6a now
and i think there's a cat7