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| mike-burns | Fastmail. | [08:16] |
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| m0unds | zoho is the only one i know of who lets you bring your own domain and doesn't charge | [09:49] |
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| mercutio | how do they make moeny? | [10:57] |
| m0unds | from people paying them?
they don't allow unlimited users or storage or anything on free plans it's like 5 users w/max 5gb of storage each or something no domain aliases, etc they also have a full suite of CRM webapps and whatnot | [10:58] |
| brycec | They were the big "online Office suite" before Google usurped that title
(and eventually MSFT released their own) | [11:00] |
| m0unds | they also had dedicated support before google decided that maybe they should have support available for all customers
since gapps' support was a bad joke til about a year ago call a number that routes to a support office in ireland and leave a message and they'll call you during business hours | [11:02] |
| gah, this totalterminal update sucks | [11:11] | |
| mercutio | i thought google didn't really have support and just had some kind of forum | [11:12] |
| m0unds | they do now | [11:12] |
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| m0unds | might not if you're on the discontinued free product, but there's an 800# for paying customers
they have forums, an 800# (local and international) and email ticketing | [11:13] |
| brycec | Can confirm, for paying customers they have had full support for awhile
phone, email | [11:19] |
| mercutio | that's better at least | [11:19] |
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| m0unds | yay, freenode | [12:11] |
| staticsafe | which server died? | [12:16] |
| m0unds | sendak i think
yeah, i was on sendak since 11/15 now i'm on rajaniemi | [12:17] |
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| mercutio | http://techreport.com/review/27436/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-two-freaking-petabytes | [15:25] |
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| qbit | up_the_irons: would you guys be willing to "donate" / "sponsor" a OpenBSD build vm for io.js ? | [16:07] |
| brycec | qbit: probably best to email that question instead
Or up_the_irons will have to prefix his response with OFF: lest the logger publish his response. Next thing you know, ARP will be full of people begging for a server, not unlike a certain shell provider... | [16:14] |
| qbit | omg, can i have a shell? | [16:16] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [16:16] |
| qbit | lol | [16:16] |
| brycec | qbit: You totally can have a shell! I've set it up on 206.125.173.186 | [16:16] |
| qbit | ha
i think you cheated a little. | [16:17] |
| staticsafe | how much resources would you need for a build vm? | [16:18] |
| brycec | You have a shell there, right? Then I did what I said. | [16:18] |
| qbit | staticsafe: would be part of a CI env
so likely for every commit on io.js it would build I don't know if that is 100% accurate though | [16:19] |
| brycec | Lots of RAM? Lots of CPU? What kind of resources, bro | [16:19] |
| staticsafe | ^ | [16:19] |
| qbit | all of them? :P
dual cpu with 4g ram would be super snazzy | [16:21] |
| brycec | AKA "The American" normally $80/mo
(or $82/mo, not sure if it's dual-core) | [16:22] |
| up_the_irons | qbit: do i get our logo somewhere? ;) | [16:23] |
| qbit | believe so - I will verify | [16:24] |
| up_the_irons | k | [16:24] |
| qbit | https://github.com/iojs/build#hardware-sponsors <--- at the very least you will be there | [16:24] |
| up_the_irons | qbit: my concern is that it is going to take a lot of resources (frequent builds) | [16:26] |
| qbit | yeah
valid concern | [16:26] |
| brycec | OFF What if it were just a discounted VM, sold-to qbit who then donates it to iojs? | [16:27] |
| mercutio | what you really want for stuff like this is high cpu low cpu priority | [16:27] |
| up_the_irons | qbit: why OpenBSD? to ensure it builds there? | [16:28] |
| brycec | (because qbit is a huge OpenBSD nerd) | [16:28] |
| qbit | yep
to both :P i maintain the openbsd port of node (and io.js is going to backport stuff and or become the new node) | [16:28] |
| up_the_irons | :) | [16:29] |
| qbit | so i am interested in it working out of the box :D | [16:29] |
| up_the_irons | gotcha | [16:29] |
| mercutio | it sounds like 2.5 gigabit ethernet is coming out | [16:39] |
| staticsafe | o_o | [16:40] |
| qbit | wut
weird i want 4.1 | [16:40] |
| mercutio | nah it's really senssible
10 gigabit is normally 4x2.5 gigabit and it can be done for near the same cost/power/etc as gigabit oh it's because of 802.11ac partially | [16:40] |
| staticsafe | aha | [16:42] |
| mercutio | the new 802.11ac stuff is starting to go over gigabit | [16:42] |
| staticsafe | yeah | [16:42] |
| mercutio | but yeah, i'd be fine with 2.5 gigabit ethernet at home probably
but i didn't like the idea of gigabit whenn i store all my data on network :) | [16:43] |
| staticsafe | do you use a NAS at home? | [16:43] |
| mercutio | i use linux as a nas
i'm just upgrading to faster ssd's err bigger | [16:44] |
| staticsafe | i am somewhat interested in the Synology NAS products | [16:45] |
| qbit | they are nice | [16:45] |
| mercutio | i'm using zfs | [16:45] |
| m0unds | synology makes nice stuff | [16:46] |
| mercutio | i like the idea of a fast wireless nas you can hide in some ways
looks like 5 gigabit may bee coming soon too i think 2.5 gigabit is semi here | [16:46] |
| staticsafe | https://www.synology.com/en-uk/products/DS414j | [16:47] |
| mercutio | like the newest ethernet chipsets support it but don't necessarily enable it
cos i was reading about i354 supporting it when i wondered what it was 80mb/sec write speed seems a bit low? | [16:47] |
| m0unds | staticsafe: that's a good model - a friend of mine uses one of those for local photographic backups | [16:49] |
| mercutio | why don't they just stick an i3 in or something | [16:50] |
| m0unds | because price + power consumption | [16:50] |
| mercutio | it does look nice though | [16:50] |
| m0unds | their webui is really intuitive too | [16:50] |
| mercutio | i couldn't saturate gigabit with my old atom | [16:51] |
| staticsafe | the new Atoms are really nice | [16:52] |
| mercutio | samba seems really cpu hungry, and atoms don't have very good memroy performance etc i suppose
this was old one yeah the new ones look way better actually i have one of the newer ones i should try it | [16:52] |
| up_the_irons | staticsafe: nice in what way? | [16:52] |
| mercutio | the desktop one rather than the srever one. the server one is how i found out about 2.5 gigabit ethernet | [16:52] |
| staticsafe | up_the_irons: performance/price/power wise
Avoton seriies supermicro sells them too | [16:52] |
| up_the_irons | staticsafe: ah | [16:53] |
| mercutio | http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermicro-A1SAM-2750F-O-Intel-Atom-C2750-DDR3-SATA3-V-4GbE-MicroATX-/201047576204?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ecf5e8e8c | [16:53] |
| staticsafe | ^ | [16:53] |
| mercutio | LAN: SoC I354 Quad Gigabit Ethernet Controller
that apparently supports 2.5 gigabit ethrent | [16:53] |
| up_the_irons | wow it even has ipmi | [16:54] |
| mercutio | up_the_irons: yes ;) | [16:54] |
| up_the_irons | that's some hot sauce right there | [16:54] |
| mercutio | i wonder what cases you can use for rackmount for multiple boards | [16:54] |
| staticsafe | i wonder how much supermicro sells those for with the chassis included | [16:54] |
| mercutio | i don't think ebay is the cheapest place for supermicro | [16:55] |
| m0unds | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101836&cm_re=c2750_barebones-_-16-101-836-_-Product | [16:55] |
| staticsafe | http://www.superbiiz.com/ is the vender that was suggested to me
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=SY-518ATN4 CHEAP | [16:55] |
| mercutio | that's the worst case eever
not even hot swappable drives http://www.amazon.com/ASRock-Avoton-Rackmount-Barebone-1U12LW-C2750/dp/B00ICZLUQ8 | [16:57] |
| BryceBot | Amazon: "ASRock Intel Avoton C2750/DDR3/V&2GbE 1U Rackmount Server Barebone System 1U12LW-C2750" | [16:57] |
| mercutio | i thought this looked expensive at first
but it has 14 drive bays for 3.5" now that'd make a nice nas :) i don't know how you cass them thouh and i think you need an extra sata controller to use all of them | [16:58] |
| up_the_irons | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101872&cm_re=supermicro_barebones_atom-_-16-101-872-_-Product | [16:59] |
| mercutio | http://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=1U12LW-C2750 | [17:00] |
| up_the_irons | 4x gigabit and ipmi | [17:00] |
| mercutio | better pictures there | [17:00] |
| staticsafe | 4x gigabit in LACP mm | [17:00] |
| mercutio | http://downloadmirror.intel.com/23244/eng/readme.txt
Support for 2.5Gbps link speed on the Intel(R) Ethernet Connection I354 2.5 GbE Backplane link aggregation doesn't usually work so well ;( | [17:01] |
| staticsafe | im gonna guess you need Cat6 for 2.5 GbE? | [17:02] |
| mercutio | probably not
cat 5e is probably fine for short runs 2.5 Gigabit per second is feasible on 100m Cat5, Cat5e and Cat6 cable so yeah i think cat5e will be fine i imagine people will still recommend cat6 but they're recommending cat6a now and i think there's a cat7 | [17:02] |
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