#arpnetworks 2014-11-17,Mon

Erick-

Is there trouble?

pjs

kvr23 having issues?
anyone know?
Erick-, ahh looks like it

Erick-

my vps is down too
yup

pjs

are you on kvr23?

[12:34]

mercutio

there's something on twitter
saying that it's being investigated.
(i'm not on kvr)
err kvr23

[12:39]

pjs

thanks!

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RandalSchwartz

how do you whitelist the self signed jnlp?
Oooh... it worked eventually. I can see the preview image
is there a way to connect to that console?
like with the VPS using VNC?

[13:18]

mercutio

oh preview always worked
the vnc type thing is what i ahd issues with
good luck :)

RandalSchwartz

ahh... something like Remote Control -> Console Redirection -> Launch Console
for which I'm also getting that error message.

mercutio

maybe i shoudl try it too

RandalSchwartz

I downloaded the latest java... maybe that'll work

mercutio

i think older is better
i couldn't choose which
which is why i used virtualbox iirc
private key password verification failed
now i have to remember my private key
oh got it

[13:23]

RandalSchwartz

After updating java, I no longer get the same error message.
no error message, but it still doesn't seem like it's launching my console

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RandalSchwartz

I'm going to email support@ it looks like

[13:29]

mercutio

i'm still trying to get vpn up it seems
TLS key negotiation failed to occur within 60 seconds (check your network connectivity)
UDPv4 link local: [undef]
UDPv4 link remote: [AF_INET]208.79.89.251:1194
hmm i wonder if that's the reason

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mercutio

the link local thing is just because it was set to nobind
i'm still stuck on the vpn hah

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mnathani

whats the difference between TUN and TAP when talking about OpenVPN ?

[15:43]

acf_

tun and tap are both userland interfaces to the TCP/IP stack in the kernel

brycec

layer 3 and layer 2 tunnels respectively

acf_

^ that

brycec

tap = layer 2, with ethernet frames and all
tun = layer 3, simple point-to-point ip, routing
tap is good for bridging disperate networks that require the same broadcast domain
(also some platforms have quirks, notably windows)
And both sides must be configured identically

acf_

often use of tap is discouraged due to the overhead of the Ethernet frame

[15:47]

brycec

And the overhead of useless/needless broadcast traffic ^

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[15:49]

mnathani

would my use case determine which one to use, for instance: I need an IP on my local subnet (via VPN) and access to machines whose default gateway is different from my pfSense box
a diagram would probably help here

[15:55]

acf_

> I need an IP on my local subnet (via VPN)
if by "local subnet" you mean, an IP in the same broadcast domain
you need to use TAP

[15:56]

mnathani

if I get an ip outside the broadcast domain, machines would need to know how to get back to it using a route of some sort?

acf_

yea
you'd need a route on your default gateway (or upstream) that sends traffic across your vpn

brycec

But typically, pfSense handles all that for you ;)

BryceBot

That's what she said!!

brycec

9 out of 10 times, you want tun

[15:58]

mnathani

pfSense is not my internet gateway however

[15:58]

brycec

methinks a diagram may be in order www.asciiflow.com

[15:58]

mnathani

its running in a VM behind a Mikrotik NAT

mercutio

i never did figure out why my openvpn stopped working
i tried from windows too, and it broke there too.

brycec

I blame up_the_irons >.>
<.<

mercutio

i imagine it's because i'm running recent openvpn?
2.3.5
i can't think of any other reason. it used to work.

mnathani

tcpdump to the rescue?

mercutio

i did

brycec

mercutio: Do you have any other active openvpn traffic? Openvpn defaults to binding to :1194 for its source port, and if that conflicted...

mnathani

s/tcp/udp

BryceBot

<mnathani> udpdump to the rescue?

brycec

lol

mercutio

i keep sending packets at arp, and getting nothing in response.

brycec

Then that sounds like an ARP problem

mercutio

brycec: nothing else, and it gets through the first part.
yeah hopefully up_the_irons turns up sometime and i can ask him what he sees.
i did try tcp but it seems to be disabled, port just hangs.

brycec

fwiw, I get no response either

[16:04]

mercutio

your openvpn isn't working you mean?

[16:04]

brycec

so I'm inclined to think it's a bigger issue
I mean I can't get a response from ARP's openvpn

[16:04]

mercutio

with udp?

[16:05]

brycec

(I don't have creds, but I can't get *any* response)
yes
And I know openvpn works from this system

[16:05]

mercutio

well RandalSchwartz was having issues with ipmi
and my memory was hazy, so i wanted to check out the ipmi again

[16:05]

brycec

brycec hilights up_the_irons a couple of up_the_irons times

RandalSchwartz

yeah

mercutio

but his vpn was working, because he had ipmi issues not vpn issues.

brycec

And do you both connect to 208.79.89.251 ?

mercutio

actually that's the other thing you should be able to do RandalSchwartz
you should be able to do ipmi serial console.
vpn1.cust.arpnetworks.com
yeah that ip bryce

RandalSchwartz

I don't know what ipmi serial console is
I only know about using VNC to see the console

[16:07]

mercutio

you use ipmitool and get a serial console basically
i dunno if it's setup or not

[16:07]

RandalSchwartz

right... this is all mystery words to me
I've never used a serial console on freebsd

mercutio

ipmitool -I lanplus -H <ip> -U <user> -P <pass> -o intelplus sol activate
it's eotmhing like that normally

brycec

Also, requires there to be something on the serial port :P

mercutio

yeah

brycec

mercutio: I knew what IP you used, since you announced that earlier. . Question is about what IP RandalSchwartz connects to :p

RandalSchwartz

so... if it worked, it would show some sort of login?

mercutio

oh brycec :)
yeah

brycec

RandalSchwartz: if you have a tty running on that serial port, yes

mercutio

SOL Session operational. Use ~? for help
it'll say that first

brycec

but since you didn't know about it in the first place... we'll assume you haven't configured that :p

RandalSchwartz

yeah

mercutio

it's godawful
i hate ipmi
but it tends to work once it's setup,
and i'm pretty sure up_the_irons set it up
because i seem to remember being happily surprised :)

[16:10]

brycec

up_the_irons setup the IPMI stuff probably, but since you're responsible for your own install, he wouldn't have configured a tty

[16:10]

RandalSchwartz

the user/pass there is the same as the web behind the VPN
or is it my root user/pass?

[16:10]

brycec

should be the same as the web, I'd assume

mercutio

it's the same as the ipmi login on web interface
i'm pretty sure

RandalSchwartz

I suppose I could follow this: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html

brycec

(since you're still connecting to the IPMI/BMC - it's not your root user/pass until you get a prompt from your box)
So long as FreeBSD recognizes the serial device
10.1 added some more IPMI serial device support too

RandalSchwartz

Ugh... this looks like if I do something wrong, I'll break it

mercutio

it should work in bios regardless

RandalSchwartz

and then it won't boot

mercutio

oh brycec ?

RandalSchwartz

and I won't be able to see it not boot

brycec

mercutio: https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.1R/relnotes.html
The uart(4) driver has been updated to include support for the Intel® Lynx Point KT AMT serial port. [r266436]

RandalSchwartz

and neil would be very mad

mercutio

i've got this problem with serial console slowing down normal console i/o

RandalSchwartz

this box is still 8.4 though

mercutio

on more than one system
it's bloody annoying

RandalSchwartz

so 10.x doesn't matter. :)

mercutio

i wish people would make it async
on hp i just use textcons
which is also lame

brycec

serial, by definition, is synchronous...

mercutio

yeah but the normal video output goes at serial speed too
so like if you have serial enabled you can see the screen drawing grub etc

brycec

right

mercutio

that's on linux

RandalSchwartz

Hmm. I wonder how up_the_irons set up that box.... because he'd probably have to do what I'm doing... look at some console somewehre.

mercutio

i can't remember what bsd is like

brycec

tl;dr serial drawing is slow.

mercutio

brycec: it's not that serial is slow, it's that if you have serial enabled normal video is slow too

brycec

It's slower than plain text because there are a bunch of invisible drawing characters taking up space
Ah I understand what you meant
brycec wonders what rabbit hole mnathani has fallen into

mercutio

that's what i meant about it should be async :)
but yeah the normal bios should work, and i imagine thef reebsd boot loeader works

[16:16]

mnathani

that ascii tool is confusing

mercutio

and you can probably do some command to do serial

brycec

brycec finds that ascii tool intuitive and quick

mercutio

you can also reboot with ipmi and access sensors and stuff

brycec

s/i a/i, a/

BryceBot

<mercutio> you can also reboot with ipmi, and access sensors and stuff

mnathani

brycec: I started making a diagram but ended up way more complicated than I need

brycec

(rebooting is not a requisite for accessing sensors, hence the comma addtion)

mercutio

brycec: grr :/

[16:18]

brycec

Maybe that's just the nature of your problem, mnathani :P

[16:18]

mnathani

I have 2 interfaces on the pfSense box
LAN and WAN
WAN will accept the VPN connection
but I need the WAN to also host the local LAN
would I bridge LAN and WAN to achieve this?

[16:18]

brycec

"but I need the WAN to also host the local LAN" wtf??
Also, you just said you have two interfaces... "but I need the WAN to also host the local LAN" suggests you have one. I'm very confused.

[16:19]

mnathani

vpn router on a stick

[16:19]

mercutio

i'm a bit confused by what mnathani is saying

[16:20]

mnathani

nothing really connected to the LAN side

[16:20]

mercutio

you can use a wan interface with lan as well in general
but i imagine pfsense might get in the way

[16:20]

brycec

pfSense doesn't require a LAN interface, it can work with just a single interface
(it's in the setup wizard)

mercutio

you stick extra arp traffic on the wan interface, and arp limits might hurt you

BryceBot

YER A WIZARD brycec

mnathani

WAN = 10.10.100.100/16 LAN 172.16.100.1/24

mercutio

does the wan use dhcp?

mnathani

but the hosts I need to access are 10.10.25.25/16
static WAN

mercutio

so yeah, you just have a gateway on the wan and you just have nat from lan segment to wan segment

brycec

So long as the pfSense box has a route to 10.10/16 (it does), then a VPN client can access/route to that.

mercutio

or you might not need nat depending on the other end
the wan end could have as route to 172.16.100.0/24

mnathani

will my remote VPN client get a TAP ip
from the 10.10.0.0/16 subnet?

brycec

mnathani: it would get an IP from a private ip pool
and its connection to 10.10/16 would be NAT'd (by default)

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mercutio

why do you have openvpn on a /16 ?
just route through it, don't bridge.

[16:23]

mnathani

the pfsense is not the default gatway for other Windows hosts

[16:23]

mercutio

brycec

Doesn't matter

mercutio

adding static routes in windows sucks :/

brycec

VPN subnet -> pfSense -> WAN IP -> whatever host
And those windows hosts would see a connection from the pfSense box's wan IP

mercutio

if it's going to a modem/router, you can add a static route on the modem to the pfsense box.

brycec

so no extra routes needed

mnathani

ok, cool
Internet router is Mikrotik

mercutio

brycec: but the other way around won't work?

brycec

other way round being...
?
tl;dr pfSense is a nat'ing firewall/router. And the VPN traffic is no different than if it were LAN. It has its own subnet, gets nat'd through the pfsense, etc
That's how VPN gets configured by default in pfSense
(if you need to bridge networks for whatever reason, need routed access to vpn clients etc you're in for a long night :p)
asciiflow'd http://sprunge.us/ibDD

(ref http://freebsdfoundation.blogspot.com.au/2014/11/freebsd-foundation-announces-generous.html)

jbergstroem

so yeah. good day for freebsd o/

[16:35]

mercutio

wow
haven't herad of whatsapp
oh it's like the iphone thing?
with direct video calling over internet etc to your normal mobile contacts i think
err like facetime

[16:35]

brycec

IIRC Facebook bought them for billions of dollars
So I guess that explains the influx of cash to the guy :p

[16:40]

mnathani

Could not locate the CA reference for the server certificate.
Failed to export config files!

[16:41]

brycec

pfSense troubleshooting spiel: Do you have a CA setup? Did you assign the CA to the OpenVPN server definition?
"...Facebook announced its acquisition of WhatsApp Inc. on February 19, 2014, for US$19 billion"

[16:41]

mercutio

wtf

brycec

@exch 19000000000 USD JPY

BryceBot

19000000000 USD -> 2215593800000 JPY (as of Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:00:43 -0800)

mercutio

he should donate more than a million then :)
do any of you use whatsapp?
it may be one of those regional things.

brycec

I do not

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mercutio

like hardly anyone here used AIM

[16:43]

brycec

I feel age/generation plays a bigger role today than regions
brycec used AIM

[16:43]

mercutio

but people did use ICQ

[16:44]

brycec

brycec used ICQ
>.>

[16:44]

mercutio

heh.
i used to use micq
and it kept breaking
do you use jabber bryce?

[16:44]

brycec

I have XMPP accounts on several servers, yes

[16:45]

mercutio

figured :)

[16:45]

brycec

including jabber.org, somewhere
WhatsApp came about long after I was out of school, and all my messaging was either Facebook (friends/family) or office xmpp

[16:45]

mercutio

i have icq, aim, msn, gtalk, skype, jabber now
but i basically just use jabber and skype
i like it how you can just easily run your own server and it can connect to other servers.

[16:46]

brycec

I use xmpp and irc
^ primarily

[16:47]

mercutio

heh i don't include irc in that for some reason

[16:47]

brycec

oh and silc to a lesser extent

[16:47]

mercutio

it'd be nice to see more people shift off skype
but the echo cancelling and video works pretty well

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mnathani

I got pfsense to send me the cert and config file
but now I cant connect
mikrotik is forwarding the udp port to the pfsense
External Public IP (UDP 11511) <-> Pfsense 1195 UDP
http://pastebin.com/A2J72FKV

[17:02]

up_the_irons

I see a lot of highlights for me...

[17:12]

mnathani

!mnathani
@mnathani

[17:14]

BryceBot

mnathani: Have you checked whether Windows Firewall is enabled and dropping packets?
1,952 results found. Here's #388 Feb 11, 2014 10:47:31 <mnathani > brycec: do you have a guide you could link to that describes how you setup the ipv6 tunnel using ARP?

mnathani

turned out it was the pfSense firewall

brycec

up_the_irons: people having trouble connecting to the Metal VPN

up_the_irons

sorry been behind today guys... kvr23 also took a dump (but power cycle seems to have fixed it)

mercutio

it's nice if brycebot echoed the twitter stuff in here
i have no idea how complicated that is though

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up_the_irons

it could be that someone's cert has expired

mercutio

how long do they last?

up_the_irons

the client end does not show a useful error when that happens
1 year

brycec

mercutio: Twitter made that against the TOS

mercutio

oh
these files are timestamped 2nd november
brycec: oh?

up_the_irons

this year or last?

mercutio

that sucks
last
so yeah, i think it's just out of date probably
and yheah nothing useful was shown, it looked like your end was ignoring

up_the_irons

brycec: really? so you can't echo stuff from someone's twitter feed?

mercutio

Not After : Nov 2 01:53:58 2014 GMT

brycec

up_the_irons: it's "complicated" but boils down to it being illegal to ingest and regurgitate to broadcast twitter. (because they want twitter to stay on twitter.com, that sort of thing)

[17:19]

mercutio

so i need a new csr, up_the_irons ?

[17:19]

brycec

Services like ifttt.com had to pare down their Twitter integration substantially

[17:19]

mercutio

brycec: i hardly ever use twitter... that is annoying :)

up_the_irons

brycec: ah ok, makes sense i guess...
mercutio: yup
mercutio: just send me a CSR using same method as last time
support@

mercutio

yip

up_the_irons

i'll sign and send back

brycec

I mean, i could still do it... not like I'm going to get caught, but it's a bunch of code I don't feel like writing/updating.

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up_the_irons

yeah

[17:22]

mercutio

brycec: understand.
i know to check twitter before irc if there's an immediate issue.
i assume up_the_irons doesn't want to get distracted

[17:23]

brycec

I get tweets sms'd to me

mercutio

brycec: sounds painful :)

brycec

(from the accounts that matter, like bsdvps)

mercutio

oh you can do that?

brycec

Yes

mercutio

my supermarket keeps emailing me in the middle of the night.

brycec

@google twitter sms notification

BryceBot

2,020,000 total results returned for 'twitter sms notification', here's 3
Twitter Help Center | Receiving SMS notifications for Tweets and ... (https://support.twitter.com/articles/20169920-receiving-sms-notifications-for-tweets-and-interactions) If you've already added your mobile phone to your account, you can now enable notifications for whenever someone you follow Tweets or @mentions you ...
How to Receive SMS/Text Alerts from Twitter - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v69hPJZc1qQ) May 22, 2012 ... This short video will describe how to set up your twitter account so that you can receive sms/text msg alerts from certain twitter updates. ... Configuring the Notification Center on the iPhone by MegaFlyingToast 3,766 views · 27: ...
Twitter Help Center | Enabling mobile notifications (https://support.twitter.com/articles/20169887-enabling-mobile-notifications) If you'd like to receive Twitter notifications to your device, you can attach a phone number to your account for updates via SMS.

mercutio

i dunno how you're meant to deal with this media thing.
like i like to have emails on my phone, i just don't like people to email me at 1 am. i suppose i need more email addresses.
with some way to disable sound for unimportant messages at night

jlgaddis

yeah i switched to multiple accounts. alerts & notifications go to the e-mail account i have set up on my phone, all my regular mail goes to my normal e-mail account (that isn't on my phone)

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mnathani

I use gmail filters to forward to a separate acccount, emails from actual people that notify me on my phone

[17:28]

brycec

My phone is just on silent, plain and simple

[17:29]

mnathani

I would go nuts if I got an alert for all email on my main account

[17:29]

jlgaddis

*nod* before this i did server-side filtering... emails from certain people went into my inbox, anything that fell through to the end of the filters went into a different folder

mnathani

I still have both accounts on the phone, the main one simply does not notify

jlgaddis

i could still pull them up on my phone if i wanted to but i didn't get notified about them

mercutio

jlgaddis: i want htings like advertising going to my phone/tablet, just without sound at night.

up_the_irons

holy crap, i never knew about tweets / sms

mercutio

i don't have html mail for my normal email.

up_the_irons

that could be useful...

jlgaddis

heh, when i first started using twitter, it was only web and sms

[17:31]

mnathani

You will now receive mobile notifications for @arpnetworks's tweets

[17:31]

brycec

^ And now when shit hits the fan, you'll get an out-of-band notification

[17:32]

mercutio

even if it's not your server

[17:32]

brycec

Sure. But it's a very quiet feed anyways

[17:32]

mercutio

i think i know how to solve it on tablet actually, just multiple user accounts.

[17:33]

brycec

Why not just put it on silent? Not to mention disabling notifications for accounts you don't need to be notified of?

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mercutio

cos i have alerts that get emailed to me too
i'm making a new account now :)
it doesn't seem like email has a way to set quiet hours
instead of phone in general
but yeah i can turn off alerts for my main mail

[17:40]

mnathani

I set IPv4 Local Network/s = 10.10.0.0/16, however a route does not show up in my OpenVPN client

[17:43]

brycec

Granted alerts don't play much of a role in my work, but all of my urgent alerting is done through Pushover, which is exempt from the phone silence because it uses the "alarm" "channel"
(In fact, my phone is on silent 100% of the time. Any notifications I care about get pushed to my watch.)
(hooray smartwatches)

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mercutio

smartwatch heh
do you sleep with it on?

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brycec

No, I do not.

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BryceBot

That's what she said!!

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mnathani

can anyone confirm if Liquidweb Storm VPS offerings utilize VMware? I was under the impression it used Xen

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m0unds

afaik, they use xen
i'll confirm for you, give me a minute

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mnathani

[22:21]

m0unds

staticsafe: i managed to hit #59 on connery today for daily score, haha

[22:21]

mnathani: actually..kvm
i have acct credit w/them, so i spooled up a 1GB instance and got this output w/virt-what:

[22:32]

mnathani

even their cloud offerings?

m0unds

[root@textbox ~]# virt-what
kvm
this is a storm server

mnathani

thanks for taking the trouble

m0unds

no problem at all

mnathani

I had 2 live chat sessions with them

m0unds

i could have sworn it was xen

mnathani

one said custom VMware
Nathani 06:28:24 pm

I am curious as to what visualization technology you use for the VPS offerings

Steven Siepierski 06:28:39 pm

We use all of our own VM Ware

Nathani 06:29:08 pm

so you do not us XEN?
*use
sorry for the *spam*
whats the default swap like on a 1GB instance?

m0unds

no idea, i already tore it down, haha
i'd guess it's going to be 256, 512 or 1024mb

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mnathani

one live agent said you set it yourself: you have root access

m0unds

it's possible they don't assign swap, but i didn't check

mnathani

another said, yea it will swap when it runs of out memory before it crashes

m0unds

they also still don't assign ipv6

mnathani

no worries
>> "It will have 1GB of RAM and would use some SWAP if that is exceeded, I'm not sure exactly how much it could handle before the server were to crash. " <<

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[22:45]

mercutio

mnathani: ?
why are you getting some dodgy vps from people with broken english?

[22:52]

m0unds

haha, it's not dodgy
liquidweb is one of the biggest hosting companies in the us
they typically have good support, but their chat people aren't great

[22:56]

mercutio

oh
dreamhost are dodgy and they're huge

m0unds

yeah, they're bad

mercutio

haha i just went to their web site

m0unds

i've had good experiences w/liquidweb via clients who insisted on using them

mercutio

rather disturbing

m0unds

which?

mercutio

and login is over top of contact us
dreamhost

m0unds

looks fine on mine
way off on the right

mercutio

i use 200% zoom.
with 1440p, so it's like 1280x720

m0unds

when i zoom to 200% it does a responsive thing to look like a mobile site
same res here

mercutio

most web sites seem to be designed for about 720p these days
in chrome

up_the_irons

the guy with the 1970's mustache and comb over is what's actually disturbing...

m0unds

yep, used chromium
yeah
up_the_irons: ^^^
that's exactly what i thought when it loaded
hahahah

mercutio

yaeh that's what was disturbing me first.

up_the_irons

lol
hahaha

mnathani

liquid web provides a 60 sec response time for phone support

mercutio

is that good?

mnathani

and you get an admin
not some helpdesk triage person

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mercutio

interesting.
i've hit so many web hosting issues over the years.
it seems to be surprisingly complicated.
hah the girl under learn more is disturbing too
wow liquid web vps pricing starts at $50/month
and when it says 1 cpu does it mean 1 cpu core

acf_

https://www.liquidweb.com/
why do they have pictures of desktop towers? :/

[23:05]

mercutio

it's what they use
or what they used in 97
it's hard to know
oh one interesting thing is they throw in a cheap ssd.
on their dedicated servers.
kingston ssds are known to be pretty bad

[23:05]

mnathani

I ran unix bench on a dedicated I have

[23:07]

mercutio

good?

[23:07]

mnathani

http://pastebin.com/EyPJNCQg
not sure
first time I ever ran something like that
this dedicated has RAID 1 SSD

[23:08]

mercutio

hardware or software?

mnathani

hardware

mercutio

is that v2 cpu?

mnathani

oh and you might like this: 30 minute repair time from when a failure is detected in hardware guarantee

mercutio

reinstall etc is wehat takes time

[23:10]

mnathani

model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E31240 @ 3.30GHz

[23:10]

mercutio

grr why does it make it hard to know
Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1240 V2 @ 3.40GHz
ok v2 does show as v2
and v1 doesn't show as v1
so yeah arp has better cpu on dedicated :)
bandwidth is about the same unless you do heaps of incoming
which isn't normal
hmm that's not the current unixbench version
i better run the older one too

[23:10]

jlgaddis

damn, dedicated servers are expensive

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mercutio

they use more power jlgaddis
/tmp/cc8fwUjo.o:ubgears.c:(.text.unlikely+0x738): more undefined references to `sincos' follow
did you have to do something special
oh it looks like it needs -lm

[23:12]

mnathani

this server was provisioned like 2 years ago : Processor: Intel Xeon E3-1240 Quad Core Sandy Bridge | RAM: 8GB DDR3 SDRAM | SSD: 2 X 256GB SSD in RAID 1 | HD2: 500GB SATA Backup Drive

[23:13]

mercutio

oh yip

[23:13]

mnathani

I installed a bunch of perl and dev tools on centos 6

[23:14]

mercutio

it's cool they were doing ssd's two years ago.
yeah i saw your kernel was old
how long does this take to run

[23:14]

jlgaddis

mnathani: what's that cost, out of curiosity?

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[23:15]

mnathani

cost was interesting
we paid a setup up front to reduce the monthly

[23:15]

jlgaddis

i've got a pair of 1u servers in our datacenter that are waaaaay underutilized. i really should be doing more with them.
if i wasn't so lazy i'd move my last few little websites off of this vps and save myself $20/month, heh

[23:15]

mnathani

$350 setup fee, $274 recurring monthly

[23:16]

jlgaddis

damn

[23:16]

mnathani

recently we renegotiated it down to $220 monthly
Its a managed, cPanel server

[23:17]

jlgaddis

i've got a pair of sun fire x4100 m2's. one is 2 x Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2218 HE CPUs (2.6 GHz), 16 GB RAM, 2 x 146 GB 15K SAS, 4 x GbE. the other is pretty much the same but w/ 20 GB RAM and 4 x 146 GB.
and they pretty much do nothing really... one is my web server and the other my mail server.

[23:20]

mercutio

opteron 218 HE is old right?
err 2218

[23:21]

jlgaddis

i've got another one in my garage but no hdd's in it (i took the 2 out of it and put it in the other box)
yeah they're like 5 or 6 yrs old probably

[23:21]

mercutio

are you paying for power?

[23:21]

jlgaddis

no they're in our dc

mercutio

so it doesn't matter i suppose

jlgaddis

yeah it doesn't cost me anything

mercutio

i have i3 something

jlgaddis

they double as my test machines for work

mercutio

i3-2100. and tbh as a dedicated server it seems pretty fast.

[23:23]

jlgaddis

but i pretty much just use vm's anymore

[23:23]

mercutio

oh it's faster than those amds hah

[23:23]

jlgaddis

yeah i've only got four cores in each. and they're only 2.6ghz i think

[23:25]

mercutio

i was just looking at passmark
i3-2100 is over twice as fast as single dual core
but passmark isn't necessarily the best test.
i'm running unixbench on 3 hosts atm :)

[23:25]

jlgaddis

ahhh, here we go. 2 cores per cpu, 2600mhz, 128kb l1, 1024kb l2, 68w
jlgaddis google's unixbench
jlgaddis adds it to poudriere's list

[23:26]

mercutio

i'm up to pipe throughput
this seems to take ages.

[23:29]

mnathani

oh I did run it on a $10 VPS here at ARP for fun : http://pastebin.com/mAfeEVYD

[23:32]

mercutio

does it take like half an hour to run or osmething?
383 seems a bit low
i've run this before, and i think it's normally over 1000?
oh was this bsd?

[23:32]

mnathani

a good 15 minutes, if I remember correctly

mercutio

nope linux

mnathani

that was Centos 5

mercutio

process creation looks slow, i think that's normally faster.

jlgaddis

i'll run it as soon as poudriere is done

mercutio

why is there no file benchmark?

mnathani

vps was on : kvr15

mercutio

that's what i'm on :)

mnathani

I ran it with flags that disabled file benchmark