#arpnetworks 2014-11-11,Tue

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up_the_ironshttps://twitter.com/up_the_irons/status/532150148256653313 [04:40]
BryceBotTWITTER: @groupon You came up with a product named Gnome without knowing of the Gnome Project of the last 17 years, and are now suing them? FUCK YOU. (Tue Nov 11 12:37:36 +0000 2014, in reply to @Groupon) [04:40]
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mhoranup_the_irons: I just donated. And convinced a bunch of folks in another channel they should donate, even though they don't use GNOME. Because, that's ridiculous. [06:09]
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up_the_ironsmhoran: awesome thanks. yup, totally ridiculous and the only people that win are the attorneys. [06:47]
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mhoranI also told everyone at team standup about the issue and asked them to donate. I think they all did! [07:08]
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mike-burnshttps://twitter.com/coreyhaines/status/532183066479845376 [07:59]
BryceBotTWITTER: Thought: @grouponeng should use some of its budget to help fight the trademark violations that @groupon is doing with GNOME. (Tue Nov 11 14:48:25 +0000 2014, retweeted 6 times) [07:59]
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mike-burnshttps://engineering.groupon.com/2014/misc/gnome-foundation-and-groupon-product-names/ [08:25]
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mhoranIt was all just a plot to get donations for systemd. [08:56]
mike-burnsI'm going to donate to OpenBSD again to make up for it. [08:57]
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mercutiothis is a joke right [12:09]
RandalSchwartzwhat part?
GNOME v GroupOn, or the systemd thing?
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mercutiognome v groupon [12:11]
RandalSchwartzsadly no... I'm hearing it from multiple sources
in fact, trying to get karen on from SFC (formerly head of GNOME) to talk about this tomorrow on FLOSS Weekly
here's the product of conflict: http://gnome.groupon.com
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mercutiotheir product looks interesting [12:14]
RandalSchwartz... http://investor.groupon.com/releasedetail.cfm?releaseid=848707 [12:14]
mercutioyeah thats' what i was on first [12:14]
RandalSchwartzHere's teh conflict: https://gnome.org/groupon/
so yeah, it's real
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mercutiohowcome gnome.groupon.com isn't working [12:15]
RandalSchwartzI know, maybe being ddosed. :) [12:17]
mercutioheh [12:20]
brycec(it loaded for me earlier today)
(fwiw)
Seeing some mixed messages right now... Gnome seems to have their back arched high, and Groupon released a statement saying "be cool, we've been working with them for awhile"
https://www.groupon.com/blog/cities/gnome-update now says they've abandoned Gnome
(as a patent)
(er, trademark)
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RandalSchwartzwhoa... UPDATE: After additional conversations with the open source community and the Gnome Foundation, we have decided to abandon our pending trademark applications for “Gnome.” We will choose a new name for our product going forward.
... https://www.groupon.com/blog/cities/gnome-update
that's why it's gone
nice.
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twobithackerthat's remarkably understanding of them [12:30]
RandalSchwartzif not, GPL v4 would say "everyone EXCEPT GroupOn can use this" :) [12:30]
mercutiohahaha [12:30]
RandalSchwartzBSD... similar. :) [12:31]
mercutioi can't believe they didn't notice [12:31]
RandalSchwartzthe first restriction of the BSD license is... GroupOn can't use this. :) [12:31]
mercutioi tried gnome-shell the other week [12:32]
twobithackerlike ABRMS license? [12:32]
mercutiolinux deskop stuff isn't really amazing.
enlightenment seemed to be the best desktop for non-geeky non-tabbed window manager
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up_the_ironsRandalSchwartz: twobithacker mercutio : very cool that they dropped the case so quick. go internet.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-147-360
what is the significance of "Vertical" SSD ?
I was going to buy more 840 Pro's, but with the 850, I get Assassin's Creed Unity too!
anyone have any experience with the 850's?
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mercutioit's about the MLC/tLC topography
ie they layer nand on top of other nand
i have no experience with 850 pro, but reviews suggest it's marginally faster than 840 pro which was already really pushing against sata 3 limitations.
so now they're even closer to sata 3 limitations
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up_the_ironsah ok [18:42]
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mercutiolast i knew 850 pros had quite a premium over 840 pros
but that may have just been to reduce stock
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8216/samsung-ssd-850-pro-128gb-256gb-1tb-review-enter-the-3d-era/9
looks like 128gb gets a mild boost
and the 256gb boost is easy to get lost in the noise
it's only really heavy workload it shows on
where normal hard-disks are a couple of orders of magnitude slower
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up_the_ironsmercutio: well, looks like the 840's are sold out on newegg, so i had to order the 850's [19:03]
mercutioall good :)
it's not a bad thing
but 840 pros used to be like $50 cheaper or something
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up_the_ironsyeah [19:04]
mercutioamazon keeps going up in price on samsung ssd's recently
i left some in my cart
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mercutiobut they're listing 850 pro 128gb at $110 and 256gb at $185.85
and 840 pro 256gb at $158
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up_the_ironsyeah [19:07]
mercutioat ~$25'ish diff i'd get what was in stock prob [19:07]
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up_the_ironsdang, sold out all our dedi's
good thing a new chassis is coming
i would have thought this time of year would be slow... but it's quite busy
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mercutioup_the_irons: is that what the ssds were for? [22:08]
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brycecCongrats, up_the_irons [23:03]
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up_the_ironsyeah
mercutio: yeah
brycec: thanks :)
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