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[04:40] <up_the_irons> https://twitter.com/up_the_irons/status/532150148256653313
[04:40] <BryceBot> TWITTER: @groupon You came up with a product named Gnome without knowing of the Gnome Project of the last 17 years, and are now suing them? FUCK YOU. (Tue Nov 11 12:37:36 +0000 2014, in reply to @Groupon)
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[06:09] <mhoran> up_the_irons: I just donated. And convinced a bunch of folks in another channel they should donate, even though they don't use GNOME. Because, that's ridiculous.
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[06:47] <up_the_irons> mhoran: awesome thanks.  yup, totally ridiculous and the only people that win are the attorneys.
[07:08] <mhoran> I also told everyone at team standup about the issue and asked them to donate. I think they all did!
[07:59] <mike-burns> https://twitter.com/coreyhaines/status/532183066479845376
[07:59] <BryceBot> TWITTER: Thought: @grouponeng should use some of its budget to help fight the trademark violations that @groupon is doing with GNOME. (Tue Nov 11 14:48:25 +0000 2014, retweeted 6 times)
[08:25] <mike-burns> https://engineering.groupon.com/2014/misc/gnome-foundation-and-groupon-product-names/
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[08:56] <mhoran> It was all just a plot to get donations for systemd.
[08:57] <mike-burns> I'm going to donate to OpenBSD again to make up for it.
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[12:09] <mercutio> this is a joke right
[12:11] <RandalSchwartz> what part?
[12:11] <RandalSchwartz> GNOME v GroupOn, or the systemd thing?
[12:11] <mercutio> gnome v groupon
[12:12] <RandalSchwartz> sadly no... I'm hearing it from multiple sources
[12:12] <RandalSchwartz> in fact, trying to get karen on from SFC (formerly head of GNOME) to talk about this tomorrow on FLOSS Weekly
[12:12] <RandalSchwartz> here's the product of conflict: http://gnome.groupon.com
[12:14] <mercutio> their product looks interesting
[12:14] <RandalSchwartz> ... http://investor.groupon.com/releasedetail.cfm?releaseid=848707
[12:14] <mercutio> yeah thats' what i was on first
[12:14] <RandalSchwartz> Here's teh conflict: https://gnome.org/groupon/
[12:14] <RandalSchwartz> so yeah, it's real
[12:15] <mercutio> howcome gnome.groupon.com isn't working
[12:17] <RandalSchwartz> I know, maybe being ddosed. :)
[12:20] <mercutio> heh
[12:25] <brycec> (it loaded for me earlier today)
[12:25] <brycec> (fwiw)
[12:25] <brycec> Seeing some mixed messages right now... Gnome seems to have their back arched high, and Groupon released a statement saying "be cool, we've been working with them for awhile"
[12:26] <brycec> https://www.groupon.com/blog/cities/gnome-update now says they've abandoned Gnome
[12:26] <brycec> (as a patent)
[12:26] <brycec> (er, trademark)
[12:27] <RandalSchwartz> whoa... UPDATE: After additional conversations with the open source community and the Gnome Foundation, we have decided to abandon our pending trademark applications for “Gnome.” We will choose a new name for our product going forward.
[12:27] <RandalSchwartz> ... https://www.groupon.com/blog/cities/gnome-update
[12:27] <RandalSchwartz> that's why it's gone
[12:29] <RandalSchwartz> nice.
[12:30] <twobithacker> that's remarkably understanding of them
[12:30] <RandalSchwartz> if not, GPL v4 would say "everyone EXCEPT GroupOn can use this" :)
[12:30] <mercutio> hahaha
[12:31] <RandalSchwartz> BSD... similar. :)
[12:31] <mercutio> i can't believe they didn't notice
[12:31] <RandalSchwartz> the first restriction of the BSD license is... GroupOn can't use this. :)
[12:32] <mercutio> i tried gnome-shell the other week
[12:32] <twobithacker> like ABRMS license?
[12:32] <mercutio> linux deskop stuff isn't really amazing.
[12:33] <mercutio> enlightenment seemed to be the best desktop for non-geeky non-tabbed window manager
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[18:32] <up_the_irons> RandalSchwartz: twobithacker mercutio : very cool that they dropped the case so quick.  go internet.
[18:32] <up_the_irons> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-147-360
[18:32] <up_the_irons> what is the significance of "Vertical" SSD ?
[18:33] <up_the_irons> I was going to buy more 840 Pro's, but with the 850, I get Assassin's Creed Unity too!
[18:33] <up_the_irons> anyone have any experience with the 850's?
[18:34] <mercutio> it's about the MLC/tLC topography
[18:34] <mercutio> ie they layer nand on top of other nand
[18:35] <mercutio> i have no experience with 850 pro, but reviews suggest it's marginally faster than 840 pro which was already really pushing against sata 3 limitations.
[18:35] <mercutio> so now they're even closer to sata 3 limitations
[18:42] <up_the_irons> ah ok
[18:57] <mercutio> last i knew 850 pros had quite a premium over 840 pros
[18:57] <mercutio> but that may have just been to reduce stock
[18:58] <mercutio> http://www.anandtech.com/show/8216/samsung-ssd-850-pro-128gb-256gb-1tb-review-enter-the-3d-era/9
[19:00] <mercutio> looks like 128gb gets a mild boost
[19:00] <mercutio> and the 256gb boost is easy to get lost in the noise
[19:01] <mercutio> it's only really heavy workload it shows on
[19:01] <mercutio> where normal hard-disks are a couple of orders of magnitude slower
[19:03] <up_the_irons> mercutio: well, looks like the 840's are sold out on newegg, so i had to order the 850's
[19:04] <mercutio> all good :)
[19:04] <mercutio> it's not a bad thing
[19:04] <mercutio> but 840 pros used to be like $50 cheaper or something
[19:04] <up_the_irons> yeah
[19:05] <mercutio> amazon keeps going up in price on samsung ssd's recently
[19:05] <mercutio> i left some in my cart
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[19:05] <mercutio> but they're listing 850 pro 128gb at $110 and 256gb at $185.85
[19:05] <mercutio> and 840 pro 256gb at $158
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[19:07] <up_the_irons> yeah
[19:07] <mercutio> at ~$25'ish diff i'd get what was in stock prob
[20:55] <up_the_irons> dang, sold out all our dedi's
[20:55] <up_the_irons> good thing a new chassis is coming
[20:55] <up_the_irons> i would have thought this time of year would be slow...  but it's quite busy
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[22:08] <mercutio> up_the_irons: is that what the ssds were for?
[23:03] <brycec> Congrats, up_the_irons
[23:39] <up_the_irons> yeah
[23:39] <up_the_irons> mercutio: yeah
[23:39] <up_the_irons> brycec: thanks :)