[00:01] *** gizmoguy has joined #arpnetworks [00:57] *** LT has joined #arpnetworks [01:09] *** erratic- has joined #arpnetworks [04:40] <up_the_irons> https://twitter.com/up_the_irons/status/532150148256653313 [04:40] <BryceBot> TWITTER: @groupon You came up with a product named Gnome without knowing of the Gnome Project of the last 17 years, and are now suing them? FUCK YOU. (Tue Nov 11 12:37:36 +0000 2014, in reply to @Groupon) [06:01] *** novae has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [06:01] *** carvite has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [06:03] *** carvite has joined #arpnetworks [06:05] *** novae has joined #arpnetworks [06:09] <mhoran> up_the_irons: I just donated. And convinced a bunch of folks in another channel they should donate, even though they don't use GNOME. Because, that's ridiculous. [06:35] *** bardo has joined #arpnetworks [06:47] <up_the_irons> mhoran: awesome thanks. yup, totally ridiculous and the only people that win are the attorneys. [07:08] <mhoran> I also told everyone at team standup about the issue and asked them to donate. I think they all did! [07:59] <mike-burns> https://twitter.com/coreyhaines/status/532183066479845376 [07:59] <BryceBot> TWITTER: Thought: @grouponeng should use some of its budget to help fight the trademark violations that @groupon is doing with GNOME. (Tue Nov 11 14:48:25 +0000 2014, retweeted 6 times) [08:25] <mike-burns> https://engineering.groupon.com/2014/misc/gnome-foundation-and-groupon-product-names/ [08:51] *** notion_ is now known as notion [08:56] <mhoran> It was all just a plot to get donations for systemd. [08:57] <mike-burns> I'm going to donate to OpenBSD again to make up for it. [09:44] *** LT has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [12:09] <mercutio> this is a joke right [12:11] <RandalSchwartz> what part? [12:11] <RandalSchwartz> GNOME v GroupOn, or the systemd thing? [12:11] <mercutio> gnome v groupon [12:12] <RandalSchwartz> sadly no... I'm hearing it from multiple sources [12:12] <RandalSchwartz> in fact, trying to get karen on from SFC (formerly head of GNOME) to talk about this tomorrow on FLOSS Weekly [12:12] <RandalSchwartz> here's the product of conflict: http://gnome.groupon.com [12:14] <mercutio> their product looks interesting [12:14] <RandalSchwartz> ... http://investor.groupon.com/releasedetail.cfm?releaseid=848707 [12:14] <mercutio> yeah thats' what i was on first [12:14] <RandalSchwartz> Here's teh conflict: https://gnome.org/groupon/ [12:14] <RandalSchwartz> so yeah, it's real [12:15] <mercutio> howcome gnome.groupon.com isn't working [12:17] <RandalSchwartz> I know, maybe being ddosed. :) [12:20] <mercutio> heh [12:25] <brycec> (it loaded for me earlier today) [12:25] <brycec> (fwiw) [12:25] <brycec> Seeing some mixed messages right now... Gnome seems to have their back arched high, and Groupon released a statement saying "be cool, we've been working with them for awhile" [12:26] <brycec> https://www.groupon.com/blog/cities/gnome-update now says they've abandoned Gnome [12:26] <brycec> (as a patent) [12:26] <brycec> (er, trademark) [12:27] <RandalSchwartz> whoa... UPDATE: After additional conversations with the open source community and the Gnome Foundation, we have decided to abandon our pending trademark applications for “Gnome.†We will choose a new name for our product going forward. [12:27] <RandalSchwartz> ... https://www.groupon.com/blog/cities/gnome-update [12:27] <RandalSchwartz> that's why it's gone [12:29] <RandalSchwartz> nice. [12:30] <twobithacker> that's remarkably understanding of them [12:30] <RandalSchwartz> if not, GPL v4 would say "everyone EXCEPT GroupOn can use this" :) [12:30] <mercutio> hahaha [12:31] <RandalSchwartz> BSD... similar. :) [12:31] <mercutio> i can't believe they didn't notice [12:31] <RandalSchwartz> the first restriction of the BSD license is... GroupOn can't use this. :) [12:32] <mercutio> i tried gnome-shell the other week [12:32] <twobithacker> like ABRMS license? [12:32] <mercutio> linux deskop stuff isn't really amazing. [12:33] <mercutio> enlightenment seemed to be the best desktop for non-geeky non-tabbed window manager [16:00] *** bardo has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [16:01] *** bardo has joined #arpnetworks [17:05] *** erratic- has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [18:32] <up_the_irons> RandalSchwartz: twobithacker mercutio : very cool that they dropped the case so quick. go internet. [18:32] <up_the_irons> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-147-360 [18:32] <up_the_irons> what is the significance of "Vertical" SSD ? [18:33] <up_the_irons> I was going to buy more 840 Pro's, but with the 850, I get Assassin's Creed Unity too! [18:33] <up_the_irons> anyone have any experience with the 850's? [18:34] <mercutio> it's about the MLC/tLC topography [18:34] <mercutio> ie they layer nand on top of other nand [18:35] <mercutio> i have no experience with 850 pro, but reviews suggest it's marginally faster than 840 pro which was already really pushing against sata 3 limitations. [18:35] <mercutio> so now they're even closer to sata 3 limitations [18:42] <up_the_irons> ah ok [18:57] <mercutio> last i knew 850 pros had quite a premium over 840 pros [18:57] <mercutio> but that may have just been to reduce stock [18:58] <mercutio> http://www.anandtech.com/show/8216/samsung-ssd-850-pro-128gb-256gb-1tb-review-enter-the-3d-era/9 [19:00] <mercutio> looks like 128gb gets a mild boost [19:00] <mercutio> and the 256gb boost is easy to get lost in the noise [19:01] <mercutio> it's only really heavy workload it shows on [19:01] <mercutio> where normal hard-disks are a couple of orders of magnitude slower [19:03] <up_the_irons> mercutio: well, looks like the 840's are sold out on newegg, so i had to order the 850's [19:04] <mercutio> all good :) [19:04] <mercutio> it's not a bad thing [19:04] <mercutio> but 840 pros used to be like $50 cheaper or something [19:04] <up_the_irons> yeah [19:05] <mercutio> amazon keeps going up in price on samsung ssd's recently [19:05] <mercutio> i left some in my cart [19:05] *** RandalSchwartz has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [19:05] *** KDE_Perry has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [19:05] <mercutio> but they're listing 850 pro 128gb at $110 and 256gb at $185.85 [19:05] <mercutio> and 840 pro 256gb at $158 [19:06] *** KDE_Perry has joined #arpnetworks [19:07] <up_the_irons> yeah [19:07] <mercutio> at ~$25'ish diff i'd get what was in stock prob [20:55] <up_the_irons> dang, sold out all our dedi's [20:55] <up_the_irons> good thing a new chassis is coming [20:55] <up_the_irons> i would have thought this time of year would be slow... but it's quite busy [21:13] *** RandalSchwartz has joined #arpnetworks [21:13] *** RandalSchwartz has quit IRC (Changing host) [21:13] *** RandalSchwartz has joined #arpnetworks [21:37] *** sga0 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [22:01] *** sga0 has joined #arpnetworks [22:08] <mercutio> up_the_irons: is that what the ssds were for? [23:03] <brycec> Congrats, up_the_irons [23:39] <up_the_irons> yeah [23:39] <up_the_irons> mercutio: yeah [23:39] <up_the_irons> brycec: thanks :)