#arpnetworks 2014-11-04,Tue

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up_the_ironsWe are now announcing routes to Level 3 [00:11]
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mercutiosweet
about level3
hmm my fowrad route even goes via level3 now
did it chagne 18 minutes ago?
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oh one hour 18 minutes ago i meant to say [01:34]
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mercutioup_the_irons: how's the split of traffic looking?
i tested around the place a little
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BryceBotThat's what she said!! [02:03]
mercutioi suspect there are a lot of hosts with similar path cost down ntt and level3 [02:03]
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pyvpxwhat a great time to have a public looking glass [02:47]
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mercutiopyvpx: now if onyl other people would follow suit :) [03:00]
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up_the_ironsmercutio: no change in forward. at least, shouldn't be... l3 was always a default route if we didn't have anything else more specific [04:19]
mercutiooh i mean for how much comes into your network
compared to ntt
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up_the_ironsmercutio: i don't have a graph on it yet
up_the_irons adds it now
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mercutioahh ok
it's just idle curiosity anyway
i suppose you could see how much ntt dropped
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up_the_ironsyeah.. it dropped like between 10-20 Mbps
nothing spectacular
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mercutioi suspect some sites have the same as path length
so it can probably bounce around a bit depending on who's been most stable
i kind of think bgp is inadequate
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BryceBotThat's what she said!! [04:31]
mercutiolike it can't prefer networks with shorter real paths. only shorter as paths. [04:31]
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cpetup_the_irons: i made a arduino board that pings my home server then displays a gren or red dot [05:52]
up_the_irons: what do you guys use now for server monitoring zenoss, nagios ? simple [perl script running in a cran and emails people ?
"Houston we have a blown gaskey on $SERVERID
i need to order a new lappy this keyboard is messed up
Reply from 74.125.225.240: bytes=32 time=611ms TTL=51
also that doesnt help much
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mercutiocpet: if using wireless i find disabling power save mode on wifi can help [12:32]
brycecSomehow I doubt the wifi his problem :p [12:34]
mercutiomaybe
but it may make it worse if there's high ping, it can add another 100 msec
it seems the power saving mostly means that incoming traffic gets delayed, if you type something and get response fast it seems ok.
but if there's delay already, it may be going back into power saving mode.
like if i ssh to my wireless connected host it's really laggy, but sshing from it is fast.
disabling power save fixes it.
i dunno what average delay between characters is, but it seems pretty aggressive.
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cpetthis is sat
not much you xcan do
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brycecStill shaving 100ms off 2000ms would help, but may not be worth the effort :p [13:56]
cpetshit goes up and down more than [13:58]
mercutiooh sat, eek [14:10]
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cpetyeah 512 kb sat link [14:29]
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mercutiofinally got my invite acceptance from google inbox
i wonder what it's like
and it doesn't orientate properly argh :)
actually it seems nice
well on phone/computer
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brycecHey ARP, let's represent https://lobste.rs/s/tit5yp [16:04]
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cpetis that SFW [16:20]
mhoranYes. [16:21]
cpetaw tit in there figured i should ask hah
mercutio: i stopped using free and hopst my own email
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mercutiocpet: i host my own email too [16:40]
up_the_ironscpet: you should share pics of your arduino setup [16:40]
mercutiobut i use gmail for a few things on phone/tablet [16:40]
cpetup_the_irons: il send when I get home [16:41]
mercutioi've been hosting my own email for over 15 years now :) [16:41]
cpetill [16:41]
mercutiocpet: is arduino coding hard?
i got an arduino kit but i haven't actually looked into it yet
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cpetno
if you know C
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mercutioyeah i know c [16:45]
cpetit has its own ide [16:46]
mercutiowhat?! people are pushing for ipv4 to be shutdown in 2024.
i suppose there's some advance notice but i thought ipv4 never had to be shutdown evne
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cpetpeople worry about the strangest thing
hah
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up_the_ironsmercutio: ChinaNet has an IPv4 decommission plan; I heard they will start to implement in 2016. [18:22]
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mercutioup_the_irons: wow
in my research i found something suggesting that a lot of traffic is already ipv6 reachable of the high bandwidth things
it seems wrong to me, myself.
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BryceBotThat's what she said!! [20:30]
mercutiobut i think it was probably us-centric, and afaik things like bittorrent are less common there, and things like netflix more common.
and i suppose it depends if you were ipv6 only or ipv4+ivp6.
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brycecSeveral times ipv4 has failed at the office and I didn't notice for hours because ipv6 :D [20:33]
mercutioi'd notice straight away :)
i notice when my friends have net problems cos skype goes offline for them :)
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brycecHeh I have yet to see any ipv6 connections in skype-land. However that will likely change since msft bought them.
*it
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staticsafeunlikely* [20:35]
brycecmsft is 99% ipv6 actually
ipv6-reachable*
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/network/hh994905.aspx
(less ipv6-connectivity on the websites than I'd thought.)
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staticsafeindeed [20:39]
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mnathaniis it possible to add functionality to the looking glass that will expand or identify the networks as opposed to simply listing the AS numbers, or perhaps a quick way to look them up? [22:57]

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