#arpnetworks 2014-11-03,Mon

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cpeti sent a ticket and I don't see it nor see any existence of it was it silentely removed ? [12:39]
mercutio`probably not [12:40]
cpeti removed old emails not sure if that does something [12:46]
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erratic_hey I was wondering if anyone could reccomend any articles that goes through in detail and explains the latency I experience on my connection from here in Greece to Arp back in LA
I was reading a little about transatlantic cabling but it wasn't revealing if anything it seems to indicate that I'm getting screwed
but I'm just curious I don't really understand or need to just want to know...
kinda curious to learn about where the internet is going and why it is the way it is
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shatup_the_irons: you around today?
left you a voicemail yesterday
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cpeterratic_: normally you buy a vps close to where you live
farther you are the longer it takes for packet to get to destination
completely normal
now if arp has some links in europe then your ping would be shorter but i really dont know
i would wait for up_the_irons to give you a better anbswer
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mnathanis/anbswer/answer [13:07]
BryceBot<cpet> i would wait for up_the_irons to give you a better answer [13:07]
cpetim on sat inet so going back to correct stuff takes to long to wory about [13:07]
mnathanicpet: what kind of latency do you experience to ARP? [13:08]
cpeti dont have a vps with arp
i came in here to see if theres a reason that my request was removed
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mnathaniok [13:11]
cpetbut pinging arp i get a ping of 2-3000
but this is sat link so thats normal heh
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mnathaniI would go insane with that kind of latency
probably worse than dialup?
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cpetits what we got [13:12]
mnathaniwherabouts? [13:13]
cpetmiddle of the gulf
i work offshore so we have 512K inet
with a ping of 2-3000 higher if raining or bad weather
hilaurious when using ssh
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staticsafeouch [13:17]
mnathanihow many folks using the net at the same time? [13:17]
staticsafehave you tried mosh? [13:17]
cpetabout 20 [13:17]
mnathanihttps://mosh.mit.edu/ [13:18]
cpeti know what moish is
its on my list of shit to do when I get home
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erratic_im whaling on the moon
i carry a harpoon
but there aint no whales
so we tell tall tales
and sing our whaling tune
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cpetthats cute
ill put it on my list of useless stuff on irc :P
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erratic_I'd send u an ascii pr0n but this primitive freenode server cant handle the sendq of my mighty client [13:50]
cpetcould always send it to me by b bs [13:50]
erratic_man I gotta go to sleep, got a few answers on nanog
l8rs
cpet: wasnt really looking for an obvious answer, but at the same time didn't expect a right or wrong one either so *shrug*
goodnight
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cpetwell latency has nothing to do with the cable its the distance
this is why you locla net has a ping of 87 and pinging russia give me a ping of alost 9000
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erratic_yeah but if you read what they say about the whole thing end to end on wikipedia (I know not great but... what else is there) the latency from NY to UK is <60ms
here just a sec
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_communications_cable
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BryceBotTransatlantic communications cable :: A transatlantic telecommunications cable is a submarine communications cable connecting one side of the Atlantic Ocean to the other. History When the first transatlantic telegraph cable was laid in 1858 by businessman Cyrus West Field, it operated for only three weeks; subsequent attempts in 1865 and 1866 were more successful. Although a telephone cable was discussed starting in the 1920s, to be practic [14:01]
erratic_I'll check back tomorrow for response seriously have to lay down now [14:02]
cpeti havent slept well since i got on here 2 weeks ago [14:03]
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brycecs/useless stuff on irc/IRC/ [15:01]
BryceBot<cpet> ill put it on my list of IRC :P [15:01]
brycecredundant redundancy removed :D
I can tell you that's not the way up_the_irons or ARP runs, so if it disappeared, I'd assume technical or user error.
For starters, emails get an autoreply. If you didn't get that autoreply, cpet, then your email was not received for whatever reason.
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mercutioerratic_: latency shouldn't be high
i can't see any pastebin of traceroute.
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oh oyu have to top post in support mails
maybe that's the issue?
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brycecmercutio: cpet stated he "sent a ticket", nothing there about replies [15:20]
mercutiohmm
yeh
true
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brycec(This is why up_the_irons added the auto-reply) [15:20]
mercutiooops :) i should try and stop doing one word messages. [15:20]
bryceclol [15:21]
mercutioyeah i looked for auto-reply and didn't see anything. but i haven't mailed support recently. [15:21]
brycecit's
ok
I have, and I promise you there is one. It even links to related KB articles
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mercutiooh actually i've seen that. [15:21]
brycecThose articles usually say "if none of this worked/in order to request this/etc email support@"
And then I shout at the email "that's exactly what I'm doing, you nitwit"
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mercutioi had heaps of sales receipts crowding my inbox [15:22]
brycecheh [15:22]
mercutioheh
i'm still hoping this fb guy messages me back with something useful.
i'm hoping that facebook can improve their dns server selection :)
i figured emailing had more than 0% chance, like just hoping in the back of my mind.
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cpetwell i foind one of the problems
for some reaons it didint update my emial the first time
now i see all my other requests etc.. weird
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mercutioweird. [16:08]
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up_the_ironsanyone use pingmybox.com for ipv6 monitoring? [19:09]
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mnathaniwhen is the use of fsck warranted vs necessary vs recommended? and what does it accomplish? [20:53]
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mercutiofsck doesn't really help
it's more it can tell you if there is issues
the main time fsck can help is when you have sudden power loss, but ext file systems can get corruption then anyway
fortunately usually you only have zeroed files
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brycec"fsck" is a generic term and a basic program that calls fsck.$filesystem for the given device. So what it does, its semantics, etc can vary between filesystems, eg fsck.xfs vs fsck.ffs
Generally speaking, it checks and if possible repairs a filesystem
(depending on command-line switches, etc)
Warranted: Same as necessary. Necessary: whenever there's corruption (or a risk thereof). Recommended: Periodically.
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