#arpnetworks 2014-10-27,Mon

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RandalSchwartz... https://www.atlantic.net
$0.99/month for freebsd hosting!
"but we make it up in volume!"
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twobithackerman, that's cheap
I've spun up a couple of vultr VPSs lately. bit cheaper than ARP, not sure if I like them or not yet
They've got some weird quirks around IPv6
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mercutioit's not one of those "8" ipv6 address things or such is it
solusvm has whacked ipv6 support
where you can only assign single ipv6's to clients
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twobithackernah, it's just a weird thing with their VM driver that reflects multicast packets back at their source, which breaks duplicate address detection
which causes interfaces to disable IPv6 support :/
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mercutioweird [14:30]
twobithackernet.inet6.ip6.dad_count=0 fixes it (well, for values of "fix") [14:30]
RandalSchwartzweird. [14:41]
up_the_ironsjeez 99 cents [14:44]
mercutiothis vultr.com has many many locations [14:44]
up_the_ironswow they sure do [14:47]
mercutioi am tempted to try sydney location
i had a sydney vps before that i was doing some monitoring for and it had terrible performance
i dunno why i'd never heard of them before
they seem to be run by choopa
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i think it's the race to the bottom [15:09]
up_the_ironsit's always the race to the bottom
unfortunately
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mercutioi do like the idea of multiple locations
but the idea doesn't mean that all locations are going to be good
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mnathanican Xen and KVM co-exist on the same box? [20:38]
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mercutioyeh
oh
you mean run xen virtual machiens and kvm virtual machines at once?
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mnathaniyes, at the same time [21:02]
mercutioi think you could probably do that with pv xen and kvm hardware
you can also run xen inside kvm though
actually now that you mention it i think it probably wouldn't work well
because xen dom0 takes over machine, then runs the dom0
which would then haev to have kvm module which then wouldn't be able to act as a hypervisor.
there is some work on emulating virtualisation capabilities to virtualise inside virtualise.
if i was you i'd choose my weapon though.
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mnathanihow are the graphical tools to work with Xen? Or is it pretty much command line for configuring VMs? [21:05]
mercutiothe graphical tools are all terrible
with kvm and xen i'd recommend going command line in both cases.
there are various frameworks that can maintain things for you. but they're web rather than gui for the most part.
there's virt-manager that supports both but it's terrible.
http://virt-manager.org/
you never know, you might like it. it makes it hard if you want to do "fancy" things.
but the user interface isn't too complicated.
and if you just want to see cpu usage and console and set the number of cpu cores and memory it's fine.;
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mnathanivirt-manager generates configs that can be manally modified? [21:08]
mercutioit's kind of xml
http://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html
i find it messy :)
but it's consistent messy i suppose.
i use xl with xen
actually mine looks liek that too mhm
for the most part i just copy one config to another and edit the details
and clone the partition or create new partition
afaik no-ones really got templating done well in a way they've releaed to public. you can download some base images of different distros but they're terrible.
you can use debootstrap and do it yourself, but it's not ready to go.
like afaik up_the_irons did a lot of his own config for his templates, which means every time there's a new release he has to do more work.
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mnathanido you work with puppet at all? [21:15]
BryceBotThat's what she said!! [21:15]
mnathaniBryceBot: no [21:15]
BryceBotOh, okay... I'm sorry. 'do you work with puppet at all?' [21:15]
mercutionah
it's one of those things i thought i should look at sometime :)
along with ruby etc, and all those other new fancy things.
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brycecI personally prefer ansible, but my needs are quite modest. [22:03]
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mercutioi wonder if there's an overview of all these different sys admin things somewhere
some sysadmin or something blog that talks about things like this could be cool.
i'd never even heard of ansible.
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pcnDo you love ssh more than life itself? Do you love yaml like it's your very own favorite sandal?
Or something like that. It's a pretty good system for handfuls of systems.
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