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| RandalSchwartz | ... https://www.atlantic.net
$0.99/month for freebsd hosting! "but we make it up in volume!" | [13:13] | |
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| twobithacker | man, that's cheap
I've spun up a couple of vultr VPSs lately. bit cheaper than ARP, not sure if I like them or not yet They've got some weird quirks around IPv6 | [13:39] | |
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| mercutio | it's not one of those "8" ipv6 address things or such is it
solusvm has whacked ipv6 support where you can only assign single ipv6's to clients | [14:27] | |
| twobithacker | nah, it's just a weird thing with their VM driver that reflects multicast packets back at their source, which breaks duplicate address detection
which causes interfaces to disable IPv6 support :/ | [14:29] | |
| mercutio | weird | [14:30] | |
| twobithacker | net.inet6.ip6.dad_count=0 fixes it (well, for values of "fix") | [14:30] | |
| RandalSchwartz | weird. | [14:41] | |
| up_the_irons | jeez 99 cents | [14:44] | |
| mercutio | this vultr.com has many many locations | [14:44] | |
| up_the_irons | wow they sure do | [14:47] | |
| mercutio | i am tempted to try sydney location
i had a sydney vps before that i was doing some monitoring for and it had terrible performance i dunno why i'd never heard of them before they seem to be run by choopa | [14:52] | |
| i think it's the race to the bottom | [15:09] | ||
| up_the_irons | it's always the race to the bottom
unfortunately | [15:12] | |
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| mercutio | i do like the idea of multiple locations
but the idea doesn't mean that all locations are going to be good | [15:28] | |
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| mnathani | can Xen and KVM co-exist on the same box? | [20:38] | |
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| mercutio | yeh
oh you mean run xen virtual machiens and kvm virtual machines at once? | [21:01] | |
| mnathani | yes, at the same time | [21:02] | |
| mercutio | i think you could probably do that with pv xen and kvm hardware
you can also run xen inside kvm though actually now that you mention it i think it probably wouldn't work well because xen dom0 takes over machine, then runs the dom0 which would then haev to have kvm module which then wouldn't be able to act as a hypervisor. there is some work on emulating virtualisation capabilities to virtualise inside virtualise. if i was you i'd choose my weapon though. | [21:02] | |
| mnathani | how are the graphical tools to work with Xen? Or is it pretty much command line for configuring VMs? | [21:05] | |
| mercutio | the graphical tools are all terrible
with kvm and xen i'd recommend going command line in both cases. there are various frameworks that can maintain things for you. but they're web rather than gui for the most part. there's virt-manager that supports both but it's terrible.
you never know, you might like it. it makes it hard if you want to do "fancy" things. but the user interface isn't too complicated. and if you just want to see cpu usage and console and set the number of cpu cores and memory it's fine.; | [21:05] | |
| mnathani | virt-manager generates configs that can be manally modified? | [21:08] | |
| mercutio | it's kind of xml
http://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html i find it messy :) but it's consistent messy i suppose. i use xl with xen actually mine looks liek that too mhm for the most part i just copy one config to another and edit the details and clone the partition or create new partition afaik no-ones really got templating done well in a way they've releaed to public. you can download some base images of different distros but they're terrible. you can use debootstrap and do it yourself, but it's not ready to go. like afaik up_the_irons did a lot of his own config for his templates, which means every time there's a new release he has to do more work. | [21:08] | |
| mnathani | do you work with puppet at all? | [21:15] | |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [21:15] | |
| mnathani | BryceBot: no | [21:15] | |
| BryceBot | Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'do you work with puppet at all?' | [21:15] | |
| mercutio | nah
it's one of those things i thought i should look at sometime :) along with ruby etc, and all those other new fancy things. | [21:15] | |
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| brycec | I personally prefer ansible, but my needs are quite modest. | [22:03] | |
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| mercutio | i wonder if there's an overview of all these different sys admin things somewhere
some sysadmin or something blog that talks about things like this could be cool. i'd never even heard of ansible. | [23:24] | |
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| pcn | Do you love ssh more than life itself? Do you love yaml like it's your very own favorite sandal?
Or something like that. It's a pretty good system for handfuls of systems. | [23:50] | |
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