pyvpx: are we on the Sprint network? forgotten: ahh my ears hazardous: pyvpx: i don't get the reference m0unds: hazardous: we get it, you're young brycec: I equate the pin-drop with MCI... maybe I'm mis-remembering m0unds: it was sprint, their logo was the "trail" of a pin dropping for years
that triangular thing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ae2hrsvQYs BryceBot: YouTube People: "Sprint Pin Drop 1987" by 1valvashon (30s), 1,061 views, 1 like and 0 dislikes. Uploaded 2012-02-04T04:49:50.000Z. m0unds: that has the old old old logo, but the more triangular one had some superimposed pin bouncing thing that turns into the logo. can't remember when that was brycec: LOL I'd forgotten the name "US Sprint" m0unds: yeah, hahaha
and that awful typeface
looks like a video game logo from the 80s
err, title
rather -: brycec remembers when long-distance rates were not only a thing, but fluctuated throughout the day
brycec does not miss it brycec: "$8 for an hour of calls" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6qsFWtWNXI BryceBot: YouTube Entertainment: "MCI commercial" by jmtrexler (30s), 2,530 views, 3 likes and 0 dislikes. Uploaded 2008-07-28T19:36:16.000Z. brycec: heh... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJrrCF73r5s BryceBot: YouTube Entertainment: "MCI Commercial with Leonard Nimoy, TOS Cast and Jonathan Frakes" by leony331 (1m 6s), 73,937 views, 790 likes and 2 dislikes. Uploaded 2009-05-03T14:40:07.000Z. -: brycec is done hating himself m0unds: hahahah
nice ***: jcv has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)
jcv has joined #arpnetworks mnathani: what is the typical amount of time after placing a call using a voip service like voip.ms that the phone on the other side starts ringing?
other side is a cellphone (non voip)
the voip.ms pop is 10ms away ***: jbergstroem has quit IRC (Excess Flood) mkb: I've never used voip.me, but through Flowroute it's more or less instant
to call a landline. cell phones usually take a second or two brycec: 2-10 seconds
(my experience with cellphones)
(because I don't have a landline to call) mnathani: takes me around 20 seconds brycec: <1 second from voip.ms to voip.ms in the same pop mercutio: it's about 2 to 4 seconds normally mnathani
but it can depend on interconnect/switching systems a lot
same as with legacy phone, calling some places can take an insane amount of time, and tends to be worse internationally. staticsafe: aye mercutio: bryce: i imagine voip systems are actually quicker than non voip.
in general.
sometimes you hear it changing too
now i have to test it mnathani: there is an SPA3102 connected to an analog phone which uses a voip.ms account << which is originating the call
not sure if that changes anything mercutio: 4 or 5 seconds just now
then 7 or 8 seconds the second time.
wow
that's landline to cell
and going off the ring of cell rather than of phone
3 seconds other way around
but it rung on cell before that
also strangely my cell isn't showing all the callerid information
i wonder if cell being slow is partially because the phone falls asleep ***: jbergstroem has joined #arpnetworks
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jbergstroem has joined #arpnetworks m0unds: calling my voip.ms line via at&t mobility, it rings within 2 seconds of starting the call on my cell
and it rings in my office before i hear the ringing tone on the mobile BryceBot: That's what she said!! m0unds: HAW HAW BRYCEBOT UR SO GUD mnathani: BryceBot: no BryceBot: Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'and it rings in my office before i hear the ringing tone on the mobile' m0unds: same w/flowroute and vitelity mnathani: thats pstn to voip? m0unds: yes mnathani: how about voip to pstn? m0unds: too lazy to get the device and dial out
it's upstairs
i'm 9ms from the pop i use in denver
on voip.ms anyway
17ms to vitelity and similar to flowroute mercutio: m0unds: do you also get longer delay calling cell from voip?
i'd never really paid attention or noticed before m0unds: not that i've noticed
it terminates quickly mnathani: which voip provider has best call quality? mercutio: it was only when i tried :)
mnathani: they're all the same pretty much
ie terrible. m0unds: the codec used on a mobile is likely going to sound shittier than voup mercutio: as long as you use g711 through you're doing the best you can pretty much. m0unds: voip mnathani: I would be willing to pay more for a premium service m0unds: for most networks anyway mercutio: m0unds: exactly.
and everyone uses mobile
skype works way better :) m0unds: tmo and at&t sound ok, sprint and verizon both sound like ass in nm at least mercutio: they're introducing hd voice here, but not between providers :(
i wonder how hd voice to landline would be
or to voip m0unds: that's so lame
i guess it's probably a pain to switch it bw providers vs calls on the same provider
maybe in the future mercutio: well we have 3 mobile providers here and only 2 of them are doing hd voice. brycec: Fun fact: my watch shows the incoming call notification before my phone actually rings, by several seconds. mercutio: yeah i'm hoping. can you do hd voice between providers there? m0unds: brycec: fancy. which watch? brycec: Pebble m0unds: i like the displays on those mercutio: is that a smart watch? brycec: Yes m0unds: i'd have a hard time giving up my beat up old g-shock though mercutio: i kind of read up a bit about smart watches, and they looked like they may be good in the future brycec: (so the call has reached my cell phone, in order to be pushed to my watch, before the phone rings) mercutio: and that the samsung one was pretty good but samsung specific.
how do you find having a smart watch in general? brycec: lol "hdvoice landline" there are technical limitations... mercutio: brycec: well voip.. brycec: (inherent to electrical telephony and the systems built around it) mercutio: brycec: but ther eisn't really.
the codecs better than gsm.
or whatever codec is being used normally
so even if it's terminating at 8k it'll still be better. brycec: There isn't a codec in in landline phones until the wiring is terminated, and by then it's fairly meh
(source: I design telephony equipment at my day job) mercutio: brycec: i'm talknig about the codecs on mobile networks. brycec: But I wasn't :p BryceBot: That's what she said!! brycec: BryceBot: no BryceBot: Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'But I wasn't :p' brycec: mercutio: Smartwatch is pretty handy, I like it a lot. mercutio: BryceBot: well i was trying to say that hd voice should still help, even if terminating on boring old isdn.
uhh what, why does bryce<tab> terminate to the bot grr. brycec: Blame your client :p mercutio: maybe the bot should be called botbryice. brycec: I think that gives the wrong impression m0unds: i get brycec before BryceBot
weechat knows (tm) brycec: I get BryceBot, but then... I am brycec m0unds: you shouldn't be speaking to yourself BryceBot: That's what she said!! brycec: weechat is configurable to tab-complete with whomever spoke recently. mercutio: m0unds: i'm using weechat. m0unds: yea, i think it does it by default mercutio: oh now i get brycec, weird. m0unds: haha mercutio: oh maybe that's what's happening
how do we make bot talk m0unds: i want a big sausage BryceBot: That's what she said!! brycec: BryceBot: o/ BryceBot: o mercutio: BryceBot: brycec: Hi BryceBot BryceBot: Hello to you too, brycec mercutio: yip
you got it brycec: etc mercutio: when brycebot talks most recently it tabl completes to him
and you never know when he'll talk !
where i have the most call quality issues is when hitting ivr systems and going international normally. brycec: s/he/it/ BryceBot: <mercutio> witre i have tit most call quality issues is witn hitting ivr systems and going international normally. mercutio: or otherwise being shit.
haha brycec: lol m0unds: s/tit/bananas mercutio: s/l/s/ BryceBot: <brycec> sos brycec: my point being that BryceBot is an "it" mercutio: with a name like bryce? brycec: it's a name like "BryceBot"
PS "bryce" is an androgynous name, equally male and female m0unds: s/Bryce/Potato BryceBot: <brycec> it's a name like "PotatoBot" mercutio: oh really. i didn't realise that. brycec: lol m0unds you need to move to Boise... mercutio: it's always male around here m0unds: considere dit
considered also brycec: eww, m0unds m0unds: kidding
haha mercutio: interesting
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bryce brycec: mercutio: It's always been male around my house too :P But apparently it's a woman's name too BryceBot: Urban Dictionary: "bryce" bryce
a guy who is excellent in bed, and you are amazed of his capabilities brycec: @ud Bryce BryceBot: Bryce: a guy who is excellent in bed, and you are amazed of his capabilities <2007-11-11T00:00:00+00:00> Example: "That guy last night was a bryce for sure" brycec: @wiki Bryce Dallas Howard BryceBot: Bryce Dallas Howard :: Bryce Dallas Howard (born March 2, 1981) is an American film actress, writer and director. The daughter of director Ron Howard, she made her acting debut in her father's film Parenthood (1989) and went on to have small roles in films and make stage appearances for the next several years. During this time she also attended New York University's Tisch School of... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryce%20Dallas%20Howard mercutio: most names are terrible from memory on ud brycec: @ud mercutio BryceBot: mercutio: The best character in Romeo in Juliet.rMakes fun of Romeo by saying he puts his penis into a woman's vagina. Not literally. Here's the excerpt:rMercutio: Why, is it not this better now than groaning for love? Now art thou sociable, now art thou Romeo, now art thout what thou art, by art as well as by nature. For this driveling love is like a great natural that runs lolling up and down to hide his bauble (penis) in a hole (vagina). <20 brycec: @ud m0unds BryceBot: Error, No definitions could be found for: m0unds -: m0unds is a winner mercutio: @ud mounds BryceBot: mounds: on a woman, the soft pad of fat over the pubic bone, just above the vulva <2003-12-09T00:00:00+00:00> Example: "at the last moment, I pulled it out and ejaculated onto her mound" m0unds: s/winner/something-unflattering BryceBot: >>> m0unds is a something-unflattering m0unds: wonderful
hahaha ***: jlgaddis has joined #arpnetworks mnathani: @ud up_the_irons BryceBot: Error, No definitions could be found for: up_the_irons mnathani: @ud Garry BryceBot: Garry: Racist term for asian migrants living in a western country. rStruggle with the local language with a thick accent. Often use an adopted 'western' first name and use their birth name as a middle name. <2006-04-18T00:00:00+00:00> Example: ""Have you met the new garry's living in our street? Michael and Rebecca Chang are their names"." mnathani: @ud Dolley BryceBot: Dolley: Puttin a girl on a dolley andstaping her down. Doin her and rollin her around the house. <2007-05-05T00:00:00+00:00> Example: "I gave the bitch a dolley and left her out in the garage." mercutio: mnathani: that's the kind of unflattering stuff you expect from ud. JC_Denton: probably a dumb question, but is it possible to get an 8 GB (RAM) VM? or is that crossing into dedi territory? mnathani: JC_Denton: interesting question
I know dedi at ARP start at 8 GB
any reason why you don't want a dedicated box ? brycec: What's more is that a 4GB VPS is $80/mo, an 8GB dedi is $129/mo (plus more disk space, CPU, bw, etc) mnathani: although dedicated the disk is not RAID / redundant by default
VPS disk is on a RAID 10 array brycec: But dedi you can get an SSD
JC_Denton: To build the largest VPS up to 8GB will end up costing you $160/mo ($80 base + 16 * 256MB @ $5/mo), or an 8GB ded is $129/mo. You're probably better off with the dedicate box if you really do need 8GB RAM. ***: up_the_irons has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
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ChanServ sets mode: +o up_the_irons mercutio: JC_Denton: i'd go dedicated with 8gb of ram anyway myself.
then you can get 16gb even ***: Seji has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
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Seji has joined #arpnetworks JC_Denton: yeah, dedi is my current thought - i was just curious though since i had seen some providers with 8 gb VMs mercutio: yaeh some do
usually it's in a hybrid situation for such things
you could probably get it if requesting it
there are certain advantages to vm's.
like if the node has an issue, you don't have to do as much mnathani: you could run your own Virtual Instance on top of the dedicated box, giving you more control and ability to snapshot, clone etc mercutio: that's what i'm doing mnathani ;)
i have xen on arp dedicated. mnathani: kvm?
ahh mercutio: i been using xen for years.
i prefer kvm if having no root
and so i can run openbsd for my personal vm
but if you just want to run virtual machines and have basic node access xen is fine. mnathani: what os is the host mercutio: ubuntu mnathani: or is xen a bare metal hypervisor BryceBot: That's what she said!! mnathani: BryceBot: no BryceBot: Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'or is xen a bare metal hypervisor' ***: meingtsla has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) mercutio: xen is bare metal hypervisor
but you still have dom0
that controls file systems etc
i'm using zfs on linux
i used to use opensolaris/xen with zfs. mnathani: any RAID ? mercutio: 3 hard-disks
i think
yeah 3x1tb.
raid 10 at start of disk
then zfs
in raidz
i'm hardly using any disk space it seems atm. mnathani: is OpenSolaris still maintained / any good? mercutio: you raise your iops with 3 disks.
mnathani: no
mnathani: that's why i'm using linux now.
but before oracle i used opensolaris for a while mnathani: you folllowing the systemd vs init discussion? mercutio: yes
i use arch linux at home
i hate sytemctl but kind of like it BryceBot: That's what she said!! mercutio: it's kind of like saying you like windows. ***: meingtsla has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: or that apple has nice hardware.
systemctl is pretty cool, but it can be damn annnoying.
i still get confused by it ***: hazardous has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) mercutio: i always liked /etc/rc.local myself
and /etc/rc.conf
there's something blaringly obvious about having everything that's happening in a small space.
it's kind of like that feeling when you can look at a perl script and it's only one page
vs one that's 20 pages. ***: hazardous has joined #arpnetworks
mike-burns has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) mercutio: you're not looking for what's relevant, it's right there in front of you.
where systemctl is cool is things like: ***: staticsafe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) mercutio: systemd-analyze blame
and without blame
Startup finished in 3.441s (firmware) + 5.265s (loader) + 2.908s (kernel) + 11.470s (userspace) = 23.085s
i kind of think that things are getting a bit too complicated though. BryceBot: That's what she said!! ***: freedomcode has joined #arpnetworks