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m0unds: gizmoguy: http://www.stonebrewing.com/burningrosids/ this is really good
gizmoguy: sad story :(
but in happier news, I booked flights to LAX for next year
doing a pub crawl around SFO
m0unds: yeah
awesome
gonna fly from lax to sfo?
or drive?
gizmoguy: not sure yet
m0unds: san fransisco is a neat city, haven't been there in a long time
the drive from LA to SF is pretty nice too, but long (6hrs or so without traffic)
brycec: (and 8 if you take the scenic route...)
m0unds: yeah, coastal route is prettier
brycec: (scenic == ^I5)
I drove SEA-LAX (and back) last year, loooong drive
m0unds: eek
my friend rode his motorcycle from vancouver, wa to irvine, ca to albuquerque to salt lake city back to vancouver last year
brycec: It wasn't so bad, had a friend co-driving
m0unds: 3000-someodd miles
brycec: 1,100 each way
or 1200 depending on route
Good times were had
m0unds: did you just burn straight through it or stop to do stuff along the way?
brycec: And it was cool having someone else with me to drive. I'd never pushed my car for so long.
Only stops were for gas
And food
m0unds: oof
i hate doing more than ~500-600mi/day, haha
brycec: Other than that, the car ran and drove for 20-ish hours, I was proud of it :D
m0unds: nice
brycec: Yeah same here. When I moved from AZ to WA, it was three days of driving because I can't drive more than 500-800 without my knee locking up and being very, very painful
Plus staying awake and such
m0unds: yeah, i can't stretch my legs enough in the car (i'm 6'4) so it gets really uncomfortable after about 8 hrs in the car
my truck isn't as bad, but it's still not comfortable past about 8 hrs
brycec: With cruise control, I can find various positions for me legs. But staying alert is a whole other ballgame
m0unds: yeah, and caffiene + fatigue from driving is just all sorts of fun
brycec: Caffeine has limited effect on me. Mostly it ends up killing time with frequent rest stops
gizmoguy: pfft 6 hours is a short drive
-: gizmoguy lives in a country where 8 hour drives aren't that strange
brycec: gizmoguy: You have better scenery I'm betting :PO
* :P
gizmoguy: yeah for sure
m0unds: haha
one of our breweries won best small brewery in the us at GABF
BryceBot: That's what she said!!
brycec: While we're off-topic... When defusing/disarming a bomb using C4, why can't one simply pull the blasting caps out of the C4?
m0unds: not as dramatic
gizmoguy: also i'm in our beer capital this week for work
m0unds: nice
brycec: nice
gizmoguy: I've managed 1 out of 1 night this week drinking
aiming for 5
m0unds: haha
i did a sort of brewery tour while i was up in durango at the end of last week, lots of good beer there too
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/chef-marcus-peter-volke-killed-dismembered-and-cooked-girlfriend-in-teneriffe-apartment/story-fnihsrf2-1227080803355?nk=197db8e38229b86ace5561362f36fe4b
delicious
BryceBot: That's what she said!!
mercutio: gizmoguy: beer capital?
m0unds: one of my fav bands has a new album coming out - they're from napier
mercutio: gizmoguy: is that the normal capital?
gizmoguy: mercutio: wellington
mercutio: nelson has a lot of beer..
but i thought you'd have more reason to be in wellington.
gizmoguy: there's 2 new craft beer bars since I last was here
I was last here in August
mercutio: sounds hip.
m0unds: do you guys get imports, or is it mostly local/domestic?
mercutio: most beer in nz seems to be brewed in nz.
even international beers.
craft may be a bit different though. i don't drink craft beer. :)
my beer all seems to come from auckland.
gizmoguy: mercutio: http://www.hashigozake.co.nz/beerlist.html
here's a good overview of what I have to drink
m0unds: cult beer bar, haha
mercutio: yeah i haven't tried any of them
i've been getting into mac's ginger beer :)
m0unds: ahhh, mikkeller stuff is good
hard to find here
mercutio: these are all pretty expensive :)
m0unds: yeah they are, geez
mercutio: the cheapest is $7.50 for one bottle 300ml.
and normal bottles are 330ml.
m0unds: la chouffe is good
mercutio: and $12.
m0unds: that's close to what i'd spend for a 750ml bottle here in the us
mercutio: US $0.8 to NZ $1 atm
approx
m0unds: yeah, it's about $9 here
mercutio: and our alcohol is heavily taxed
m0unds: chimay red, price is on par
ouch
any type of alcohol, or just spirits?
mercutio: all alcohol.
it's about 60% i think
oh what
it's lower than that
it's only 10% for beer and 38% for spirits apparently.
that makes no sense, because when it went up, things went up by like 10%
$25.476 per litre of alcohol
hmm
m0unds: ah
mercutio: $46.400 per litre of alcohol for spirits
m0unds: that's a bummer
mercutio: so 40% vodka, a litre is like $46/2.5
$18.40
m0unds: i think there's probably taxation built into liquor sales here, but i have no idea what it'd be
mercutio: and it's about $40
maybe a bit more
m0unds: ouch
mercutio: there's also gst at 15%
so it's probably about half the cost in taxes.
m0unds: awful, haha
craft beer drinking at breweries in durango, co last week and my most expensive pint was $4
mercutio: that sounds ok.
i hardly drink anymore anyway.
m0unds: http://brewpubkitchen.com/ this place was good
mercutio: so i suppose it doesn't matter that much spending a little more.
and it's amazing how much tolerance goes down.
m0unds: yeah, haha
brycec: FYI BryceBot can convert currencies ;D
mercutio: i can feel a single beer these days.
brycec: @exch 1 NZD USD
BryceBot: 1 NZD -> 0.77992291241934 USD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:00:41 -0700)
mercutio: you don't need more than two places :)
BryceBot: That's what she said!!
m0unds: http://carverbrewing.com/brewery.html this place was good too; their barrel aged amber tasted like nila wafers
hahaha
brycec: mercutio: Actually in currency trading, you do :P
m0unds: @exchg 31.50 NZD USD
mercutio: i looked at house prices in the US before.. some places are really cheap.. some are more edxpensive than nz though.
m0unds: oh, it doesn't calculate, just base?
mercutio: in trading you might, but not on irc :)
brycec: m0unds: or you failed at typing
m0unds: oh, g
@exch 31.50 NZD USD
BryceBot: 31.50 NZD -> 24.567571741209 USD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:00:41 -0700)
brycec: mercutio: Also the exchange rate is given out to several places, so I just pass it through
mercutio: @exch 4 usd nzd
BryceBot: 4 USD -> 5.128712 NZD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:00:41 -0700)
brycec: because why not
mercutio: bryce: to make it easier to read :)
otherwise you have to calculate that 5.128 is 5.13
m0unds: @exch 211000 USD NZD
brycec: meh, plenty easy imo
BryceBot: 211000 USD -> 270539.558 NZD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:00:41 -0700)
brycec: US housing prices, like many places, vary wildly depending on where you are. A simple single-family residence will typically range from 50k to 500k
m0unds: yea ^ that's my home value
but same thing in ca would probably be half a million
mercutio: m0unds: yteh that's real cheap compared to here
m0unds: 2100 sq ft, quarter acre lot, built in mid 2000s
we bought it as a foreclosure in 2010 for $147500
super low price for the area too
probably the only reason we bought in abq, otherwise we mighta ended up in CO
mercutio: median value is around $740,000 nzd
@exch 740000 nzd usd
BryceBot: 740000 NZD -> 577142.95519031 USD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:00:41 -0700)
m0unds: ouch
mercutio: it's gone up heaps
in 2010 it was more like $540,000
m0unds: wow
mercutio: hmm all the schools near my house are decile 10 for schools, which is the ranking they use to decide how much money the government gives to schools.
so it's a "higher wealth" area.
where decile 1 is lowest.
it generally means that public schools have less resources and ask people to donate stuff etc.
a friend lives somewhere with decile 1 and 2 schools, and average value there is $330,000
@exch 330000 nzd to usd
BryceBot: 330000 NZD -> 257374.56109838 USD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:00:41 -0700)
mercutio: and that's in a cheaper city too.
so yeah, your house is real cheap.. :)
brycec: @exch 740000 nzd usd 2010-06-06
BryceBot: 740000 NZD -> 499674.1989176 USD (as of Sun, 06 Jun 2010 09:00:00 -0700)
brycec: Historical data ^
mercutio: ^^ if you're interested
mercutio: @exch 740000 nzd usd 2014 09 01
BryceBot: 740000 NZD -> 578863.05038925 USD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 23:00:51 -0700)
mercutio: @exch 740000 nzd usd 2014 06 01
BryceBot: 740000 NZD -> 578863.05038925 USD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 23:00:51 -0700)
mercutio: weird it's not that diff
oh
@exch 740000 nzd usd 2014-09-01
BryceBot: 740000 NZD -> 620334.91379021 USD (as of Mon, 01 Sep 2014 16:00:00 -0700)
mercutio: so $50,000 less it's worth now..
well $2k
err $42k
@exch 740000 nzd usd 2014-06-01
BryceBot: 740000 NZD -> 628599.04809717 USD (as of Sun, 01 Jun 2014 16:00:00 -0700)
mercutio: $50k diff from june... the exchange rate does make a diff