gizmoguy: http://www.stonebrewing.com/burningrosids/ this is really good sad story :( but in happier news, I booked flights to LAX for next year doing a pub crawl around SFO yeah awesome gonna fly from lax to sfo? or drive? not sure yet san fransisco is a neat city, haven't been there in a long time the drive from LA to SF is pretty nice too, but long (6hrs or so without traffic) (and 8 if you take the scenic route...) yeah, coastal route is prettier (scenic == ^I5) I drove SEA-LAX (and back) last year, loooong drive eek my friend rode his motorcycle from vancouver, wa to irvine, ca to albuquerque to salt lake city back to vancouver last year It wasn't so bad, had a friend co-driving 3000-someodd miles 1,100 each way or 1200 depending on route Good times were had did you just burn straight through it or stop to do stuff along the way? And it was cool having someone else with me to drive. I'd never pushed my car for so long. Only stops were for gas And food oof i hate doing more than ~500-600mi/day, haha Other than that, the car ran and drove for 20-ish hours, I was proud of it :D nice Yeah same here. When I moved from AZ to WA, it was three days of driving because I can't drive more than 500-800 without my knee locking up and being very, very painful Plus staying awake and such yeah, i can't stretch my legs enough in the car (i'm 6'4) so it gets really uncomfortable after about 8 hrs in the car my truck isn't as bad, but it's still not comfortable past about 8 hrs With cruise control, I can find various positions for me legs. But staying alert is a whole other ballgame yeah, and caffiene + fatigue from driving is just all sorts of fun Caffeine has limited effect on me. Mostly it ends up killing time with frequent rest stops pfft 6 hours is a short drive gizmoguy: You have better scenery I'm betting :PO * :P yeah for sure haha one of our breweries won best small brewery in the us at GABF That's what she said!! While we're off-topic... When defusing/disarming a bomb using C4, why can't one simply pull the blasting caps out of the C4? not as dramatic also i'm in our beer capital this week for work nice nice I've managed 1 out of 1 night this week drinking aiming for 5 haha i did a sort of brewery tour while i was up in durango at the end of last week, lots of good beer there too http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/chef-marcus-peter-volke-killed-dismembered-and-cooked-girlfriend-in-teneriffe-apartment/story-fnihsrf2-1227080803355?nk=197db8e38229b86ace5561362f36fe4b delicious That's what she said!! gizmoguy: beer capital? one of my fav bands has a new album coming out - they're from napier gizmoguy: is that the normal capital? mercutio: wellington nelson has a lot of beer.. but i thought you'd have more reason to be in wellington. there's 2 new craft beer bars since I last was here I was last here in August sounds hip. do you guys get imports, or is it mostly local/domestic? most beer in nz seems to be brewed in nz. even international beers. craft may be a bit different though. i don't drink craft beer. :) my beer all seems to come from auckland. mercutio: http://www.hashigozake.co.nz/beerlist.html here's a good overview of what I have to drink cult beer bar, haha yeah i haven't tried any of them i've been getting into mac's ginger beer :) ahhh, mikkeller stuff is good hard to find here these are all pretty expensive :) yeah they are, geez the cheapest is $7.50 for one bottle 300ml. and normal bottles are 330ml. la chouffe is good and $12. that's close to what i'd spend for a 750ml bottle here in the us US $0.8 to NZ $1 atm approx yeah, it's about $9 here and our alcohol is heavily taxed chimay red, price is on par ouch any type of alcohol, or just spirits? all alcohol. it's about 60% i think oh what it's lower than that it's only 10% for beer and 38% for spirits apparently. that makes no sense, because when it went up, things went up by like 10% $25.476 per litre of alcohol hmm ah $46.400 per litre of alcohol for spirits that's a bummer so 40% vodka, a litre is like $46/2.5 $18.40 i think there's probably taxation built into liquor sales here, but i have no idea what it'd be and it's about $40 maybe a bit more ouch there's also gst at 15% so it's probably about half the cost in taxes. awful, haha craft beer drinking at breweries in durango, co last week and my most expensive pint was $4 that sounds ok. i hardly drink anymore anyway. http://brewpubkitchen.com/ this place was good so i suppose it doesn't matter that much spending a little more. and it's amazing how much tolerance goes down. yeah, haha FYI BryceBot can convert currencies ;D i can feel a single beer these days. @exch 1 NZD USD 1 NZD -> 0.77992291241934 USD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:00:41 -0700) you don't need more than two places :) That's what she said!! http://carverbrewing.com/brewery.html this place was good too; their barrel aged amber tasted like nila wafers hahaha mercutio: Actually in currency trading, you do :P @exchg 31.50 NZD USD i looked at house prices in the US before.. some places are really cheap.. some are more edxpensive than nz though. oh, it doesn't calculate, just base? in trading you might, but not on irc :) m0unds: or you failed at typing oh, g @exch 31.50 NZD USD 31.50 NZD -> 24.567571741209 USD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:00:41 -0700) mercutio: Also the exchange rate is given out to several places, so I just pass it through @exch 4 usd nzd 4 USD -> 5.128712 NZD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:00:41 -0700) because why not bryce: to make it easier to read :) otherwise you have to calculate that 5.128 is 5.13 @exch 211000 USD NZD meh, plenty easy imo 211000 USD -> 270539.558 NZD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:00:41 -0700) US housing prices, like many places, vary wildly depending on where you are. A simple single-family residence will typically range from 50k to 500k yea ^ that's my home value but same thing in ca would probably be half a million m0unds: yteh that's real cheap compared to here 2100 sq ft, quarter acre lot, built in mid 2000s we bought it as a foreclosure in 2010 for $147500 super low price for the area too probably the only reason we bought in abq, otherwise we mighta ended up in CO median value is around $740,000 nzd @exch 740000 nzd usd 740000 NZD -> 577142.95519031 USD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:00:41 -0700) ouch it's gone up heaps in 2010 it was more like $540,000 wow hmm all the schools near my house are decile 10 for schools, which is the ranking they use to decide how much money the government gives to schools. so it's a "higher wealth" area. where decile 1 is lowest. it generally means that public schools have less resources and ask people to donate stuff etc. a friend lives somewhere with decile 1 and 2 schools, and average value there is $330,000 @exch 330000 nzd to usd 330000 NZD -> 257374.56109838 USD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:00:41 -0700) and that's in a cheaper city too. so yeah, your house is real cheap.. :) @exch 740000 nzd usd 2010-06-06 740000 NZD -> 499674.1989176 USD (as of Sun, 06 Jun 2010 09:00:00 -0700) Historical data ^ mercutio: ^^ if you're interested @exch 740000 nzd usd 2014 09 01 740000 NZD -> 578863.05038925 USD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 23:00:51 -0700) @exch 740000 nzd usd 2014 06 01 740000 NZD -> 578863.05038925 USD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 23:00:51 -0700) weird it's not that diff oh @exch 740000 nzd usd 2014-09-01 740000 NZD -> 620334.91379021 USD (as of Mon, 01 Sep 2014 16:00:00 -0700) so $50,000 less it's worth now.. well $2k err $42k @exch 740000 nzd usd 2014-06-01 740000 NZD -> 628599.04809717 USD (as of Sun, 01 Jun 2014 16:00:00 -0700) $50k diff from june... the exchange rate does make a diff