[04:14] *** erratic has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) [04:16] *** erratic has joined #arpnetworks [04:16] *** erratic is now known as Guest49191 [04:37] *** sga0__ has joined #arpnetworks [04:40] *** sga0_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [11:35] *** atmark has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [11:48] *** atmark has joined #arpnetworks [11:48] *** atmark is now known as Guest34299 [14:00] *** gizmoguy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [14:13] *** gizmoguy has joined #arpnetworks [14:13] *** gizmoguy has quit IRC (Client Quit) [14:14] *** gizmoguy has joined #arpnetworks [19:35] gizmoguy: http://www.stonebrewing.com/burningrosids/ this is really good [19:40] sad story :( [19:41] but in happier news, I booked flights to LAX for next year [19:41] doing a pub crawl around SFO [19:41] yeah [19:41] awesome [19:41] gonna fly from lax to sfo? [19:41] or drive? [19:42] not sure yet [19:44] san fransisco is a neat city, haven't been there in a long time [19:45] the drive from LA to SF is pretty nice too, but long (6hrs or so without traffic) [19:52] (and 8 if you take the scenic route...) [19:52] yeah, coastal route is prettier [19:52] (scenic == ^I5) [19:53] I drove SEA-LAX (and back) last year, loooong drive [19:54] eek [19:56] my friend rode his motorcycle from vancouver, wa to irvine, ca to albuquerque to salt lake city back to vancouver last year [19:56] It wasn't so bad, had a friend co-driving [19:56] 3000-someodd miles [19:56] 1,100 each way [19:56] or 1200 depending on route [19:56] Good times were had [19:56] did you just burn straight through it or stop to do stuff along the way? [19:57] And it was cool having someone else with me to drive. I'd never pushed my car for so long. [19:57] Only stops were for gas [19:57] And food [19:57] oof [19:57] i hate doing more than ~500-600mi/day, haha [19:57] Other than that, the car ran and drove for 20-ish hours, I was proud of it :D [19:57] nice [19:58] Yeah same here. When I moved from AZ to WA, it was three days of driving because I can't drive more than 500-800 without my knee locking up and being very, very painful [19:58] Plus staying awake and such [19:59] yeah, i can't stretch my legs enough in the car (i'm 6'4) so it gets really uncomfortable after about 8 hrs in the car [19:59] my truck isn't as bad, but it's still not comfortable past about 8 hrs [19:59] With cruise control, I can find various positions for me legs. But staying alert is a whole other ballgame [20:00] yeah, and caffiene + fatigue from driving is just all sorts of fun [20:01] Caffeine has limited effect on me. Mostly it ends up killing time with frequent rest stops [20:06] pfft 6 hours is a short drive [20:06] * gizmoguy lives in a country where 8 hour drives aren't that strange [20:07] gizmoguy: You have better scenery I'm betting :PO [20:07] * :P [20:07] yeah for sure [20:08] haha [20:09] one of our breweries won best small brewery in the us at GABF [20:09] That's what she said!! [20:09] While we're off-topic... When defusing/disarming a bomb using C4, why can't one simply pull the blasting caps out of the C4? [20:09] not as dramatic [20:09] also i'm in our beer capital this week for work [20:09] nice [20:09] nice [20:09] I've managed 1 out of 1 night this week drinking [20:10] aiming for 5 [20:10] haha [20:10] i did a sort of brewery tour while i was up in durango at the end of last week, lots of good beer there too [20:32] http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/chef-marcus-peter-volke-killed-dismembered-and-cooked-girlfriend-in-teneriffe-apartment/story-fnihsrf2-1227080803355?nk=197db8e38229b86ace5561362f36fe4b [20:33] delicious [20:33] That's what she said!! [20:50] gizmoguy: beer capital? [20:51] one of my fav bands has a new album coming out - they're from napier [20:51] gizmoguy: is that the normal capital? [21:01] mercutio: wellington [21:01] nelson has a lot of beer.. [21:01] but i thought you'd have more reason to be in wellington. [21:02] there's 2 new craft beer bars since I last was here [21:02] I was last here in August [21:02] sounds hip. [21:02] do you guys get imports, or is it mostly local/domestic? [21:03] most beer in nz seems to be brewed in nz. [21:03] even international beers. [21:03] craft may be a bit different though. i don't drink craft beer. :) [21:03] my beer all seems to come from auckland. [21:04] mercutio: http://www.hashigozake.co.nz/beerlist.html [21:04] here's a good overview of what I have to drink [21:05] cult beer bar, haha [21:05] yeah i haven't tried any of them [21:05] i've been getting into mac's ginger beer :) [21:05] ahhh, mikkeller stuff is good [21:05] hard to find here [21:07] these are all pretty expensive :) [21:08] yeah they are, geez [21:09] the cheapest is $7.50 for one bottle 300ml. [21:09] and normal bottles are 330ml. [21:10] la chouffe is good [21:10] and $12. [21:10] that's close to what i'd spend for a 750ml bottle here in the us [21:10] US $0.8 to NZ $1 atm [21:10] approx [21:10] yeah, it's about $9 here [21:10] and our alcohol is heavily taxed [21:11] chimay red, price is on par [21:11] ouch [21:11] any type of alcohol, or just spirits? [21:11] all alcohol. [21:11] it's about 60% i think [21:11] oh what [21:11] it's lower than that [21:12] it's only 10% for beer and 38% for spirits apparently. [21:12] that makes no sense, because when it went up, things went up by like 10% [21:13] $25.476 per litre of alcohol [21:13] hmm [21:14] ah [21:14] $46.400 per litre of alcohol for spirits [21:14] that's a bummer [21:14] so 40% vodka, a litre is like $46/2.5 [21:14] $18.40 [21:14] i think there's probably taxation built into liquor sales here, but i have no idea what it'd be [21:15] and it's about $40 [21:15] maybe a bit more [21:15] ouch [21:15] there's also gst at 15% [21:15] so it's probably about half the cost in taxes. [21:15] awful, haha [21:16] craft beer drinking at breweries in durango, co last week and my most expensive pint was $4 [21:16] that sounds ok. [21:16] i hardly drink anymore anyway. [21:17] http://brewpubkitchen.com/ this place was good [21:17] so i suppose it doesn't matter that much spending a little more. [21:17] and it's amazing how much tolerance goes down. [21:17] yeah, haha [21:17] FYI BryceBot can convert currencies ;D [21:17] i can feel a single beer these days. [21:17] @exch 1 NZD USD [21:17] 1 NZD -> 0.77992291241934 USD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:00:41 -0700) [21:17] you don't need more than two places :) [21:17] That's what she said!! [21:18] http://carverbrewing.com/brewery.html this place was good too; their barrel aged amber tasted like nila wafers [21:18] hahaha [21:18] mercutio: Actually in currency trading, you do :P [21:18] @exchg 31.50 NZD USD [21:18] i looked at house prices in the US before.. some places are really cheap.. some are more edxpensive than nz though. [21:18] oh, it doesn't calculate, just base? [21:18] in trading you might, but not on irc :) [21:18] m0unds: or you failed at typing [21:18] oh, g [21:18] @exch 31.50 NZD USD [21:18] 31.50 NZD -> 24.567571741209 USD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:00:41 -0700) [21:19] mercutio: Also the exchange rate is given out to several places, so I just pass it through [21:19] @exch 4 usd nzd [21:19] 4 USD -> 5.128712 NZD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:00:41 -0700) [21:19] because why not [21:19] bryce: to make it easier to read :) [21:19] otherwise you have to calculate that 5.128 is 5.13 [21:19] @exch 211000 USD NZD [21:19] meh, plenty easy imo [21:19] 211000 USD -> 270539.558 NZD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:00:41 -0700) [21:20] US housing prices, like many places, vary wildly depending on where you are. A simple single-family residence will typically range from 50k to 500k [21:20] yea ^ that's my home value [21:21] but same thing in ca would probably be half a million [21:21] m0unds: yteh that's real cheap compared to here [21:21] 2100 sq ft, quarter acre lot, built in mid 2000s [21:21] we bought it as a foreclosure in 2010 for $147500 [21:21] super low price for the area too [21:22] probably the only reason we bought in abq, otherwise we mighta ended up in CO [21:22] median value is around $740,000 nzd [21:23] @exch 740000 nzd usd [21:23] 740000 NZD -> 577142.95519031 USD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:00:41 -0700) [21:23] ouch [21:23] it's gone up heaps [21:23] in 2010 it was more like $540,000 [21:23] wow [21:24] hmm all the schools near my house are decile 10 for schools, which is the ranking they use to decide how much money the government gives to schools. [21:24] so it's a "higher wealth" area. [21:24] where decile 1 is lowest. [21:25] it generally means that public schools have less resources and ask people to donate stuff etc. [21:26] a friend lives somewhere with decile 1 and 2 schools, and average value there is $330,000 [21:26] @exch 330000 nzd to usd [21:26] 330000 NZD -> 257374.56109838 USD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:00:41 -0700) [21:26] and that's in a cheaper city too. [21:27] so yeah, your house is real cheap.. :) [21:58] @exch 740000 nzd usd 2010-06-06 [21:58] 740000 NZD -> 499674.1989176 USD (as of Sun, 06 Jun 2010 09:00:00 -0700) [21:58] Historical data ^ [21:59] mercutio: ^^ if you're interested [23:37] @exch 740000 nzd usd 2014 09 01 [23:37] 740000 NZD -> 578863.05038925 USD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 23:00:51 -0700) [23:38] @exch 740000 nzd usd 2014 06 01 [23:38] 740000 NZD -> 578863.05038925 USD (as of Mon, 06 Oct 2014 23:00:51 -0700) [23:38] weird it's not that diff [23:38] oh [23:38] @exch 740000 nzd usd 2014-09-01 [23:38] 740000 NZD -> 620334.91379021 USD (as of Mon, 01 Sep 2014 16:00:00 -0700) [23:39] so $50,000 less it's worth now.. [23:39] well $2k [23:39] err $42k [23:39] @exch 740000 nzd usd 2014-06-01 [23:39] 740000 NZD -> 628599.04809717 USD (as of Sun, 01 Jun 2014 16:00:00 -0700) [23:40] $50k diff from june... the exchange rate does make a diff