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up_the_irons: mercutio: everyone is working on upgrading bash and doesn't have time to chat ;)
neish: lol
RandalSchwartz: did that immediately :)
brycec: and immediately again. And again.
twobithacker: I don't suppose anyone has considered working http://guac-dev.org/ into the VPS KVM for arp?
up_the_irons: twobithacker: i haven't had anyone request that iso yet
brycec: up_the_irons: ISO? It's a VNC replacement
And I wholeheartedly back NoVNC :P
mercutio: bash is only on linux systems :/
i was actually surprised how many non-linux systems didn't have bash installed.
cos i use zsh as an interactive shell, and bash is only if you want to run stupid autoconfigure scripts etc.
brycec: That doesn't seem right, "only on"
cygwin installs bash by default, for instance
mercutio: i hate cygwin :)
brycec: i don't care for win, but at least cygwin gives me a cli
mercutio: i think solaris installs it by default too
it depensd if /bin/sh goes to /bin/bash too
i found cygwin painfully slow like 10 years+ ago
then i tried it later, and it was still painfully slow.
brycec: I don't do much, usually just curl stuff, but it's perfectly fine
mercutio: i just use synergy :) shared mouse/keyboard between linux/windows computers
brycec: Doesn't work on a dual-boot machine though :P
(home gaming pc)
mercutio: i did xen on my "home gaming pc" for a while.
jumped to 24gb of ram and it was ok.
using vt-d passthrough for video
up_the_irons: brycec: i stand corrected
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mercutio: but you still need two monitors that way
like i used onboard intel video for linux, and pci-e video card for windows
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mercutio: and then you have to assign some usb ports to windows / linux, and remember which ones they are.. it gets kind of confusing.
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brycec: Probably easier to just dual-boot :P
BryceBot: That's what she said!!
brycec: BryceBot: no
BryceBot: Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'Probably easier to just dual-boot :P'
mercutio: BryceBot: i hardly ever dual boot, and i have linux on it too now :)
but linux doesn't work properly with radeon graphics card.
so the fan spins really quick. at least when using vt-d and passing it through to windows, it'd spin the fan speed down
brycec: How so? (doesn't it work, he says typing on a linux/radeon system)
mercutio: well this system is radeon too, but fanless
the fan boots up at a low-high speed
when windows boots the fan goes slower.
when linux boots it stays at the boot setting
it may be fixed now, it's broken in 3.13 still
brycec: mercutio: Running the binary "catalyst" drivers?
mercutio: nah no binary drivers.
yeah binary may fix it, but it's arch linux.
brycec: Well no wonder :p
So's this, mercutio
mercutio: following arch linux with catalyst is a nightmare.
brycec: AUR ftw
I disagree
mercutio: well when there are new kernels you often find catalyst won't compile.
i suppose i could consider binary drivers.
brycec: As it happens, no I don't find that. :p
BryceBot: That's what she said!!
brycec: Only caveat is that my xorg is locked to an older version, because Catalyst doesn't support the latest
ftw https://aur.archlinux.org/pkgbase/catalyst-total/
(if you weren't already using/tried that)
mercutio: hmm
i think i'm using xorg 1.16
brycec: downgrading is a bitch, but doable
BryceBot: That's what she said!!
mercutio: i have radeon 7850, so it's not newest of the new. it may be supported now.
brycec: BryceBot: no
BryceBot: Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'downgrading is a bitch, but doable'
mercutio: brycebot is being funny
brycec: 6870 on my home system
(no clue what I have here)
mercutio: 6870 may be ok with open source
i have 7770 on my "linux server"
i think that's what it is
no, 7750 ahh
brycec: Might be, but I want the performance and open source tends to fall flat on its face when it came to performance and quad-head
mercutio: which is probably also got fan problems, but fanless
quad head wow :)
i just have two 1440p monitors now, one on each computer.
the cheap ebay things.
brycec: I started with 2x2. Later came to realize that's just more than I can handle, I get too distracted
mercutio: i used to use 3 monitors. i ahve a spare 1920x1200 monitor, but it makes me desk feel crowded.
brycec: But it was an impressive sight to see
mercutio: i was thinking of pivoting it.
brycec: (2x2 23" 1920x1080, collectively 3840x2160)
mercutio: i'll probably end up using it again soon, and just turning it on/off, and setting up kvm or something, and using it to throw up test things or such.
that's only like 1/8th higher reoslution than me?
1440p is a bit of a pita tbh.
you end up with small text in lots of things.
hopefully 4k monitors being cheap now pushes people to add better resolution independance
brycec: (if yours are 2 2560x1440, then you actually have exactly twice my resolution)
3840*2160= 8294400, 5120*1440=7372800
mercutio: oh you've gone back to 2x1080p
and it's not exact..
brycec: I have, but I was doing the math on 4x 1080p monitors
mercutio: yeah
try 2x1440p :)
they're ~$300 USD each
for PLS monitors
brycec: I have a 2560x1440 :D
it's glorious
mercutio: oh
brycec: but that's a different system
so I didn't mention it
BryceBot: That's what she said!!
brycec: BryceBot: no
BryceBot: Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'so I didn't mention it'
brycec: BryceBot: you are terrible and you should feel bad
mercutio: http://www.ebay.com/itm/X-STAR-DP2710-LED-MULTI-27inch-AH-VA-Panel-WQHD-2560x1440-Computer-Monitor-/331180242313?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item4d1be17589
these etc
eek that one says ah-va
i have qx2710 II
brycec: mercutio: I own two of these http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=114&cp_id=11401&cs_id=1130703&p_id=10509&seq=1&format=2 (bought cheaper, yay group buys and bulk discounts)
But neither of them are on my home gaming system
mercutio: interesting
it has vga
brycec: Because who loves stretched 1080p
obviously, I use dl-dvi
mercutio: streteched 1080p?
oh right
brycec: that's vga's limit is 1080p
or something like that
mercutio: yeh i can't even support anything other than 1440p
brycec: think that's its limit
mercutio: i tihnk vga can do 2560x1600
but it gets worse and worse
i did 1920x1440 on a cert once though
crt
so i know it can do more than 1080p
i think vga was defined as up to 2048x1536 in the past.
back in 4:3 dayhs
brycec: heh
mnathani: brycec: Is: 17:30:10 BryceBot | That's what she said!! << a bug with BryceBot ?
or is it more like feature?
brycec: It's a feature
BryceBot: That's what she said!!
brycec: bayesian learning of what's funny/not funny
up_the_irons: indeed, it's a feature and she liked it
brycec: s/funny/what she said/
BryceBot: <brycec> bayesian learning of what's what she said/not what she said
mnathani: +1 for synergy : mercutio, I used to use it A LOT. Now I have a single system with 3 monitors, not so much
brycec: ^ ditto
I used to have 3 towers and a laptop, running 5 monitors, controlled via synergy
mercutio: mnathani: i love it :)
mnathani: I remember using it with OSX and Windows, worked great
then also for some time with Linux and Windows
Its one of those things that could be confused with magic by some folks who aren't in the know
mercutio: heh
it is like magic compared to not having it
BryceBot: That's what she said!!
mercutio: way nicer than using a kvm
brycec: I've deployed it with a few clients and they are convinced it's magic
and it is... until they try and move a window
mercutio: haha
mnathani: Although any really good piece of technology is indistinguishable from magic
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke's_three_laws
BryceBot: Clarke's three laws :: Clarke's Three Laws are three "laws" of prediction formulated by the British writer Arthur C. Clarke. They are: When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible. Any sufficiently...
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zhangxiaobao: Hello, what time zone does this irc server operate in?
RandalSchwartz: Universal!
which irc server?
are you talking about morgan.freenode.net?
the one you're connected to?
and still, if so, why do you care?
zhangxiaobao: I mean, i was looking at the irc logs, and I see all these times, but I don't know what time zone the times are in
RandalSchwartz: Oh, the logs for arp
very likely America/LosAngeles
since that's where arp is based
zhangxiaobao: OK, thank you
brycec: s/sA/s_A/
BryceBot: <RandalSchwartz> very likely America/Los_Angeles
brycec: :P
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RandalSchwartz: oops :)
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