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| erratic | brycec: looked at it the other day
fbsd is looking pretty good these days I like that option for zfs+root I'm still on the fence about zfs's encryption
(gcm vs ccm) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galois/Counter_Mode#Security | [01:41] | |
| BryceBot | Galois/Counter Mode :: Galois/Counter Mode (GCM) is a mode of operation for symmetric key cryptographic block ciphers that has been widely adopted because of its efficiency and performance. GCM throughput rates for state of the art, high speed communication channels can be achieved with reasonable hardware resources. It is an authenticated encryption algorithm designed to provide both data authenticity (integrity) and confidentiality. GCM is... | [01:46] | |
| erratic | I'd like to see the opinion of a cryptography experts analysis of zfs's implementation of both gcm and ccm
From what I understand about it is that its implementation specific and there are weaknesses in how some implementations re-use IV's somebody told me to stick to LUKS but of course you can't really do LUKS with ZFS, you could but it would be dumb also with btrfs still not clear whether or not I can use luks with it and still keep support for things like discard I don't really understand how it works but it would make sense that you probably would lose support for it since luks is a filesystem in and of itself... maybe its more transparent than that you'd at least still have zlib/lzo compression | [01:48] | |
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| erratic | yeah, aes-256-ccm... I guess it defaults to 128. gcm is supposedly a bit faster, and it sounds like you lose the ability to do de-duplication and its also prone to IV weakness
I think I might give zfs+root a try on my laptop | [02:03] | |
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| pyvpx | besides setting up a jail for each IP, anyone know of a quick and dirty way to setup SOCKs proxies bound to more than one IP?
openssh just takes whatever getaddrinfo gives (only the first IP on an interface) | [08:43] | |
| dne | pyvpx: man page says: "-D [bind_address:]port"
eh, forget that, wrong side of the connection ;) | [08:49] | |
| pyvpx | ya ;) | [08:51] | |
| dne | hmmm, the listening port's interface or the outgoing one? | [08:53] | |
| pyvpx | outgoing one
I was thinking netcat, or surely socat could do something for me but I'm too dense/sober to figure it out in time it would seem heh | [08:53] | |
| dne | ssh -o"BindAddress=a.b.c.d" ?
new attempt: ssh -o "BindAddress <IP>" -D <port> .... | [08:55] | |
| pyvpx | hm
ill give that a try in a sec thanks | [09:02] | |
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| m0unds | fun: http://www.cert.org/blogs/certcc/post.cfm?EntryID=206 | [13:43] | |
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| erratic | http://imgur.com/BUj0pAG,YzzoPIy
net neutrality being pissed away fuck the us, I dont care if I have to enlist in the military here I'm getting my citizenship by way of lineage and I'm never going back. | [14:38] | |
| phlux | where are you? | [14:42] | |
| brycec | I fail to see how the images equate to net neutrality being pissed away
Based on the clock, somewhere in Europe | [14:45] | |
| erratic | well for one they're not loading because I'm not connecting from an address that is legit enough
I have to be connecting from a comcast address or some such thing I dont even care | [14:46] | |
| brycec | the Hulu screenshot? Sure, makes sense. | [14:47] | |
| erratic | they're detecting that literally by looking at where the address is allocated though | [14:48] | |
| m0unds | haha, content licensing ftw | [14:48] | |
| brycec | ^ | [14:48] | |
| pyvpx | yeah
the network is neutral. the licensing for content on it however.... | [14:48] | |
| brycec | licensing != net neutrality :p And sure, you connected from an IP [block] that is usually used by foreigners to access content they're not "legally" entitled to. | [14:48] | |
| m0unds | i'd suggest contacting viacom and telling them you don't appreciate the method their partner (hulu) uses to detect your location | [14:48] | |
| erratic | brycec: just forget it
I seriously dont care | [14:49] | |
| m0unds | ok, ocol
s/ocol/cool | [14:49] | |
| erratic | facebook is stupid anyway | [14:49] | |
| BryceBot | <m0unds> ok, cool | [14:49] | |
| m0unds | it sure is | [14:49] | |
| erratic | I only need it for communicating with my aunt so I can get family info for getting my citizenship figured out
if their cdns wont let me connect fine I dont care I dont want to see all of the stupid pictures of cats anyway brycec: it really seems like I have problems with cdns all the time though and I cant help but think that it must be the same sort of thing its a little bit upsetting | [14:49] | |
| staticsafe | sounds like a problem with your ISP | [14:52] | |
| erratic | staticsafe: nooooo
I have a vpn setup in arp and I'm using an address from a /28 that is allocated by arp so arp essentially is my isp | [14:52] | |
| staticsafe | no, not quite | [14:53] | |
| erratic | .. | [14:53] | |
| staticsafe | your transit to the ARP network is also relevant | [14:53] | |
| erratic | how so | [14:54] | |
| staticsafe | you are tunneling your traffic *through* the ARP VM | [14:54] | |
| erratic | ok whats your point | [14:54] | |
| brycec | I see staticsafe's point... but it's not exactly relevant | [14:55] | |
| staticsafe | your connection to the VPN is also as important as ARP connection to the rest of the internet | [14:55] | |
| brycec | Since the traffic is encapsulated, the transit doesn't know "hey, this is CDN traffic, I'm gonna fuck with it.". If it were transit issues, he'd see problems across the board. | [14:55] | |
| acf_ | is it only with images and things? | [14:56] | |
| erratic | its been cdns in general | [14:57] | |
| brycec | "it really seems like I have problems with cdns all the time though" | [14:57] | |
| erratic | and I want to believe its related to the allocation | [14:57] | |
| acf_ | do large files over HTTP work from non-cdn sources usually? | [14:57] | |
| erratic | its a "commercial" IP address because there just HAD to be a distinction | [14:57] | |
| acf_ | I don't think so. I never have had problems with CDNs through arp | [14:58] | |
| staticsafe | i don't believe that is relevant | [14:58] | |
| erratic | acf_: how often are you using it
I use mine exclusively | [14:58] | |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [14:58] | |
| acf_ | over IPv6, every day
over IPv4, somewhat often mostly with wget | [14:58] | |
| erratic | what about 4 | [14:58] | |
| acf_ | do you have a specific example? | [14:59] | |
| erratic | yeah
sec http://imgur.com/BUj0pAG,YzzoPIy and lemme see if the other one is still having issues | [14:59] | |
| acf_ | all the images not loading?
try ifconfig eth0 mtu 1400 | [15:00] | |
| erratic | one will, reprod in seperate browsers
thats a good point I'll have to try that tomorrow | [15:00] | |
| pyvpx | shitty mtu. shitty tunnelling protocol. shitty implementation. shitty conection
all four any combo of all four | [15:01] | |
| acf_ | you should only need to change the mtu on the client machine | [15:02] | |
| brycec | (Good thinking) | [15:02] | |
| erratic | I would think the mtu would make next to no difference
alright lemme try | [15:02] | |
| brycec | on the contrary, if the transit MTU is lower than your local/tunnel MTU, shit gets dropped
erratic: What VPN protocol? | [15:02] | |
| erratic | yeah it makes absolutely no difference | [15:05] | |
| acf_ | I was having this issue with Google over an ARP IPv6 tunnel
I had path mtu detection set up properly and random images and things would never load | [15:06] | |
| erratic | that makes sense | [15:06] | |
| acf_ | but if I set the mtu on the client, everything was fine | [15:06] | |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [15:06] | |
| staticsafe | yeah MTU issues can be easily seen with a tool like Wireshark | [15:06] | |
| acf_ | how is that? | [15:06] | |
| brycec | BryceBot: no | [15:07] | |
| BryceBot | Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'but if I set the mtu on the client, everything was fine' | [15:07] | |
| staticsafe | acf_: you will see retransmissions | [15:07] | |
| acf_ | ok, yeah | [15:07] | |
| m0unds | i'm guessing the hulu thing is based on origin ip ASN or whatever, since they actively prohibit VPS and VPN endpoints | [15:07] | |
| acf_ | for the longest time, Google thought my ARP IPv4 IP was in Australia
you'd think that Google would have the path mtu stuff worked out... I guess there must be something wrong with my configuration, but I can't figure out what packet too big messages appear to be sent properly brycec: you have an IPv6 tunnel to arp, yeah? have you seen any problems recently with Google? for example, I can't access http://www.google.com/intl/en/options/ erratic: looks a lot like a path mtu issue to me maybe try using tcpdump or wireshark like staticsafe said, and see if there are TCP retransmissions all over the palce | [15:08] | |
| brycec | acf_: I have the tunnel setup, but it's not currently used (I never got around to doing the firewall rules and enabling forwarding) | [15:17] | |
| m0unds | i used my arp vps for ipv6 tunneling and did notice lots of quirky v6 behavior on client devices | [15:18] | |
| acf_ | good to hear it's not just me | [15:19] | |
| m0unds | google thought i was in NZ, msft thought i was in NZ | [15:19] | |
| acf_ | maybe it was NZ... it was a long time ago
mercutio's fault? :P | [15:19] | |
| m0unds | i say blame gizmoguy | [15:19] | |
| brycec | Always blame gizmoguy
>.> @last gizmoguy | [15:20] | |
| BryceBot | brycec, I last saw gizmoguy 5 days 9 hours 36 min 42 sec ago joining a channel. | [15:20] | |
| gizmoguy | hello | [15:22] | |
| m0unds | lol | [15:22] | |
| gizmoguy | @last gizmoguy | [15:23] | |
| BryceBot | gizmoguy, umm... O..kay...
BryceBot points at gizmoguy... | [15:23] | |
| m0unds | hah | [15:23] | |
| gizmoguy | gizmoguy turns off his script stealing everyone's traffic
better? | [15:23] | |
| m0unds | yes, thanks
the cat pics are flowing much more freely | [15:23] | |
| staticsafe | s/stealing/routing through NZ | [15:26] | |
| BryceBot | >>> gizmoguy turns off his script routing through NZ everyone's traffic | [15:26] | |
| gizmoguy | NZ is best internet | [15:27] | |
| m0unds | i'm surprised NZ has big enough pipes to handle all these cat pictures
did you guys run up a new bank of modems recently? | [15:27] | |
| gizmoguy | yeah frank just added another cabinet worth | [15:27] | |
| m0unds | good 'ol frank | [15:27] | |
| gizmoguy | and we worked out how to bond them!
so we do 100x 56k now | [15:27] | |
| m0unds | hahahaha | [15:28] | |
| brycec | Bonded PPP really is amazing | [15:28] | |
| gizmoguy | Oh man
I just googled "bonded dialup" http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/517448 | [15:28] | |
| brycec | mlppp | [15:29] | |
| gizmoguy | posted 2006-May-6, 6:47 am | [15:29] | |
| m0unds | that's immediately what i looked for (the date) | [15:29] | |
| gizmoguy | Of course australians were doing this in 2006 | [15:29] | |
| brycec | m0unds: ++
I used to do mlppp dialup back in the 90's | [15:29] | |
| m0unds | especially when i saw *.au
hahaha | [15:29] | |
| brycec | My ISP didn't officially support it, but I tried it one time and it worked... | [15:29] | |
| m0unds | nice | [15:30] | |
| brycec | And since I discovered that, I would run both phone lines overnight :D
brycec had a second line just for Internet/fax | [15:30] | |
| m0unds | just the fax, jack | [15:31] | |
| brycec | (And nowadays I play with bonding T1's, whee) | [15:31] | |
| m0unds | oh boy | [15:32] | |
| brycec | It's hard to justify when the NIC in the same machine does 200x
But fun to goof around with all the same brycec wishes his company made DS3 hardware, then he could have even more fun | [15:32] | |
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| pyvpx | 10x10GE is where the bonding fun is at
;p | [15:55] | |
| brycec | 10GBE hardly fits the criteria of "stupid old-tech tricks" though
No doubt it's fun, but not the same as "hey, let's bond 28 T1's together for some major bandwidth, 1991 style" | [15:58] | |
| erratic | I want to give up computers
theres no easy way to just get rid of them | [16:01] | |
| brycec | except time travel
granted, time travel itself isn't easy. | [16:01] | |
| erratic | yeah
I have this bad habit of trying to solve problems at night when Im about to go to bed and getting really paranoid about shit that really doesn't even matter anyway like this stupid images not loading thing I just got into some huge argument with some recruiter kid which I wouldn't have done otherwise and handed him his ass for no good reason stuff just doesn't even matter computers and phones and tablets are for entertainment and nothing else and tech is a joke. It's a race to see who can spend more money on a startup to produce something that really doesn't do anything to make the world a better place....its just neat and people will pay money for it | [16:02] | |
| mnathani | what are some reputable companies I can partner with to become a domain reseller and provide domain registration se
*services under my brand | [16:07] | |
| erratic | mnathani: I would hope you would consider prq.se
but I dont know about partnering just sell domains and register them with prq | [16:07] | |
| mnathani | starting off with small volume and gradually growing | [16:08] | |
| staticsafe | mnathani: ENOM, Hexonet | [16:08] | |
| erratic | but I seriously like want to end it all because I know there is no escaping this
I cant just not do what I do and I hate the world too, the world is all messed up | [16:10] | |
| mnathani | staticsafe: thanks | [16:11] | |
| erratic | 99% sure theres nothing I want to live for but I cant just kill myself
I wish I could get past it and people tell me I shouldn't and that would be bad etc so I try to enjoy what little I can and that seems to always disappoint me always back in the same place wanting to end it people will always in some capacity be stupid, careless, or selfish whether they mean to or not. I'm guilty of it as well and I'm not sure whats worse. I hate it I can't come to terms with it and its clouding my judgement and I should probably just go to sleep anyway erratic & | [16:12] | |
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| phlux | do any of you ever get bored and install different desktop environments/window managers just to change it up for a week or two?
or am I alone in this | [16:47] | |
| RandalSchwartz | not really possible with OSX. :) | [16:56] | |
| acf_ | I tried that once...
but I felt like nothing compared to Xfce really have any suggestions? | [16:57] | |
| phlux | well
I always go back to my i3 | [16:59] | |
| up_the_irons | phlux: i think toeshred does | [17:00] | |
| phlux | http://img.phluxbox.com/screenshots/song1y.png there's my i3 | [17:01] | |
| acf_ | how do tiling window managers compare? | [17:01] | |
| phlux | I'm more productive on one
phlux shrugs | [17:01] | |
| up_the_irons | phlux: i, for one, never do this, although it sounds nice. i just can't give work without xmonad | [17:01] | |
| phlux | right now I'm playing around with KDE4 for kicks | [17:01] | |
| acf_ | I always have tons of windows open
and I tab between them | [17:01] | |
| up_the_irons | phlux: i wanted to see your conky config | [17:01] | |
| phlux | up_the_irons: I still have to get you that phone number. The best people to contact out there are the Auxiliary.
OH YEAH | [17:01] | |
| acf_ | can you do that on tiling window managers easliy? | [17:01] | |
| up_the_irons | and i3status or i3bar or w/e it is | [17:02] | |
| phlux | acf_: yes, i3 is perfect for that
in that screenshot, I have 3 windows over on the right that I tab between The one on the left remains constant one second, up_the_irons | [17:02] | |
| up_the_irons | phlux: it's OK, been so busy lately, hard to volunteer. it still seems worth it to have a contact "on the inside" to help with the process when i'm ready. unless you think i should just call the general number of USCG Auxiliary and take it from there ;) | [17:03] | |
| phlux | up_the_irons: you could certainly do that, but I've got someone on the inside there
I need to find a decent pastebin !pastebin | [17:04] | |
| up_the_irons | phlux: my status bar is blank right now, after migrating to my T520. would love to get a status bar like yours ;) | [17:04] | |
| phlux | brycec: pastebin
er BryceBot: pastebin -_- sprunge it is | [17:04] | |
| up_the_irons | phlux: ah yeah, see it seems better to just contact someone on the inside :)
sprunge rocks | [17:04] | |
| phlux | msg'd it to you
i'm too lazy to check it for passwords atm i trust you :P | [17:12] | |
| brycec | phlux: ? | [17:13] | |
| phlux | brycec: I was meaning to highlight your bot and ask it about pastebins
but NEVER MIND NOW | [17:13] | |
| brycec | phlux: "ask it about" not sure what kind of info you're looking for from BryceBot | [17:13] | |
| phlux | I thought it had infobot capabilities? | [17:13] | |
| brycec | explain | [17:14] | |
| acf_ | 17:13 < BryceBot> http://pastebin.com/ | [17:14] | |
| phlux | ^ | [17:14] | |
| toeshred | phlux: i've tried pretty much all the DE's and WM's (except maybe a few obscure ones like bspwm). i3 is my favorite. i like your i3 status. this is my i3 + weechat: http://i.imgur.com/eVn68jR.jpg | [17:15] | |
| phlux | brycec: 19:14:28 phlux │ pb: brycec is my fran
19:14:29 pb │ phlux: The operation succeeded. 19:14:32 phlux │ pb: brycec? 19:14:33 pb │ brycec is my fran | [17:15] | |
| brycec | phlux: (and now acf_) So what, it just burps out a url? | [17:15] | |
| phlux | goot example there | [17:15] | |
| brycec | ?
Oh I see what you're trying to demonstrate weird | [17:15] | |
| up_the_irons | toeshred: i like that you're playing 'Maiden in that upper right window | [17:16] | |
| phlux | Nice, toeshred. You're making me want to get on my desktop...with a bigger monitor :|
My laptop feels so small now | [17:16] | |
| m0unds | hahaha | [17:16] | |
| toeshred | up_the_irons: i've been getting a craving for metal lately. | [17:18] | |
| up_the_irons | haha | [17:18] | |
| RandalSchwartz | I'm typing on 1920x1280...
a relic 17-inch macbook pro | [17:18] | |
| brycec | btw phlux Weechat released 1.0 a little bit ago (from your i3 screenshot)
granted I see the date in that screenshot now... | [17:19] | |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [17:19] | |
| brycec | BryceBot: no | [17:19] | |
| BryceBot | Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'granted I see the date in that screenshot now...' | [17:19] | |
| phlux | lol | [17:20] | |
| RandalSchwartz | that's some kind of date!
hmm. not trigging or is it only if you? | [17:23] | |
| brycec | that's some kind of date!
twss? | [17:23] | |
| BryceBot | That was 61.33% what she said. 'that's some kind of date!' | [17:23] | |
| RandalSchwartz | threshold have to be higher? | [17:24] | |
| brycec | 96%
Otherwise inane sentences like this would trigger, and there's nothing funny about this. twss? | [17:24] | |
| BryceBot | That was 58.35% what she said. 'Otherwise inane sentences like this would trigger, and there's nothing funny about this.' | [17:25] | |
| m0unds | s/about this/potatoes | [17:27] | |
| BryceBot | <brycec> Otherwise inane sentences like this would trigger, and there's nothing funny potatoes. | [17:27] | |
| m0unds | nothing funny potatoes, indeed | [17:27] | |
| brycec | twss? | [17:27] | |
| BryceBot | That was 9.03% what she said. 'nothing funny potatoes, indeed' | [17:27] | |
| brycec | So un-funny | [17:28] | |
| m0unds | how about just potatoes? | [17:28] | |
| brycec | probably 50%
potatoes twss? | [17:28] | |
| BryceBot | That was 6.52% what she said. 'potatoes' | [17:28] | |
| brycec | ouch | [17:28] | |
| m0unds | shiver me dingus | [17:28] | |
| brycec | twss? | [17:29] | |
| BryceBot | That was 50% what she said. 'shiver me dingus' | [17:29] | |
| m0unds | ...how on earth?
hahahah | [17:29] | |
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| up_the_irons | oh man
twss? | [17:49] | |
| BryceBot | That was 50% what she said. 'oh man' | [17:49] | |
| RandalSchwartz | half of what she said
the other half might be something odd | [17:49] | |
| up_the_irons | lol
twss? | [17:49] | |
| BryceBot | That was 50% what she said. 'lol' | [17:49] | |
| up_the_irons | <3 BryceBot
<3 twss? | [17:50] | |
| BryceBot | That was 50% what she said. ' | [17:50] | |
| up_the_irons | haha | [17:50] | |
| brycec | (That was weird) | [17:50] | |
| m0unds | twss? | [17:52] | |
| BryceBot | That was 75.04% what she said. '(That was weird)' | [17:52] | |
| brycec | I like it hard
twss? | [17:53] | |
| BryceBot | That was 50% what she said. 'I like it hard' | [17:53] | |
| brycec | Oh come on, BryceBot, you know better | [17:53] | |
| RandalSchwartz | she likes it semi-hard :) | [17:53] | |
| m0unds | I like it flaccid
twss? | [17:53] | |
| BryceBot | That was 50% what she said. 'I like it flaccid' | [17:53] | |
| up_the_irons | omg | [17:56] | |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [17:56] | |
| up_the_irons | yup | [17:56] | |
| brycec | omg | [17:56] | |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [17:56] | |
| brycec | twss? | [17:56] | |
| BryceBot | That was 96.51% what she said. 'omg' | [17:56] | |
| up_the_irons | hahahahaha | [17:56] | |
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| up_the_irons | twss | [21:50] | |
| BryceBot | Okay! twss! 'hahahahaha' | [21:50] | |
| up_the_irons | twss? | [21:50] | |
| BryceBot | That was 88.46% what she said. 'hahahahaha' | [21:50] | |
| up_the_irons | that's what i thought
BryceBot BryceBot is hung like a horse twss? | [21:50] | |
| BryceBot | That was 90.97% what she said. 'BryceBot is hung like a horse' | [21:50] | |
| up_the_irons | oh BryceBot ... | [21:50] | |
| brycec | you just can't get enough
twss | [21:52] | |
| BryceBot | Okay! twss! 'you just can't get enough' | [21:52] | |
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| bellows | I need some router advice. The router I have now is doing weird stuff and I was wondering if I should buy a new one or get one though the cable company that will be free but have to pay $5 a month for Wireless Router Maintenance(FREE ROUTER). Which way would be better? | [23:29] | |
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