[01:37] RandalSchwartz: we do freebsd 10 with virtio, by default [01:37] mnathani: it tends to do the job. v6 traffic is still pretty low. [02:15] *** pyvpx has joined #arpnetworks [04:44] cool...when I get to 10, that'll be nice. [05:11] Ooh. That's a reason to upgrade. [06:38] so ipv4 is routed with actual routers then? [06:42] Cisco 6500 with a Sup720-3BXL. [08:28] hey i have kind of a stupid network question [08:28] actually hold on, brb [08:38] https://gist.github.com/anonymous/74492b16f2373448639d [08:38] Error fetching information for https://gist.github.com/anonymous/74492b16f2373448639d: Request timed out [08:40] the computer that has 206.125.168.69 is masqueraded and also has a route into the 172.16.40/0 network hence I'm able to ping it and should in theory be able to use it as a masqueraded gateway if I can set it as the default route [08:40] and I thought I've seen ISPs setup shit this way before where you used an upstream router as the default gateway but I guess I could be wrong about that [08:41] Im wondering if the client's hosts netmask has something to do with it [08:42] erratic: if i understand that correctly, your client is not directly connected to .69. thus you cannot use it as the default gw [08:42] oooo! [08:42] I just got it to work [08:42] lol [08:43] sort of! [08:43] ifconfig eth0 172.16.40.2 netmask 128.0.0.0 [08:43] route add -net 206.125.168.68 netmask 255.255.255.252 gw 172.16.40.1 [08:43] route add default gw 206.125.168.69 [08:43] ^ worked [08:43] but [08:44] well i mean it allowed me to do that, it doesn't work [08:44] not sure why, will check in a min [08:44] that netmask is bogus [08:45] i mean the 128.0.0.0 one [08:46] i means that half of the internet is in the same network as 172.16.40.2 [09:07] yeah I'm never doing that again [09:08] it fucked up something with the virtual switch and now networking doesn't work at all lol [09:08] RIP [09:12] wow, yeah it really messed it up [09:12] I wonder what happened [09:19] RIP hypervisor [09:20] actually now that I think of it I think my boss managed to screw up a hypervisor I had setup like this [09:20] so i guess I should keep it on [09:20] so I can figure out whats actually going on [09:21] this is annoying [09:21] I have a virbr (host-only) that won't work now because of something I did, neither shutting down the VMs and the virbr network is fixing it [09:43] That still requires host support, correct? And as I recall, kvr02 is pretty old, predating that support. │01:36:31 @up_the_irons | RandalSchwartz: we do freebsd 10 with virtio, by default [09:46] erratic: Like ant said, your default route must be your next-hop, meaning something you are "directly" attached to (within the same subnet as the interface's address). [09:48] You'll either need to tunnel/vpn to that network, adding an additional interface on your box with an address within that subnet (eg tun0, or a gif tunnel), or set to route traffic from 172.16.40.2 through 206.125.168.69 [09:49] And as is often the case in these overly-complicated scenarios... What exactly are you trying to accomplish? [09:49] brycec: not disputing that anymore I came to terms with it already [09:49] lol [09:50] I have some other things that are kinda broken atm [09:51] I imagine declaring half the Internet can be found on your host would break some things, yes :p (Thankfully, not a BGP announce) [09:51] going to eat, bbiab [10:01] * RandalSchwartz waits for erratic to return [10:02] s/$/ with food for everybody/ [10:02] >>> RandalSchwartz waits for erratic to return with food for everybody [10:09] *** qbit has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [10:21] mhoran: phew, i'm glad arp isn't routing ipv4 through anything but dedicated networking hardware [10:37] mus1cbox: fwiw there is a hardware router for v6, but since the current router is still doing just fine, ARP keeps using that [10:38] s/i/potatos [10:38] mus1cbox: fwpotatosw there potatoss a hardware router for v6, but spotatosnce the current router potatoss stpotatosll dopotatosng just fpotatosne, ARP keeps uspotatosng that [10:39] -.- [10:39] and i always spell potatoes wrong [10:49] s/potatoes/tomatoes/ [10:49] and i always spell tomatoes wrong [10:51] BryceBot is the best [10:51] s/b/w/ [10:51] BryceBot is the west [10:52] *West [10:53] (proper noun) [10:56] potatoes is correct [11:07] *** qbit has joined #arpnetworks [11:07] *** qbit is now known as Guest54650 [11:09] *** Guest54650 is now known as qbit [11:47] so uncertain of name! [11:48] maybe simultaeously both :) [12:00] mus1cbox: look at my command, i spelled it potatos [12:01] s/o/potatoes [12:01] mus1cbpotatoesx: lpotatoespotatoesk at my cpotatoesmmand, i spelled it ppotatoestatpotatoess [12:02] it's spelled potatoes [12:14] i know it is [12:14] and i spelled it wrong the first time [12:14] and then i corrected it the second time [12:14] which is why i said "i keep spelling it wrong" [12:14] because i did [12:15] s/did/do [12:15] because i do [14:51] *** m0unds has quit IRC (Quit: argh) [14:51] potatoes [14:52] s/./potatoes/ [14:52] potatoespotatoespotatoespotatoespotatoespotatoespotatoespotatoes [15:05] *** m0unds has joined #arpnetworks [16:26] up_the_irons: does the openbsd vps that does all ipv6 routing have separate interfaces for each VLAN it routes traffic for, or does it have a single trunk interface and splits the VLans / does the routing accordingly? I have never used OpenBSD for IPv6 routing before. [16:27] single trunk interface [16:27] openbsd supports a vlan sub-interface / virtual interface, which is where the traffic is split off [16:28] ie em0_vlan1 [16:29] Much the same as Linux does eth0.1 [16:30] Does Windows support VLAN interfaces? It occurs to me I've never noticed an option to set that up (whereas I know exactly how in BSD, Linux, and even OSX) [16:36] i think it's driver-dependent [16:36] modern intel chipsets support vlan tagging on windows if you elect to install adv network svcs iirc [16:38] someone brought bags of lays "special flavor" potato chips - wasabi ginger, mango salsa and...cappucino [16:50] *** tellnes has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [16:56] *** tellnes has joined #arpnetworks [17:32] lol [18:07] ugh. lays. carbs, but worse.. cooked in bad oils. [18:07] soy, canola, corn oil. avoid at all costs. [18:11] i worry less about the oil and more about the flavorants, tbh [18:12] tbh ? [18:12] to be honest [18:12] oh [18:12] well - the oils are still bad too. [18:12] i can't find their damned nutritional stuff or ingredient statements [18:13] ... http://authoritynutrition.com/6-reasons-why-vegetable-oils-are-toxic/ [18:14] anything in moderation isn't going to kill you - i can find studies that says coconut oil is terrible for you, but it doesn't mean that it's bad in any quantity [18:15] shards of broken glass in moderation will indeed kill you [18:15] I detest "in moderation" as a qualifier [18:16] since it leaves unspoken what "moderation" means for each item. [18:17] * m0unds isn't a nutritionist [18:17] carbs above 100g/day would be considered by most "in moderation", and yet much recent evidence points to that being causitive (for most normal people) of metabolic syndrome. [18:17] I'm not formally trained in nutrition, but I'm not formally trained in programming either. :) [18:34] i'd assume moderation would meant "not significantly more of something than something else" e.g. eating an apple is great, eating 5 apples isn't so great; using coconut oil as a cooking oil is great, eating 5TBsp of it a day isn't [18:35] eating glass will probably hurt you, but if you're eating glass...well...good luck? [18:37] fear of coconut oil is derived from a fear of saturated fats [18:37] that has since been discounted [18:37] so coconut oil has a *lot* of useful properties. I put a teaspoon in my morning tea. [18:42] ... http://authoritynutrition.com/top-10-evidence-based-health-benefits-of-coconut-oil/ [19:06] i don't have anything against it, i use it regularly [19:07] little disingenuous for that dude to talk about the metabolic byproducts of it as an antimicrobial agent when the study he's citing used it topically [19:08] oh well [19:08] compared to most bloggers, he's a lot better source though [19:09] since he's pretty good at citing studies. [19:09] my position is from synthesizing about 150 blogs, many by doctors who are challenging the status quo. [19:57] *** CESSMASTER has joined #arpnetworks [20:22] *** CESSMASTER has left [22:16] *** m0unds has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [22:21] *** m0unds has joined #arpnetworks [22:21] stupid freenode [22:23] redundant redundancy [22:26] dept of redundancy dept, welcome, welcome [23:24] RandalSchwartz: http://www.columbia.edu/~fdc/utf8/index.html#glass