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| up_the_irons | RandalSchwartz: we do freebsd 10 with virtio, by default
mnathani: it tends to do the job. v6 traffic is still pretty low. | [01:37] |
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| RandalSchwartz | cool...when I get to 10, that'll be nice. | [04:44] |
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| mhoran | Ooh. That's a reason to upgrade. | [05:11] |
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| mus1cbox | so ipv4 is routed with actual routers then? | [06:38] |
| mhoran | Cisco 6500 with a Sup720-3BXL. | [06:42] |
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| erratic | hey i have kind of a stupid network question
actually hold on, brb | [08:28] |
| https://gist.github.com/anonymous/74492b16f2373448639d | [08:38] | |
| BryceBot | Error fetching information for https://gist.github.com/anonymous/74492b16f2373448639d: Request timed out | [08:38] |
| erratic | the computer that has 206.125.168.69 is masqueraded and also has a route into the 172.16.40/0 network hence I'm able to ping it and should in theory be able to use it as a masqueraded gateway if I can set it as the default route
and I thought I've seen ISPs setup shit this way before where you used an upstream router as the default gateway but I guess I could be wrong about that Im wondering if the client's hosts netmask has something to do with it | [08:40] |
| ant | erratic: if i understand that correctly, your client is not directly connected to .69. thus you cannot use it as the default gw | [08:42] |
| erratic | oooo!
I just got it to work lol sort of! ifconfig eth0 172.16.40.2 netmask 128.0.0.0 route add -net 206.125.168.68 netmask 255.255.255.252 gw 172.16.40.1 route add default gw 206.125.168.69 ^ worked but well i mean it allowed me to do that, it doesn't work not sure why, will check in a min | [08:42] |
| ant | that netmask is bogus
i mean the 128.0.0.0 one i means that half of the internet is in the same network as 172.16.40.2 | [08:44] |
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| erratic | yeah I'm never doing that again
it fucked up something with the virtual switch and now networking doesn't work at all lol RIP wow, yeah it really messed it up I wonder what happened | [09:07] |
| RIP hypervisor
actually now that I think of it I think my boss managed to screw up a hypervisor I had setup like this so i guess I should keep it on so I can figure out whats actually going on this is annoying I have a virbr (host-only) that won't work now because of something I did, neither shutting down the VMs and the virbr network is fixing it | [09:19] | |
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| brycec | That still requires host support, correct? And as I recall, kvr02 is pretty old, predating that support. │01:36:31 @up_the_irons | RandalSchwartz: we do freebsd 10 with virtio, by default
erratic: Like ant said, your default route must be your next-hop, meaning something you are "directly" attached to (within the same subnet as the interface's address). You'll either need to tunnel/vpn to that network, adding an additional interface on your box with an address within that subnet (eg tun0, or a gif tunnel), or set to route traffic from 172.16.40.2 through 206.125.168.69 And as is often the case in these overly-complicated scenarios... What exactly are you trying to accomplish? | [09:43] |
| erratic | brycec: not disputing that anymore I came to terms with it already | [09:49] |
| brycec | lol | [09:49] |
| erratic | I have some other things that are kinda broken atm | [09:50] |
| brycec | I imagine declaring half the Internet can be found on your host would break some things, yes :p (Thankfully, not a BGP announce) | [09:51] |
| erratic | going to eat, bbiab | [09:51] |
| RandalSchwartz | RandalSchwartz waits for erratic to return | [10:01] |
| brycec | s/$/ with food for everybody/ | [10:02] |
| BryceBot | >>> RandalSchwartz waits for erratic to return with food for everybody | [10:02] |
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| mus1cbox | mhoran: phew, i'm glad arp isn't routing ipv4 through anything but dedicated networking hardware | [10:21] |
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| brycec | mus1cbox: fwiw there is a hardware router for v6, but since the current router is still doing just fine, ARP keeps using that | [10:37] |
| m0unds | s/i/potatos | [10:38] |
| BryceBot | <brycec> mus1cbox: fwpotatosw there potatoss a hardware router for v6, but spotatosnce the current router potatoss stpotatosll dopotatosng just fpotatosne, ARP keeps uspotatosng that | [10:38] |
| brycec | -.- | [10:39] |
| m0unds | and i always spell potatoes wrong | [10:39] |
| RandalSchwartz | s/potatoes/tomatoes/ | [10:49] |
| BryceBot | <m0unds> and i always spell tomatoes wrong | [10:49] |
| staticsafe | BryceBot is the best | [10:51] |
| RandalSchwartz | s/b/w/ | [10:51] |
| BryceBot | <staticsafe> BryceBot is the west | [10:51] |
| brycec | *West
(proper noun) | [10:52] |
| mus1cbox | potatoes is correct | [10:56] |
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| RandalSchwartz | so uncertain of name!
maybe simultaeously both :) | [11:47] |
| m0unds | mus1cbox: look at my command, i spelled it potatos
s/o/potatoes | [12:00] |
| BryceBot | <m0unds> mus1cbpotatoesx: lpotatoespotatoesk at my cpotatoesmmand, i spelled it ppotatoestatpotatoess | [12:01] |
| mus1cbox | it's spelled potatoes | [12:02] |
| m0unds | i know it is
and i spelled it wrong the first time and then i corrected it the second time which is why i said "i keep spelling it wrong" because i did s/did/do | [12:14] |
| BryceBot | <m0unds> because i do | [12:15] |
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| mus1cbox | potatoes | [14:51] |
| brycec | s/./potatoes/ | [14:52] |
| BryceBot | <mus1cbox> potatoespotatoespotatoespotatoespotatoespotatoespotatoespotatoes | [14:52] |
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| mnathani | up_the_irons: does the openbsd vps that does all ipv6 routing have separate interfaces for each VLAN it routes traffic for, or does it have a single trunk interface and splits the VLans / does the routing accordingly? I have never used OpenBSD for IPv6 routing before. | [16:26] |
| up_the_irons | single trunk interface
openbsd supports a vlan sub-interface / virtual interface, which is where the traffic is split off | [16:27] |
| brycec | ie em0_vlan1
Much the same as Linux does eth0.1 Does Windows support VLAN interfaces? It occurs to me I've never noticed an option to set that up (whereas I know exactly how in BSD, Linux, and even OSX) | [16:28] |
| m0unds | i think it's driver-dependent
modern intel chipsets support vlan tagging on windows if you elect to install adv network svcs iirc someone brought bags of lays "special flavor" potato chips - wasabi ginger, mango salsa and...cappucino | [16:36] |
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| mus1cbox | lol | [17:32] |
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| RandalSchwartz | ugh. lays. carbs, but worse.. cooked in bad oils.
soy, canola, corn oil. avoid at all costs. | [18:07] |
| m0unds | i worry less about the oil and more about the flavorants, tbh | [18:11] |
| RandalSchwartz | tbh ? | [18:12] |
| m0unds | to be honest | [18:12] |
| RandalSchwartz | oh
well - the oils are still bad too. | [18:12] |
| m0unds | i can't find their damned nutritional stuff or ingredient statements | [18:12] |
| RandalSchwartz | ... http://authoritynutrition.com/6-reasons-why-vegetable-oils-are-toxic/ | [18:13] |
| m0unds | anything in moderation isn't going to kill you - i can find studies that says coconut oil is terrible for you, but it doesn't mean that it's bad in any quantity | [18:14] |
| RandalSchwartz | shards of broken glass in moderation will indeed kill you
I detest "in moderation" as a qualifier since it leaves unspoken what "moderation" means for each item. | [18:15] |
| m0unds | m0unds isn't a nutritionist | [18:17] |
| RandalSchwartz | carbs above 100g/day would be considered by most "in moderation", and yet much recent evidence points to that being causitive (for most normal people) of metabolic syndrome.
I'm not formally trained in nutrition, but I'm not formally trained in programming either. :) | [18:17] |
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| m0unds | i'd assume moderation would meant "not significantly more of something than something else" e.g. eating an apple is great, eating 5 apples isn't so great; using coconut oil as a cooking oil is great, eating 5TBsp of it a day isn't
eating glass will probably hurt you, but if you're eating glass...well...good luck? | [18:34] |
| RandalSchwartz | fear of coconut oil is derived from a fear of saturated fats
that has since been discounted so coconut oil has a *lot* of useful properties. I put a teaspoon in my morning tea. | [18:37] |
| ... http://authoritynutrition.com/top-10-evidence-based-health-benefits-of-coconut-oil/ | [18:42] | |
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| m0unds | i don't have anything against it, i use it regularly
little disingenuous for that dude to talk about the metabolic byproducts of it as an antimicrobial agent when the study he's citing used it topically oh well | [19:06] |
| RandalSchwartz | compared to most bloggers, he's a lot better source though
since he's pretty good at citing studies. my position is from synthesizing about 150 blogs, many by doctors who are challenging the status quo. | [19:08] |
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| m0unds | stupid freenode | [22:21] |
| brycec | redundant redundancy | [22:23] |
| m0unds | dept of redundancy dept, welcome, welcome | [22:26] |
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| ant | RandalSchwartz: http://www.columbia.edu/~fdc/utf8/index.html#glass | [23:24] |
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