damnit, now i'm getting lag issues mercutio: have you any experience with ISDN? acf_: not in years acf: who uses isdn these days? acf: isdn doesn't usually do modem compression, so you want ppp soft compression, or to use ssh compression or whatever :) 64kbit is hell slow but it's still slightly better than dialup mercutio: 128k with both channels I understand that ISDN was a lot more popular here in Europe than in the USA (and still is, for people who need multi-channel voice and haven't gone to VoIP yet) http://shirt.woot.com/offers/stack-overflow radio stations still use ISDNs actually, we have some too - wide area progressive slot telemetry. one isdn per bank of waps. used to run on dial up, haha plett: yeh, there is dual channel, it still sucks though :) Better than dialup :p sga0: hows your netflix stream? neish, i don't do netflix has anyone upgraded from fbsd 8 to 10 using freebsd-update? I've done 8->9 (years ago) and then 9->10 (recently), same box smooth upgrade? 9-10 was easy here ports build took a while (naturally) but other than that, it was uneventful yeah i expect rebuilding all ports would take some time i have some old hw with a fw running on it Yeah 9-10 had no issues. I'd already switched to pkgng months before too. wont boot from usb, and not sure if the cd drive is functional (I don't remember 8-9) id like to do a fresh install of 10 but if not just checking my options 9 to 10 is easy? good to hear Oh wait, I have to go 8.4 to 9