[05:29] *** RandalSchwartz has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [05:30] *** dangel_ has joined #arpnetworks [05:31] *** anis has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [05:31] *** dangel has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [05:31] *** anis has joined #arpnetworks [06:30] *** novae has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [06:34] *** novae has joined #arpnetworks [07:54] *** novae has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [07:59] *** novae has joined #arpnetworks [08:30] *** dne has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [08:30] *** dne has joined #arpnetworks [08:48] missed that video you linked staticsafe - good stuff. the mass effect 3 music is always good, haha [09:24] *** NiTeMaRe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:14] *** Guest22234 is now known as pjs [12:08] up_the_irons: Centos7 has been announced. I know you mentioned being low on disk space for the mirror [12:10] Is there a question there? :P [12:17] brycec: no, just a heads up [12:45] ok tnx [12:51] phlux1: i want to see your conky / i3bar config :) [13:27] jpalmer: Yeah it came up at the time. I was razzin' up_the_irons for *still* not having a Debian mirror. up_the_irons mentioned the disk space woes, so I suggested that centos could be removed (they have a complex mirroring structure that doesn't lend itself as well to local mirroring as other distros). And then someone (maybe you?) brought up the just-released CentOS 7 [15:18] brycec: I dunno man, I think the centos mirror is pretty easy to replicate. "rsync" and done [15:20] *** jlgaddis has joined #arpnetworks [15:22] jpalmer: brycec : yeah we don't do anything but a simple rsync [15:27] I meant that it's a bit of a pain to override the mirrorlist [15:27] Probably easier for ARP since you have an image [15:28] But I work with networks that have to transparently cache. [15:29] And if I don't intercept the mirrorlist and fill in my own mirrors, then I'm dealing with a gazillion different hostnames [15:30] (Whereas with Apt, it has a sane default, the same thing, every time. [15:30] ) [15:30] brycec: I'm not sure I follow. you uncomment one line, and comment out the other? [15:31] IMO, I think a mirror list is a pretty sane default. but I digress, not interested in an OS debate ;) [15:31] jpalmer: Assuming I had hands on the system in the first place. [15:31] But like I said, I'm just transparently caching+mirroring [15:32] So centos hits mirrorlist, gets a random mirror and runs with it. Centos has a million, billion mirrors... [15:32] So every hit to a mirror is a new host, uncached [15:32] so, in your isolated environment, the defaults aren't perfect. not sure how that qualifies as a "sane" or not default. it seems to work for millions of installations [15:33] I'm saying the default (centos using a mirrorlist) doesn't work well with proxy caching. [15:33] Since every invocation is to a different hostname, and therefore not a hit on the cache. [15:35] seems like if thats the big issue, it'd be trivial to override the DNS entry for "mirrorlist" and hand it whatever mirror you want. [15:35] I did but it's ugly [15:35] or, roll out an OEM'd image that has the mirrorlist you want them using like AWS does. [15:36] (but I don't have that control of the users) [15:36] the defaults, IMO are sane. it's not even like it breaks your environment, it just doesn't fall within your personal preference. [15:37] I didn't say Centos was insane (that is a personal preference, but I'm not arguing that) [15:38] you said debian has sane defaults, which has some.. implications about centos's ;) [15:38] Perhaps "sane" wasn't the best descriptor :p [15:39] hehe [16:41] *** jlgaddis has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [19:21] *** mnathani has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) [19:21] *** mnathani has joined #arpnetworks [19:22] *** mnathani has quit IRC (Client Quit) [19:22] *** mnathani has joined #arpnetworks