#arpnetworks 2014-07-07,Mon

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m0undsmissed that video you linked staticsafe - good stuff. the mass effect 3 music is always good, haha [08:48]
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jpalmerup_the_irons: Centos7 has been announced. I know you mentioned being low on disk space for the mirror [12:08]
brycecIs there a question there? :P [12:10]
jpalmerbrycec: no, just a heads up [12:17]
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up_the_ironsok tnx [12:45]
phlux1: i want to see your conky / i3bar config :) [12:51]
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brycecjpalmer: Yeah it came up at the time. I was razzin' up_the_irons for *still* not having a Debian mirror. up_the_irons mentioned the disk space woes, so I suggested that centos could be removed (they have a complex mirroring structure that doesn't lend itself as well to local mirroring as other distros). And then someone (maybe you?) brought up the just-released CentOS 7 [13:27]
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jpalmerbrycec: I dunno man, I think the centos mirror is pretty easy to replicate. "rsync" and done [15:18]
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up_the_ironsjpalmer: brycec : yeah we don't do anything but a simple rsync [15:22]
brycecI meant that it's a bit of a pain to override the mirrorlist
Probably easier for ARP since you have an image
But I work with networks that have to transparently cache.
And if I don't intercept the mirrorlist and fill in my own mirrors, then I'm dealing with a gazillion different hostnames
(Whereas with Apt, it has a sane default, the same thing, every time.
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jpalmerbrycec: I'm not sure I follow. you uncomment one line, and comment out the other?
IMO, I think a mirror list is a pretty sane default. but I digress, not interested in an OS debate ;)
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brycecjpalmer: Assuming I had hands on the system in the first place.
But like I said, I'm just transparently caching+mirroring
So centos hits mirrorlist, gets a random mirror and runs with it. Centos has a million, billion mirrors...
So every hit to a mirror is a new host, uncached
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jpalmerso, in your isolated environment, the defaults aren't perfect. not sure how that qualifies as a "sane" or not default. it seems to work for millions of installations [15:32]
brycecI'm saying the default (centos using a mirrorlist) doesn't work well with proxy caching.
Since every invocation is to a different hostname, and therefore not a hit on the cache.
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jpalmerseems like if thats the big issue, it'd be trivial to override the DNS entry for "mirrorlist" and hand it whatever mirror you want. [15:35]
brycecI did but it's ugly [15:35]
jpalmeror, roll out an OEM'd image that has the mirrorlist you want them using like AWS does. [15:35]
brycec(but I don't have that control of the users) [15:36]
jpalmerthe defaults, IMO are sane. it's not even like it breaks your environment, it just doesn't fall within your personal preference. [15:36]
brycecI didn't say Centos was insane (that is a personal preference, but I'm not arguing that) [15:37]
jpalmeryou said debian has sane defaults, which has some.. implications about centos's ;) [15:38]
brycecPerhaps "sane" wasn't the best descriptor :p [15:38]
jpalmerhehe [15:39]
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