[01:31] <plett> I was tempted to make a joke about Gentoo always being a joke, but using an installer over a serial port is something which no distros seem to get right these days. I even have to rebuild FreeBSD ISOs with a modified loader.conf to support serial ports
[01:54] <Guest91046> huh.
[01:55] <hazardous> i can't sleep and it's 2 am
[01:55] <hazardous> so now i'm writing bad code
[02:31] <Guest91046> > Write failed: Broken pipe
[02:31] <Guest91046> really annoying
[02:53] <Guest91046> this better work this time or Im going to punch my self really hard until I give myself a concussion
[03:02] <Guest91046> broken pipe
[03:02] <Guest91046> maybe you guys should be using better pipes
[03:02] <Guest91046> instead of pvc try some steel or something
[03:03] <Guest91046> it costs a little extra
[03:03] <Guest91046> but its worth it
[03:38] <Guest91046> parrots
[03:39] <Guest91046> I want to write my own frontend for hypervisor management
[03:39] <Guest91046> the same way I write my own everything else
[03:40] <pyvpx> why?
[03:40] * pyvpx doesn't understand the roll your own/NIH mentality
[03:41] <Guest91046> and I dont understand why people can't get something to work right given 5+ years
[03:42] <Guest91046> I dont get why people would rather pay for support contracts which may or may not even be worth while than understand how something works and be able to fix it themselves
[03:43] <Guest91046> I know first hand with support contracts, that it's competitive
[03:44] <Guest91046> you're paying other people to work on their software and the more you pay the more likely you are going to get anywhere. Why? because you can't possibly understand their code or even contribute to it for that matter without knowing it inside and out and you're better off making your own and implementing exactly what you need
[03:47] <Guest91046> https://github.com/paigeadele/job_application_assistant/blob/master/JobFinder/Main.cs#L51
[03:47] <Guest91046> https://github.com/paigeadele/JobFinderBootstrap/blob/master/JobFinderBootstrap/Main.cs#L45
[03:48] <Guest91046> pyvpx: you may not be able to understand how this works, but I do, very well. I understand it a hell of a lot better than I would understand a ruby on rails project, or a django project and I find its not infuriating at all like django and rails are to me
[03:50] <Guest91046> and I love this, its so straight to the point https://github.com/paigeadele/job_application_assistant/blob/master/JobFinder/ServiceManager.cs
[03:50] <Guest91046> no asp involved
[03:53] <Guest91046> Mono still lacks a native websocket server though
[03:53] <Guest91046> theres another framework out there that I found out about looking at some mono commits to the websocket code (merged from a another project)
[03:53] <Guest91046> need to check it out at some point but for now I need to finish getting this damn vm to boot
[03:54] <Guest91046> for some stupid reason, I couldn't get virtio drivers to work but I think I might have figured out why.
[03:55] <Guest91046> guess not.
[03:55] <Guest91046> sigh.
[03:56] <Guest91046> yeah I mean this wouldn't be that big of an issue,
[03:56] <Guest91046> if I could have created another vm before wiping my old vm
[03:56] <Guest91046> and just moved the networks assigned to the old vm to the new vm
[03:56] <Guest91046> but thats not the case because I'm using someone else's stuff
[03:56] <Guest91046> and this story is getting old and tired
[03:57] <Guest91046> I want my own damn hypervisor, running my own damn software, so I can do whatever the fuck I want.
[04:00] <Guest91046> https://gist.github.com/paigeadele/734e055bc87399eca86f
[04:00] <BryceBot> Gist: "https://gist.github.com/734e055bc87399eca86f"
[04:00] <Guest91046> do you see anything missing here ?
[04:00] <Guest91046> # CONFIG_SCSI_VIRTIO is not set
[04:00] <Guest91046> thats the only thing I can think of.
[04:01] <Guest91046> it's not detecting vda
[04:13] <Guest91046> I remember I had to deal with this last year
[04:13] <Guest91046> and I figured it out
[04:17] <Guest91046> I'm really liking kde, I setup the layman repo and built the live (9999) packages
[04:17] <Guest91046> had to fix a few things along the way but it was good execise
[04:17] <Guest91046> bf told me I was nuts
[04:25] <mercutio> wow lots of text :)
[04:25] <plett> mercutio: That often happens with Gentoo
[04:26] <mercutio> i haven't used gentoo in like 10 yaers
[04:26] <mercutio> back when mirrors often had issues
[04:26] <mercutio> and it'd choose a random mirror
[04:27] <Guest91046> mercutio: lately I've been getting prompted for mirrors, but i'm not sure if its because its getting ipv6 mirrors
[04:27] <mercutio> i prefer arch these days
[04:28] <Guest91046> does anyone here know if the way kvm is setup on arp requires mmio for virtio ?
[04:28] <plett> I'm sticking with Debian for my stuff, with the occasional BSD machine thrown in for good luck
[04:29] <mercutio> no i dea
[04:29] <mercutio> does the default kernel not boot?
[04:30] <Guest91046> it will boot,
[04:30] <Guest91046> it doesn't detect the disk
[04:30] <Guest91046> (vda)
[04:30] <Guest91046> the livecd does
[04:30] <mercutio> weird
[04:30] <Guest91046> but lsmod on the livecd does not reveal that the mmio module is in use
[04:30] <mercutio> try editing grub to have root=/dev/vda1 or such?
[04:31] <Guest91046> so one would think no its not required?
[04:31] <Guest91046> mercutio: it doesn't detect at all, I can drop into a busybox shell from the kernel and peruse
[04:31] <mercutio> oh weird
[04:31] <Guest91046> lemme try with mmio real quick though
[04:31] <mercutio> chroot into the gentoo jail and compile your own kernel?
[04:33] <Guest91046> yes I am
[04:33] <Guest91046> though not remotely
[04:33] <Guest91046> I'm compiling it and uploading it because it would be too dman slow to build it in the vm
[04:33] <mercutio> ahh
[04:34] <Guest91046> its just a tad annoying is all, I keep having to ssh into the console thing to S stop the vm and b boot it and then connect with the vnc client before it goes to the bootloader hit f12 boot the cd ifconfig chroot sshd passwd ....
[04:34] <Guest91046> I'm dieing to just get it right and be done with it
[04:34] <Guest91046> lol
[04:35] <mercutio> heh
[04:35] <mercutio> i like openbsd :)
[04:35] <Guest91046> obsd is pretty cool
[04:35] <Guest91046> I just dont mess with it anymore
[04:35] <Guest91046> I used to
[04:35] <mercutio> that's what i like about it
[04:35] <mercutio> you don't have to mess with it
[04:35] <Guest91046> ran it on an sgi and some sun boxes
[04:35] <mercutio> it just works
[04:36] <mercutio> god i tried it on a sparc
[04:36] <mercutio> painfully slow
[04:36] <Guest91046> friend of mine used to work ont he vax port
[04:36] <Guest91046> Im sure he could tell you about slow
[04:36] <Guest91046> lol
[04:36] <mercutio> that was a sparc 1 i think :/
[04:36] <mercutio> like 16mb of ram or something
[04:37] <mercutio> mono frame buffer
[04:37] <mercutio> unaccelerated
[04:39] <Guest91046> got it
[04:39] <Guest91046> it was just the mmio or something dumb
[04:39] <mercutio> cool
[04:40] <mercutio> i don't actually know what that is, but cool
[04:40] <Guest91046> memory mapped io
[04:40] <Guest91046> I dont understand exactly how it works
[04:40] <Guest91046> probably exactly how it sounds
[04:41] <Guest91046> fixed memory addresses devices in memory
[04:43] <Guest91046> sec lemme finish setting this thing up
[04:52] <Guest91046> gah
[04:53] <Guest91046> wtf
[04:53] <Guest91046> it just peaced out
[04:53] <Guest91046> vncviewer: VNC server closed connection
[04:53] <Guest91046> erratic@laptop ~ $ vncviewer kvr22.arpnetworks.com:5981
[04:53] <Guest91046> vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused
[04:54] <mercutio> maybe you restarted your vm
[04:56] <Guest91046> no ... it was booting and something broke or somebody turned it off on me
[04:57] <Guest91046> it seems kinda touchy atm
[04:57] <Guest91046> also grsec is making really damn slow
[04:58] <Guest91046> I had turned it off earlier to see if it was causing issues, I had to disable one of the memory protection features that would halt it each time there was a panic / oops / segfault
[04:58] <Guest91046> not a very helpful feature
[04:58] <Guest91046> lol
[04:58] <Guest91046> I just dropped into busy box though
[04:58] <Guest91046> sec
[05:19] <Guest91046> could someobody tell me the console= parameters their grub config has
[05:20] <Guest91046> please
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[06:41] <Guest40357> finally got it
[06:41] <Guest40357> still want to add the grsec stuff back
[06:41] <Guest40357> at least I have a fall back now
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[07:17] <Guest40357> library versions: PolarSSL 1.3.4, LZO 2.06
[07:17] <Guest40357> sweet
[07:35] <Guest40357> eeeeee!
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[21:42] <mnathani> oops:  load average: 17.57, 8.48, 3.23
[21:46] <brycec> 17.57? please, wake me up when you break 100
[21:46] <brycec> Or 500 on your little old iBook G4. That poor thing...
[21:46] <mnathani> thats on a single core VPS
[21:47] <brycec> I assumed as much.
[21:47] <mnathani> back to more reasonable levels now: load average: 0.28, 3.48, 2.43
[21:47] <mnathani> brycec: you ever use or try otrs?
[21:49] <mnathani> Open-source Ticket Request System
[21:50] <brycec> Yep. It was years ago though.
[21:50] <brycec> German, perl, etc
[21:50] <mnathani> thats the one
[21:53] <brycec> Wow, I used it as late as March 2008. Thought I'd discontinued it before then.
[21:53] <mnathani> do you remember it being resource intensive?
[21:53] <brycec> Well, it's written in perl, so... Yes.
[21:54] <brycec> I dedicated a whole baremetal machine to it.
[21:54] <brycec> It was slow, and it (along with Apache) was a resource hog.
[21:55] <brycec> (I would assume that it's improved some in 6 years of active development)
[21:55] <brycec> (Apparently I was running 2.2.6 or thereabouts)
[21:56] <brycec> (And they're up to... 3.3)
[22:10] <mercutio> why would it improve?
[22:11] <mercutio> perl uses more memory on 64 bit than 32 bit
[22:11] <mercutio> and afaik perl performance on the same hardware isn't significantl beter
[22:24] <brycec> I figured the project could improve, optimise a bit perhaps.
[22:24] <brycec> (or switch to another language :p)
[22:46] <mercutio> i wonder if perl is under much active development
[22:47] <mercutio> i think there was going to be a completely different perl 6?
[22:47] <milki> i havent heard much fanfare about it these days
[22:57] <mnathani> brycec: do you know if zeit got the Erroneous Leap Second Introduced at 2014-06-30 23:59:59 UTC
[23:22] <mnathani> Has anyone ever received a pdf invoice via email from ARPnetworks?
[23:22] <mnathani> Just came across: You will receive a PDF invoice to the email address provided on the service order form as Administrative POC
[23:23] <mnathani> but don't ever recall getting a PDF before