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mnathani: wish there was a compelling reason to use v6
mercutio: heh
<br> there isn't
mnathani: faster, more secure, no NAT even / maybe
mercutio: it's slower
<br> and firewalls often don't support it as well yet
mnathani: and there are islands, right cogent / he
mercutio: islands?
mnathani: portions that are not connected to other portions
mercutio: i think everyone can talk to everyone
mnathani: single home to he.net cant talk to cogent I thought
<br> and vice versa
mercutio: oh i idn't know that
mnathani: not sure if it is still the case
<br> but http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/10/22/peering-disputes-migrate-to-ipv6/
<br> thats from 2009
<br> https://twitter.com/nacnud/status/480563238741245952
BryceBot: <u>TWITTER</u>: seriously @CogentCo and @henet, when are you guys going to #ipv6 peer? You are breaking my IPv6 BGP. it's freaking 2014 already! (Sun Jun 22 04:09:39 +0000 2014)
mnathani: more recent ^
milki: nabamlol
mercutio: oh
<br> cogent and he.net both have bad reputations
mnathani: cogent I know for having budget IP transit - oversubscribed links etc
<br> he.net - how so?
<br> I thought he.net was a leader in IPv6 with their tunnelbroker and IPv6 certification etc
mercutio: their ipv4 transit is kind of mediocre
<br> like they congested real bad to europe when new york had that flooding
acf_: from what I've seen recently, HE seems to be one of the few transit providers that has congestion-free paths to Verizon and Comcast actually
mercutio: and they have a few weird routing hiccups within the uS
<br> cool.
<br> i haven't done my dns lookup thing yet
<br> i just have to find something that acn do a million lookups
<br> and setup a dns resolver for it
<br> cos a million requests might seem a bit dodgy through a normal one :)
acf_: yeah that's a lot
mercutio: alexa top million web sites
<br> so i can try and figure out if comcast, verizon etc host web sites no it
acf_: oh, I see
mercutio: i'm sure there's a good parallel dns lookup thing somewhere
acf_: you want samples for your smokeping?
mercutio: i saw one in go
<br> i thought a plain c one would be better though
<br> yeah
acf_: go is a actually pretty fast
mercutio: cos i don't really like relying on icmp
<br> unbound actually has a recursor library that can host it's own dns
<br> but i found it slow when i used it
<br> i think it was called libunbound
acf_: if you just want a few websites on Verizon and Comcast
<br> https://www.robtex.com/route/205.150.0.0-16.html
<br> like http://www.vrra.ca/
mercutio: oh cool
acf_: https://www.robtex.com/as/as701.html
<br> list of all the blocks announced by as701
<br> you can click them to get a list of hostnames
mercutio: www.kwic.com looks like good example
<br> except it looks like it's lagging
<br> oh it's in canada
acf_: yeah
<br> I think that block is in canada
mnathani: Origin AS: 813
mercutio: omg
<br> lamest isp ever :)
<br> Make Kwic Internet Your Homepage
<br> (IE 5 or higher)
<br> 10 hours dialup for $9.95
<br> 512kb wireless lite with 256kb upload for $39.95/month
acf_: that's great
<br> it has two peers
<br> Verizon and Verizon
mercutio: iSpeed Non-PPOE Commercial Access (call for information)
<br> haha
<br> i'm getting packet lsos to there
acf_: me too from arp
<br> idk about other places
mercutio: from nz i meant
<br> which has forward route of verizon
acf_: ah
mercutio: oh it's worse from arp :/
<br> cool it still peers in los angeles
<br> probably as good a test as any
<br> http://www.kwic.com/pics/supportimage.JPG
<br> 5k :(
<br> is shtml static html?
acf_: I think it's dynamically generated
mercutio: that's why i wanted image
<br> but the image is oknly 5k
acf_: http://www.vrra.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/GrandBend-2FINAL.jpg
<br> 405k
<br> both seem to take the same path
mercutio: damn that slow
acf_: no loss from Amazon ec2 also
<br> 100%[======================================>] 414,490 574K/s in 0.7s
<br> from Amazon
mercutio: it's 1 sec from arp
acf_: http://paste.unixcube.org/k/7ed5
<br> oh it is
mercutio: 2.2 seconds from nz, 4.9 from sydney
acf_: have a bigger one
mercutio: ok anyway, it should do hope they don't mind us using their bw :)
acf_: http://www.vrra.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/1-050.jpg
mercutio: is it a personal web site or an isp?
acf_: it's the website for the "vintage road racing association"
<br> hosted on that isp you found
<br> *by
mercutio: ahh
<br> they may have bw limits
acf_: 100%[======================================>] 1,614,719 928KB/s in 1.7s
<br> doesn't seem too bad
mercutio: i'd hate to have the web site hit some limit
acf_: yeah
<br> I'll look for some more
mercutio: and yeah damn it slow
<br> i think it's probably windows :/
<br> which doesn't have as good ramping up on tcp on high latency connections
<br> oh its' apache
<br> php 5.2.9
<br> so like 5 year old linux?
<br> i think it's probably centos 5 with linux 2.6.18
acf_: hm
<br> difficult to find anything single homed to Verizon
mercutio: yeh
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m0unds1: ugh, freenode makes my head hurt
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Guest34975: <u>up_the_irons</u>: can I pay in advance?
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mnathani: <u>Guest34975</u>: http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/billing/is-there-a-discount-for-paying-in-advance
Guest42246: guest, everyone always pays at the beginning of the month, until the end of the month, and pro rata to the beginning of the next month when they sign up.
<br> oh that kind of thing
<br> argh i'm a guest, what happened
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mercutio: oh i didn't realise there was a discount for paying in advance that's kidn of cool.
mnathani: the Guest says to the other Guest lol
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Guest34975: I dont want a discount
<br> I just want to pay for it for as long as I can see myself using it (at least a year)
<br> but ok
<br> that works :D
<br> will arrange for this next week
<br> also can I upload a .vmd or .qcow2 or something with my own os
<br> oh cool
<br> I forgot about this
<br> http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/vps/re-install-or-change-os
<br> I have just one thing to say to that
<br> and it has absolutely nothing to do with this nor is it meaningful
<br> so i'm just gonna shut the hell up before I piss somebody off
<br> I wish I had done gentoo
<br> I can just build my stage3 locally and recompress it then upload it
<br> yes I think I will start that
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mercutio: heh
<br> did everyone disconnect from freenode earlier?
hazardous: fn shit the bed, yeah
<br> services dropped too
mercutio: it looked like 4 hours ago and 4 and a half hours ago
<br> so seemed more major
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