mnathani: wish there was a compelling reason to use v6
mercutio: heh
there isn't
mnathani: faster, more secure, no NAT even / maybe
mercutio: it's slower
and firewalls often don't support it as well yet
mnathani: and there are islands, right cogent / he
mercutio: islands?
mnathani: portions that are not connected to other portions
mercutio: i think everyone can talk to everyone
mnathani: single home to he.net cant talk to cogent I thought
and vice versa
mercutio: oh i idn't know that
mnathani: not sure if it is still the case
but http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/10/22/peering-disputes-migrate-to-ipv6/
thats from 2009
https://twitter.com/nacnud/status/480563238741245952
BryceBot: TWITTER: seriously @CogentCo and @henet, when are you guys going to #ipv6 peer? You are breaking my IPv6 BGP. it's freaking 2014 already! (Sun Jun 22 04:09:39 +0000 2014)
mnathani: more recent ^
milki: nabamlol
mercutio: oh
cogent and he.net both have bad reputations
mnathani: cogent I know for having budget IP transit - oversubscribed links etc
he.net - how so?
I thought he.net was a leader in IPv6 with their tunnelbroker and IPv6 certification etc
mercutio: their ipv4 transit is kind of mediocre
like they congested real bad to europe when new york had that flooding
acf_: from what I've seen recently, HE seems to be one of the few transit providers that has congestion-free paths to Verizon and Comcast actually
mercutio: and they have a few weird routing hiccups within the uS
cool.
i haven't done my dns lookup thing yet
i just have to find something that acn do a million lookups
and setup a dns resolver for it
cos a million requests might seem a bit dodgy through a normal one :)
acf_: yeah that's a lot
mercutio: alexa top million web sites
so i can try and figure out if comcast, verizon etc host web sites no it
acf_: oh, I see
mercutio: i'm sure there's a good parallel dns lookup thing somewhere
acf_: you want samples for your smokeping?
mercutio: i saw one in go
i thought a plain c one would be better though
yeah
acf_: go is a actually pretty fast
mercutio: cos i don't really like relying on icmp
unbound actually has a recursor library that can host it's own dns
but i found it slow when i used it
i think it was called libunbound
acf_: if you just want a few websites on Verizon and Comcast
https://www.robtex.com/route/205.150.0.0-16.html
like http://www.vrra.ca/
mercutio: oh cool
acf_: https://www.robtex.com/as/as701.html
list of all the blocks announced by as701
you can click them to get a list of hostnames
mercutio: www.kwic.com looks like good example
except it looks like it's lagging
oh it's in canada
acf_: yeah
I think that block is in canada
mnathani: Origin AS: 813
mercutio: omg
lamest isp ever :)
Make Kwic Internet Your Homepage
(IE 5 or higher)
10 hours dialup for $9.95
512kb wireless lite with 256kb upload for $39.95/month
acf_: that's great
it has two peers
Verizon and Verizon
mercutio: iSpeed Non-PPOE Commercial Access (call for information)
haha
i'm getting packet lsos to there
acf_: me too from arp
idk about other places
mercutio: from nz i meant
which has forward route of verizon
acf_: ah
mercutio: oh it's worse from arp :/
cool it still peers in los angeles
probably as good a test as any
http://www.kwic.com/pics/supportimage.JPG
5k :(
is shtml static html?
acf_: I think it's dynamically generated
mercutio: that's why i wanted image
but the image is oknly 5k
acf_: http://www.vrra.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/GrandBend-2FINAL.jpg
405k
both seem to take the same path
mercutio: damn that slow
acf_: no loss from Amazon ec2 also
100%[======================================>] 414,490 574K/s in 0.7s
from Amazon
mercutio: it's 1 sec from arp
acf_: http://paste.unixcube.org/k/7ed5
oh it is
mercutio: 2.2 seconds from nz, 4.9 from sydney
acf_: have a bigger one
mercutio: ok anyway, it should do hope they don't mind us using their bw :)
acf_: http://www.vrra.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/1-050.jpg
mercutio: is it a personal web site or an isp?
acf_: it's the website for the "vintage road racing association"
hosted on that isp you found
*by
mercutio: ahh
they may have bw limits
acf_: 100%[======================================>] 1,614,719 928KB/s in 1.7s
doesn't seem too bad
mercutio: i'd hate to have the web site hit some limit
acf_: yeah
I'll look for some more
mercutio: and yeah damn it slow
i think it's probably windows :/
which doesn't have as good ramping up on tcp on high latency connections
oh its' apache
php 5.2.9
so like 5 year old linux?
i think it's probably centos 5 with linux 2.6.18
acf_: hm
difficult to find anything single homed to Verizon
mercutio: yeh
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m0unds1: ugh, freenode makes my head hurt
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Guest34975: up_the_irons: can I pay in advance?
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mnathani: Guest34975: http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/billing/is-there-a-discount-for-paying-in-advance
Guest42246: guest, everyone always pays at the beginning of the month, until the end of the month, and pro rata to the beginning of the next month when they sign up.
oh that kind of thing
argh i'm a guest, what happened
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mercutio: oh i didn't realise there was a discount for paying in advance that's kidn of cool.
mnathani: the Guest says to the other Guest lol
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Guest34975: I dont want a discount
I just want to pay for it for as long as I can see myself using it (at least a year)
but ok
that works :D
will arrange for this next week
also can I upload a .vmd or .qcow2 or something with my own os
oh cool
I forgot about this
http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/vps/re-install-or-change-os
I have just one thing to say to that
and it has absolutely nothing to do with this nor is it meaningful
so i'm just gonna shut the hell up before I piss somebody off
I wish I had done gentoo
I can just build my stage3 locally and recompress it then upload it
yes I think I will start that
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mercutio: heh
did everyone disconnect from freenode earlier?
hazardous: fn shit the bed, yeah
services dropped too
mercutio: it looked like 4 hours ago and 4 and a half hours ago
so seemed more major
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