[00:04] very little yes [00:04] wish there was a compelling reason to use v6 [00:04] heh [00:04] there isn't [00:04] faster, more secure, no NAT even / maybe [00:04] it's slower [00:05] and firewalls often don't support it as well yet [00:05] and there are islands, right cogent / he [00:05] islands? [00:05] portions that are not connected to other portions [00:05] i think everyone can talk to everyone [00:05] single home to he.net cant talk to cogent I thought [00:06] and vice versa [00:13] oh i idn't know that [00:13] not sure if it is still the case [00:13] but http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/10/22/peering-disputes-migrate-to-ipv6/ [00:14] thats from 2009 [00:15] https://twitter.com/nacnud/status/480563238741245952 [00:15] TWITTER: seriously @CogentCo and @henet, when are you guys going to #ipv6 peer? You are breaking my IPv6 BGP. it's freaking 2014 already! (Sun Jun 22 04:09:39 +0000 2014) [00:15] more recent ^ [00:20] nabamlol [01:06] oh [01:06] cogent and he.net both have bad reputations [01:07] cogent I know for having budget IP transit - oversubscribed links etc [01:07] he.net - how so? [01:08] I thought he.net was a leader in IPv6 with their tunnelbroker and IPv6 certification etc [01:10] their ipv4 transit is kind of mediocre [01:10] like they congested real bad to europe when new york had that flooding [01:10] from what I've seen recently, HE seems to be one of the few transit providers that has congestion-free paths to Verizon and Comcast actually [01:11] and they have a few weird routing hiccups within the uS [01:11] cool. [01:11] i haven't done my dns lookup thing yet [01:11] i just have to find something that acn do a million lookups [01:11] and setup a dns resolver for it [01:12] cos a million requests might seem a bit dodgy through a normal one :) [01:12] yeah that's a lot [01:12] alexa top million web sites [01:12] so i can try and figure out if comcast, verizon etc host web sites no it [01:13] oh, I see [01:13] i'm sure there's a good parallel dns lookup thing somewhere [01:13] you want samples for your smokeping? [01:13] i saw one in go [01:13] i thought a plain c one would be better though [01:13] yeah [01:13] go is a actually pretty fast [01:13] cos i don't really like relying on icmp [01:14] unbound actually has a recursor library that can host it's own dns [01:14] but i found it slow when i used it [01:14] i think it was called libunbound [01:20] if you just want a few websites on Verizon and Comcast [01:20] https://www.robtex.com/route/205.150.0.0-16.html [01:20] like http://www.vrra.ca/ [01:21] oh cool [01:21] https://www.robtex.com/as/as701.html [01:21] list of all the blocks announced by as701 [01:21] you can click them to get a list of hostnames [01:21] www.kwic.com looks like good example [01:22] except it looks like it's lagging [01:22] oh it's in canada [01:22] yeah [01:22] I think that block is in canada [01:22] Origin AS: 813 [01:22] omg [01:22] lamest isp ever :) [01:22] Make Kwic Internet Your Homepage [01:22] (IE 5 or higher) [01:23] 10 hours dialup for $9.95 [01:23] 512kb wireless lite with 256kb upload for $39.95/month [01:23] that's great [01:23] it has two peers [01:23] Verizon and Verizon [01:23] iSpeed Non-PPOE Commercial Access (call for information) [01:24] haha [01:24] i'm getting packet lsos to there [01:24] me too from arp [01:24] idk about other places [01:24] from nz i meant [01:24] which has forward route of verizon [01:24] ah [01:24] oh it's worse from arp :/ [01:25] cool it still peers in los angeles [01:25] probably as good a test as any [01:25] http://www.kwic.com/pics/supportimage.JPG [01:25] 5k :( [01:25] is shtml static html? [01:26] I think it's dynamically generated [01:26] that's why i wanted image [01:26] but the image is oknly 5k [01:27] http://www.vrra.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/GrandBend-2FINAL.jpg [01:27] 405k [01:27] both seem to take the same path [01:28] damn that slow [01:28] no loss from Amazon ec2 also [01:28] 100%[======================================>] 414,490 574K/s in 0.7s [01:28] from Amazon [01:28] it's 1 sec from arp [01:28] http://paste.unixcube.org/k/7ed5 [01:29] oh it is [01:29] 2.2 seconds from nz, 4.9 from sydney [01:30] have a bigger one [01:30] ok anyway, it should do hope they don't mind us using their bw :) [01:30] http://www.vrra.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/1-050.jpg [01:30] is it a personal web site or an isp? [01:30] it's the website for the "vintage road racing association" [01:30] hosted on that isp you found [01:30] *by [01:30] ahh [01:30] they may have bw limits [01:30] 100%[======================================>] 1,614,719 928KB/s in 1.7s [01:31] doesn't seem too bad [01:31] i'd hate to have the web site hit some limit [01:31] yeah [01:31] I'll look for some more [01:31] and yeah damn it slow [01:31] i think it's probably windows :/ [01:32] which doesn't have as good ramping up on tcp on high latency connections [01:32] oh its' apache [01:32] php 5.2.9 [01:32] so like 5 year old linux? [01:33] i think it's probably centos 5 with linux 2.6.18 [01:51] hm [01:51] difficult to find anything single homed to Verizon [02:40] yeh [03:59] *** hive-mind has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [04:00] *** hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks [07:18] *** novae has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [07:22] *** novae has joined #arpnetworks [08:43] *** Guest65377 has joined #arpnetworks [09:30] *** Guest65377 is now known as erratic [11:20] *** gluffis has joined #arpnetworks [14:00] *** erratic has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [14:23] *** erratic has joined #arpnetworks [14:23] *** erratic is now known as Guest25270 [14:55] *** Guest25270 has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net) [15:15] *** m0unds has quit IRC (Quit: derp) [15:23] *** erratic has joined #arpnetworks [15:24] *** erratic is now known as Guest12135 [15:25] *** m0unds1 has joined #arpnetworks [15:26] ugh, freenode makes my head hurt [15:43] *** m0unds1 has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) [16:16] *** cpinkus has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) [16:19] *** m0unds has joined #arpnetworks [16:21] *** m0unds has quit IRC (Client Quit) [16:25] *** cpinkus has joined #arpnetworks [16:29] *** m0unds has joined #arpnetworks [16:33] *** m0unds_ has joined #arpnetworks [16:45] *** m0unds has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) [17:02] *** kevr_ has joined #arpnetworks [17:03] *** kevr has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:03] *** hive-mind has quit IRC (Disconnected by services) [17:04] *** mercutio has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:04] *** hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks [17:04] *** KDE_Perry has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:05] *** KDE_Perry has joined #arpnetworks [17:07] *** Guest12135 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:09] *** mercutio has joined #arpnetworks [17:09] *** mercutio is now known as Guest42246 [17:10] *** mnathani has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:10] *** phlux has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:10] *** pcn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:13] *** Guest34975 has joined #arpnetworks [17:17] *** KILLALLH1MANS01 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [17:18] *** kevr_ is now known as kevr [17:18] *** kevr has quit IRC (Changing host) [17:18] *** kevr has joined #arpnetworks [17:18] *** mnathani has joined #arpnetworks [17:19] *** ameise has joined #arpnetworks [17:20] *** ant has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [17:20] *** ameise is now known as ant [17:24] *** staticsafe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [17:24] *** milki has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [17:24] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has joined #arpnetworks [17:24] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has quit IRC (Changing host) [17:24] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has joined #arpnetworks [17:24] *** kevr has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) [17:26] up_the_irons: can I pay in advance? [17:28] *** milki has joined #arpnetworks [17:28] *** kevr has joined #arpnetworks [17:32] *** phlux has joined #arpnetworks [17:34] *** gluffis_ has joined #arpnetworks [17:36] *** DaCa_ has joined #arpnetworks [17:37] *** Guest42246 has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [17:37] *** gluffis has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [17:37] *** anis has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [17:37] *** z310 has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [17:37] *** DaCa has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [17:38] *** anis has joined #arpnetworks [17:39] *** Guest42246 has joined #arpnetworks [17:43] *** z310 has joined #arpnetworks [17:47] *** staticsafe has joined #arpnetworks [18:00] *** m0unds has joined #arpnetworks [18:42] Guest34975: http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/billing/is-there-a-discount-for-paying-in-advance [18:50] guest, everyone always pays at the beginning of the month, until the end of the month, and pro rata to the beginning of the next month when they sign up. [18:51] oh that kind of thing [18:51] argh i'm a guest, what happened [18:51] *** Guest42246 is now known as mercutio [18:51] oh i didn't realise there was a discount for paying in advance that's kidn of cool. [18:55] the Guest says to the other Guest lol [19:02] *** pcn has joined #arpnetworks [20:25] I dont want a discount [20:26] I just want to pay for it for as long as I can see myself using it (at least a year) [20:27] but ok [20:27] that works :D [20:27] will arrange for this next week [20:33] also can I upload a .vmd or .qcow2 or something with my own os [20:38] oh cool [20:38] I forgot about this [20:38] http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/vps/re-install-or-change-os [20:38] I have just one thing to say to that [20:38] and it has absolutely nothing to do with this nor is it meaningful [20:39] so i'm just gonna shut the hell up before I piss somebody off [20:41] I wish I had done gentoo [20:41] I can just build my stage3 locally and recompress it then upload it [20:46] yes I think I will start that [21:25] *** shepard has joined #arpnetworks [21:25] *** shepard has quit IRC (Client Quit) [21:36] heh [21:37] did everyone disconnect from freenode earlier? [21:37] fn shit the bed, yeah [21:37] services dropped too [21:37] it looked like 4 hours ago and 4 and a half hours ago [21:37] so seemed more major [22:13] *** mnathani has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [22:16] *** mnathani has joined #arpnetworks