#arpnetworks 2014-06-28,Sat

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mercutiovery little yes [00:04]
mnathaniwish there was a compelling reason to use v6 [00:04]
mercutioheh
there isn't
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mnathanifaster, more secure, no NAT even / maybe [00:04]
mercutioit's slower
and firewalls often don't support it as well yet
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mnathaniand there are islands, right cogent / he [00:05]
mercutioislands? [00:05]
mnathaniportions that are not connected to other portions [00:05]
mercutioi think everyone can talk to everyone [00:05]
mnathanisingle home to he.net cant talk to cogent I thought
and vice versa
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mercutiooh i idn't know that [00:13]
mnathaninot sure if it is still the case
but http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/10/22/peering-disputes-migrate-to-ipv6/
thats from 2009
https://twitter.com/nacnud/status/480563238741245952
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BryceBotTWITTER: seriously @CogentCo and @henet, when are you guys going to #ipv6 peer? You are breaking my IPv6 BGP. it's freaking 2014 already! (Sun Jun 22 04:09:39 +0000 2014) [00:15]
mnathanimore recent ^ [00:15]
milkinabamlol [00:20]
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mercutiooh
cogent and he.net both have bad reputations
[01:06]
mnathanicogent I know for having budget IP transit - oversubscribed links etc
he.net - how so?
I thought he.net was a leader in IPv6 with their tunnelbroker and IPv6 certification etc
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mercutiotheir ipv4 transit is kind of mediocre
like they congested real bad to europe when new york had that flooding
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acf_from what I've seen recently, HE seems to be one of the few transit providers that has congestion-free paths to Verizon and Comcast actually [01:10]
mercutioand they have a few weird routing hiccups within the uS
cool.
i haven't done my dns lookup thing yet
i just have to find something that acn do a million lookups
and setup a dns resolver for it
cos a million requests might seem a bit dodgy through a normal one :)
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acf_yeah that's a lot [01:12]
mercutioalexa top million web sites
so i can try and figure out if comcast, verizon etc host web sites no it
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acf_oh, I see [01:13]
mercutioi'm sure there's a good parallel dns lookup thing somewhere [01:13]
acf_you want samples for your smokeping? [01:13]
mercutioi saw one in go
i thought a plain c one would be better though
yeah
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acf_go is a actually pretty fast [01:13]
mercutiocos i don't really like relying on icmp
unbound actually has a recursor library that can host it's own dns
but i found it slow when i used it
i think it was called libunbound
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acf_if you just want a few websites on Verizon and Comcast
https://www.robtex.com/route/205.150.0.0-16.html
like http://www.vrra.ca/
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mercutiooh cool [01:21]
acf_https://www.robtex.com/as/as701.html
list of all the blocks announced by as701
you can click them to get a list of hostnames
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mercutiowww.kwic.com looks like good example
except it looks like it's lagging
oh it's in canada
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acf_yeah
I think that block is in canada
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mnathaniOrigin AS: 813 [01:22]
mercutioomg
lamest isp ever :)
Make Kwic Internet Your Homepage
(IE 5 or higher)
10 hours dialup for $9.95
512kb wireless lite with 256kb upload for $39.95/month
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acf_that's great
it has two peers
Verizon and Verizon
[01:23]
mercutioiSpeed Non-PPOE Commercial Access (call for information)
haha
i'm getting packet lsos to there
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acf_me too from arp
idk about other places
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mercutiofrom nz i meant
which has forward route of verizon
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acf_ah [01:24]
mercutiooh it's worse from arp :/
cool it still peers in los angeles
probably as good a test as any
http://www.kwic.com/pics/supportimage.JPG
5k :(
is shtml static html?
[01:24]
acf_I think it's dynamically generated [01:26]
mercutiothat's why i wanted image
but the image is oknly 5k
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acf_http://www.vrra.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/GrandBend-2FINAL.jpg
405k
both seem to take the same path
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mercutiodamn that slow [01:28]
acf_no loss from Amazon ec2 also
100%[======================================>] 414,490 574K/s in 0.7s
from Amazon
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mercutioit's 1 sec from arp [01:28]
acf_http://paste.unixcube.org/k/7ed5
oh it is
[01:28]
mercutio2.2 seconds from nz, 4.9 from sydney [01:29]
acf_have a bigger one [01:30]
mercutiook anyway, it should do hope they don't mind us using their bw :) [01:30]
acf_http://www.vrra.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/1-050.jpg [01:30]
mercutiois it a personal web site or an isp? [01:30]
acf_it's the website for the "vintage road racing association"
hosted on that isp you found
*by
[01:30]
mercutioahh
they may have bw limits
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acf_100%[======================================>] 1,614,719 928KB/s in 1.7s
doesn't seem too bad
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mercutioi'd hate to have the web site hit some limit [01:31]
acf_yeah
I'll look for some more
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mercutioand yeah damn it slow
i think it's probably windows :/
which doesn't have as good ramping up on tcp on high latency connections
oh its' apache
php 5.2.9
so like 5 year old linux?
i think it's probably centos 5 with linux 2.6.18
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acf_hm
difficult to find anything single homed to Verizon
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mercutioyeh [02:40]
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m0unds1ugh, freenode makes my head hurt [15:26]
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Guest34975up_the_irons: can I pay in advance? [17:26]
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mnathaniGuest34975: http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/billing/is-there-a-discount-for-paying-in-advance [18:42]
Guest42246guest, everyone always pays at the beginning of the month, until the end of the month, and pro rata to the beginning of the next month when they sign up.
oh that kind of thing
argh i'm a guest, what happened
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mercutiooh i didn't realise there was a discount for paying in advance that's kidn of cool. [18:51]
mnathanithe Guest says to the other Guest lol [18:55]
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Guest34975I dont want a discount
I just want to pay for it for as long as I can see myself using it (at least a year)
but ok
that works :D
will arrange for this next week
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also can I upload a .vmd or .qcow2 or something with my own os [20:33]
oh cool
I forgot about this
http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/vps/re-install-or-change-os
I have just one thing to say to that
and it has absolutely nothing to do with this nor is it meaningful
so i'm just gonna shut the hell up before I piss somebody off
I wish I had done gentoo
I can just build my stage3 locally and recompress it then upload it
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yes I think I will start that [20:46]
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mercutioheh
did everyone disconnect from freenode earlier?
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hazardousfn shit the bed, yeah
services dropped too
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mercutioit looked like 4 hours ago and 4 and a half hours ago
so seemed more major
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