#arpnetworks 2014-06-27,Fri

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mnathanimercutio: if you know the ip of a webserver, bing has ip:1.2.3.4 to show sites hosted on that ip [00:21]
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mercutioi don't even know thoe ip of a web server
i was startiing to look at transit customers
because may be able to find self-hostwed web site
comcast use rackspace etc for hosting ehri websites
different for forums than business than normal
blah
alexa have top 500 web sites or smoething
if i can find a big enough list of web sites, i can do dns lookups
thing is comcast have heaps of ip's...
i doubt comcast is in top 500 :(
oh they have a list of a million
http://s3.amazonaws.com/alexa-static/top-1m.csv.zip
if anyone else is keen
dns lokoup should be easy, but i dunno what way to show asn easily fsat.
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plettmercutio: http://www.team-cymru.org/Services/ip-to-asn.html is probably good enough for most purposes [02:31]
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mercutiowould it scale?
i'm looknig to do a million..
[02:51]
plettYou'd have to ask them, but that page documents a bulk interface using netcat/whois [02:56]
mercutiowhois doesn't scale
they limit you if you do too many queries
hmm i was thinking file database
[03:03]
plettWho is 'they' in this instance? whois is just a protocol [03:04]
mercutioi can get a route list though
oh apnic do :)
if you do too many queries on ip's
[03:04]
plettcymru aren't apnic though... [03:04]
mercutioor domain names
yeh
true
a million is a lot though
hmm openbgpd lookup is actually pretty quick, 5 msec
5 million msec = 83 minutes
i was just hoping there's a better way
[03:04]
plettOh, if you've got a local BGP feed to query, that's definitely going to be the best way [03:06]
mercutiooh hmm what does traceroute -A use
yaeh i can get a full table
also i assume some web sites will be in the same class c as others
so if i do the dns lookups, then sort by ip, and exclude any within the same class c..
then i can jump to the point in the table of comcast's networks
and verizon etc
that's prboably actually the easiest
[03:06]
plettThe concept of classful networking hasn't been relevant for at least a decade [03:10]
mercutionow i just need to find bulk dns lookup thing
yeah but you can't advertise less than a class c
and looking for providers
so it's reasonable to expect ip's on the same class c to be the same provider
[03:10]
plettI would ask my bgp feed for what size announcement is covering a particular IP at the same time as asking what ASN it was
And then use that to filter out other IPs in the same prefix
[03:11]
mercutiowell like 4.2.2.2 is on 4.0.0.0/9
but that'd involve lots of netmask interpretation
and overlapping etc
hmm
[03:11]
plettSure, and once you know that, you needn't bother asking where any other IPs in 4.0.0.0/9 are
Assuming there aren't more specific routes
[03:12]
mercutioyou know, 450k of 32 bit ip's shouldnt' be complicated
can just create a huge table
that's only like 1.8mb of ram
[03:12]
plettWhy not just query your bgp feed for each IP? [03:13]
mercutiouhh if just storing ip
and 2 bytes for asn
if ignoring 4 byte asn's
[03:13]
plettWhich you can't do [03:13]
mercutiocos it takes 5 msec per ip [03:13]
plettIs that a problem? [03:14]
mercutioi suppose if you only do it once not too bad
i was just hopign there was a cleaner way
i still need to do the mass dns lookup anyway
http://dev.maxmind.com/geoip/legacy/geolite/
geolite have ip to asn
[03:14]
hmm, google have a patent on precaching of dns lookups
like chrome does
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m0unds1sweet, thanks freenode [14:04]
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jpalmerso, I'm really digging btsync. [17:53]
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m0undsone of the arma 3 mods i play uses it as a secondary update mechanism [17:59]
staticsafe: did you see this dude's stuff on /r/planetside? https://www.flickr.com/photos/chewieslair/sets/72157633181419957 - some pretty fancy pp [18:06]
brycechaha, I rather like it too
Not comfortable trusting it with sensitive data though
[18:09]
staticsafem0unds: whoa [18:12]
m0undsthe last one with the outstretched hand is pretty neat [18:17]
staticsafehttps://www.flickr.com/photos/chewieslair/14301675818/in/set-72157633181419957 I like this one a lot [18:18]
m0undsyeah
the tr variant of that camo is horrible :/
[18:18]
staticsafethis guy clearly plays VS :D
ALL HAIL VANU
[18:18]
m0undsyeah, hahaha [18:18]
staticsafeyou play on hossin yet? [18:19]
m0undsyeah, did this morning
lots of fun LA hiding places
[18:19]
staticsafeyeah
the server merge has made the game better for me as well
[18:20]
m0undsright on [18:21]
staticsafeVS is no longer underpop a lot of the time [18:21]
m0undsdoes the server seem to have time of day population swells for each faction? [18:21]
staticsafehm haven't noticed it
i usually play towards evening my time
[18:22]
m0undsconnery's gotten really bad w/that - VS has like 40%+ pop until about 1100 MDT, NC has 40%+ pop til about 2000, then TR has 40%+ pop from 2100 til asian VS players start up again [18:22]
staticsafeah
right now would be a good time to log in actually
friday nights usually quite populated
[18:22]
m0undsyeah, fri/sat nights on connery are pretty wacky too
i got my run out of the way this morning, so i might hop in when i get off work tonight
were you on waterson or mattherson?
[18:23]
staticsafewaterson
https://www.planetside2.com/players/#!/5428013610399066945 been leveling up
[18:25]
m0undsnice [18:27]
staticsafeand yes I did max cert out the repair tool >_> [18:27]
m0undslol
it's helpful
i didn't realize how much xp you get for deatomizing tank mines
[18:27]
staticsafenext up i want to unlock the AV turret [18:28]
m0undsi usually just shot them with my pistol or whatever, but i stopped an armor column to remove some and thought i'd try the repair tool removal and it was 40xp each [18:28]
staticsafecause I CBA to switch to heavy assault for that [18:28]
m0undshaha, yeah
only thing i hate about the mana av is that the mouse movement seems almost..notchy
[18:28]
staticsafeI get killed by heavy assaults most of the time
cause of their shield
i don't do enough damage in time
[18:30]
m0undsyeah, can't wait for them to nerf the ha shield
they need to give the vanguard shield a similar treatment - spool up timer
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staticsafehttp://youtu.be/FCX3g3YEiWY [18:50]
BryceBotYouTube Games: "Need ammo? Call Elsewhere Deliveries! (PlanetSide 2 Gameplay)" by Wrel (2m 52s), 574 views, 365 likes and 2 dislikes. Uploaded 2014-06-27T22:17:00.000Z. [18:50]
m0undsbahaha [18:53]
staticsafethis is great [18:53]
m0undsthat music is terrible, hahah [18:53]
staticsafeyep [18:53]
m0undsammolib ftw [18:54]
staticsafeammogalaxy fty
ammowhale*
[18:55]
hazardousstaticsafe: my php script is not working, pzl help. [19:03]
staticsafehazardous: have you tried #php [19:05]
hazardousthey told me i was retarded [19:05]
staticsafe:P [19:05]
hazardousOut of memory: Kill process 16203 (php) score 930 or sacrifice child
Killed process 16203 (php) total-vm:94000576kB
after a few hours
[19:05]
m0undswell, you'd have to be to use php. yuk yuk yuk yuk. [19:05]
hazardousi'm simply trying to sum up a few db fields
in a no-schema nosql db
and after i run out of ram it dies
[19:05]
m0undshttps://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4316167680/h7AF4CD73/ [19:15]
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mnathaniWhat would folks here list as advantages or features offered by IPv6 to end users? In this case, a client who has a website I would like to dual stack [23:11]
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milkinone?
forward compatibility?
[23:33]

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