[01:24] *** toddf has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [01:59] *** carvite has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [04:44] *** cw1972 has joined #arpnetworks [06:26] *** raptelan has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal) [06:27] *** raptelan has joined #arpnetworks [06:57] *** carvite has joined #arpnetworks [07:51] yay, my compressor isn't dead [08:27] *** mnathani has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [08:28] *** mnathani has joined #arpnetworks [08:41] *** toddf has joined #arpnetworks [08:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o toddf [09:25] So only $$$ not $$$$ ? [09:27] yup [09:27] less than $1500 [09:28] that's better than $7500 for sure [09:28] m0unds: So what was it - capacitor? [09:35] capacitor, condenser fan motor [09:36] capacitor is barely within spec, so i told him to r&r - also, he saw the leak the previous tech noted on the prev inspection and i asked him to fix that [09:36] so the bulk of the cost is the labor and refrigerant since they have to pump it out to fix the leaky schrader valve [09:55] Heh I often think I should do HVAC work [09:56] "If it's not the compressor, it's a cap. if it's nto a cap, it's the condensor." [09:57] hvac could be fun [09:57] i like trade stuff [09:57] i think if i ever get sick of doing IT-related things, i'd probably look into going to trade school for electrical or hvac or something [09:57] Agreed. And some days, it's more appealing than others... [09:58] yeah [09:58] Though, I used to live in Phoenix, and doing HVAC work there would suck. [09:58] hahaha [09:58] yeah, for sure [09:58] climates where people shouldn't be living = no [09:58] hahaha [09:58] cold or hot [09:59] I've come to enjoy living up north [09:59] Snow etc [09:59] yeah [09:59] i get snow here because of the elevation, but not much rain [10:00] Today's high is 83, then it's going to drop 10-20 degrees over the next couple of days. [10:00] when my wife finishes her work contract, we'll probably look into moving somewhere else [10:01] Also: cold climate == excuse to run servers in the house [10:01] hahaha [10:01] At least 50% of my winter heating was from exhaust heat. [10:01] nice [10:01] i had to shut down my storage server because it's been shot hot w/no functioning AC [10:01] shot? so hot. [10:01] At times, I had to leave my office window open to cool it down even. [10:01] ugh [10:01] hahaha [10:01] * brycec felt weird to have windows open while snow fell [10:02] lol I understood "shot" I know a guy who abbreviates that way, pretty good -> pgood [10:02] yeah, i've done similar - just put cardboard in the return in my office/computer room [10:02] but i said shot hot, haha [10:02] so hot hot i guess [10:02] atm machine [10:02] nic card [10:02] etc [10:03] i just want winter to come back [10:03] Nah didn't even need directed airflow - was just cooling down the whole room. (Also, servers were opposite of the window) [10:03] Me too :) [10:03] Not that summer is bad, but summer = bugs [10:03] Though, at least in the summer, my fingers don't get cold and stiff and make typing nigh-impossible\ [10:03] oh, i blocked my return because i didn't want the furnace pulling in chilled air (when i had my window open, it dropped room temps to 60 or lower) [10:04] all the bedrooms in my house have ducted returns [10:04] I've since moved my servers out from the office (second bedroom) into the living room (big room, vaulted ceilings) so lots of airspace [10:04] nice [10:05] I have no central heating/cooling :P [10:05] our downstairs runs pretty cool when we have AC - typically 70 downstairs and 80 upstairs [10:05] without AC, 85 downstairs and 90+ upstairs [10:05] haha [10:06] Yeah. I'm not a fan of the noise (bad pun unintended), but I'm not in the living room much. And soon, I hope to have that drive shelf setup to only come online as-needed. [10:06] (Xserve RAID - those things are not quiet...) [10:06] right [10:07] One of these days, I'll get things scripted to power it on, mount/import it, transfer backups over, then unmount/export and power it back off [10:07] That will be COOL [10:07] Near-side cold storage, sorta [10:08] i've never worked with xserve stuff before [10:09] And you're not likely too since it's been discontinued :P [10:09] Apple carried on the name for their servers, but dropped the RAID shelf line [10:10] only one person i know worked w/their server gear in any capacity [10:10] (Talk about loud - the xserves themselves are deafening) [10:10] and it's because his predecessor was crazy about apple stuff and believed you couldn't use anything but apple servers on a network with any other apple devices [10:11] my supermicro stuff is pretty loud - 4u and 1u chassis' [10:11] the 1us have those tiny little 40mm or 30mm fans that just howl [10:12] PWM driver is broken too, so the turbines are running 100% at all times [10:12] Fortunately, that xserve is in the warehouse at work and doesn't bother me :) [10:12] yuck [10:14] do you run OSX on your storage server? [10:16] lol no. At home, my storage stuff is FreeBSD [10:17] and the xserveraid is just a disk shelf for me (JBOD) [10:17] The xserve g5s I talk about I keep at work as hobby stuff, because I have a soft spot for ppc, sparc, and mips [10:25] gotcha [10:25] jbod disk shelf for zfs or something? [10:25] we're budgeting for a pair of ixsystems storage servers next year [10:25] need to get separate stuff for incident/evidence backup [10:26] Yeah, ZFS on it [10:26] <3 ZFS [10:26] yeah, good stuff [10:27] The aforementioned server has has 20 drives in it, plus a fibrechannel card connected to the xserveg5, providing me with something akin to hot and cold storage pools [10:27] cool [10:37] *** Guest9057 is now known as pjs [11:06] *** gizmoguy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [11:07] *** gizmoguy has joined #arpnetworks [13:35] *** cw1972 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [13:35] *** cw1972 has joined #arpnetworks [14:29] *** BryceBot has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [14:31] *** brycec has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:44] * KILLALLHUMANS01 wonder what the heck... where did that brycec fellow go? [14:47] up_the_irons: is this your doing? Have you killed my kvm/qemu process?? I can't even hit the VNC [14:47] * KILLALLHUMANS01 angrily blames up_the_irons [14:48] why would i do that [14:48] I dunno [14:48] up_the_irons: Before I reboot - is there anything you can do to see 'why" it seems to have killed itself? [14:48] (kvr07) [14:50] * KILLALLHUMANS01 ought to have some external monitoring of his external monitoring host [14:51] (well I have notifications, but not usage) [14:51] * KILLALLHUMANS01 "power"-cycles [14:58] *** brycec has joined #arpnetworks [14:58] *** brycec has quit IRC (Excess Flood) [14:59] *** Guest25252 has joined #arpnetworks [15:00] *** brycec has joined #arpnetworks [15:01] *** cw1972 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [15:02] *** cw1972 has joined #arpnetworks [15:02] KILLALLHUMANS01: pm me your vps uuid [15:17] *** Guest25252 has quit IRC (Changing host) [15:17] *** Guest25252 has joined #arpnetworks [15:18] *** Guest25252 is now known as BryceBot [15:28] Holy crap [15:28] It did it again... [15:29] * up_the_irons sees a migration in your future [15:31] *** brycec has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [15:31] *** BryceBot has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [15:47] *** hive-mind has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:53] Looks like setting up one's own looking glass is pretty easy with an OpenBSD box/VM. http://menari.eu/post/13924017079/creating-a-looking-glass-with-openbgpd [15:53] * KILLALLHUMANS01 idly waits for all humans to be killed, and reads up on ideas that were proposed in #arpnetworks [15:54] And an example of what it looks like http://lg.onvoy.net/cgi-bin/bgplg [15:54] ^ OpenBSD 4.3 on a sparc64 [15:55] *** cw1972 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [15:55] *** cw1972 has joined #arpnetworks [16:00] *** cw1972 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [16:02] *** cw1972 has joined #arpnetworks [16:16] *** hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks [16:16] *** Guest12918 has joined #arpnetworks [16:28] *** hive-mind has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [16:29] *** brycec has joined #arpnetworks [16:29] woo I'm back online! [16:30] *** Guest12918 has quit IRC (Changing host) [16:30] *** Guest12918 has joined #arpnetworks [16:31] *** Guest12918 is now known as BryceBot [16:33] brycec: tnx for the route reflector stuff, looks pretty easy to set up [16:34] Agreed, though there's a lot about BGP I don't yet know [16:34] But simply seems to be a read-only replication stream from your router [16:35] And then a little bgplg/bgpctl glue [16:35] Keeps your route server "clean" [16:36] *** hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks [16:36] Smokeping blows me away sometimes. I'm watching https://smokeping.cobryce.com/?target=Slaves back-fill with data from when the master was offline [16:38] yeah [16:38] nice [16:55] *** cw1972 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [16:55] *** cw1972 has joined #arpnetworks [16:57] i did mention the openbsd looking glass was simple before :) [16:57] openbsd has dropped apache out of base though, so any old tutorial is probably not relevant [16:57] err 100% relevant [16:58] It's pretty easy to hook up a CGI script to nginx though. I'm sure someone like up_the_irons doesn't need the hand-holding, just the general ideas [16:58] heh [16:58] i've never actually touched nginx yet :) [16:58] * brycec <3 nginx [16:58] i suppose most people hav enow? [16:58] I used to <3 lighttpd, then I met nginx [16:58] i still don't know how it's better than lighttpd [16:59] I think Apache is still 90% of the global market [16:59] nginx and lighttpd are pretty similar, especially compared to the likes of Apache [17:00] Though I find nginx to be smoother and easier (faster, more descriptive config linting for instance) [17:02] Mostly, I stick to nginx (over lighttpd) because it's what's in base [17:02] *** cw1972 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:03] *** cw1972 has joined #arpnetworks [17:10] pkg_add lighttpd is pretty simple though :) [17:24] It's less about "ease" and more about what OpenBSD has put their weight behind [17:24] "endorsement" if you will [17:37] is lighttpd still actively developed, or is it down to just security fixes at this point? [17:38] * m0unds also loves nginx [17:44] *** cw1972 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [17:44] *** cw1972 has joined #arpnetworks [17:45] It's hard to tell... one the one hand, their last "preview release" (1.5.0) was 4 years ago, but they have also been slipping in some features along with the bug fixes (see http://www.lighttpd.net/2013/9/27/1-4-33/) [17:46] (the release before that was November 2012) [17:47] it's not very active [17:47] neither was apache 1 though :) [18:46] *** z310 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [18:56] *** z310 has joined #arpnetworks [18:56] haha [18:57] i guess, by contrast, nginx is extremely active [19:14] does it have tcp fast open support? [19:15] it's easy to add if it doesn't [19:19] it's abuot the only feautre i want to see atm :) [19:20] i hacked it into lighttpd, and i could notice the difference with cacti [19:21] but it's linux only, and chrome has buggy support of it. [19:28] *** dferris_ has joined #arpnetworks [19:54] *** z310 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [20:01] *** dangel has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [20:01] *** medum has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [20:01] *** tooth has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [20:02] *** tooth has joined #arpnetworks [20:02] *** dangel has joined #arpnetworks [20:02] *** medum has joined #arpnetworks [20:15] mercutio: Yes, it's stock. http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/ngx_http_core_module.html "fastopen=" [20:15] cool [20:16] yeah it's kind of a newish thing [20:16] with hardly any adoption other than google it seems [20:16] http://hg.nginx.org/nginx/rev/692afcea9d0d Apparently requires a recent Linux kernel [20:16] but the same concept can help more than just http [20:16] it could make ssh login quicker etc too [20:16] not very recent i think [20:17] i was playing with it first a year or two ago [20:17] i did find something curious, some international stuff didn't benefit as much as it should for larger files [20:17] i think it's some kind of automatic bandwidth shaping stuff or such [20:18] like short page with 160 ms rtt was like 160msec [20:18] err was like 170 for the second [20:18] longer pay with or without tcp fast open averaged more ilke 120msec or such dfiference [20:19] i nede to test again :) [20:22] i was trying to modify my curl implementation to work with smokeping so i could test properly. 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