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m0unds: yay, my compressor isn't dead
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brycec: So only $$$ not $$$$ ?
m0unds: yup
<br> less than $1500
<br> that's better than $7500 for sure
brycec: <u>m0unds</u>: So what was it - capacitor?
m0unds: capacitor, condenser fan motor
<br> capacitor is barely within spec, so i told him to r&r - also, he saw the leak the previous tech noted on the prev inspection and i asked him to fix that
<br> so the bulk of the cost is the labor and refrigerant since they have to pump it out to fix the leaky schrader valve
brycec: Heh I often think I should do HVAC work
<br> "If it's not the compressor, it's a cap. if it's nto a cap, it's the condensor."
m0unds: hvac could be fun
<br> i like trade stuff
<br> i think if i ever get sick of doing IT-related things, i'd probably look into going to trade school for electrical or hvac or something
brycec: Agreed. And some days, it's more appealing than others...
m0unds: yeah
brycec: Though, I used to live in Phoenix, and doing HVAC work there would suck.
m0unds: hahaha
<br> yeah, for sure
<br> climates where people shouldn't be living = no
<br> hahaha
<br> cold or hot
brycec: I've come to enjoy living up north
<br> Snow etc
m0unds: yeah
<br> i get snow here because of the elevation, but not much rain
brycec: Today's high is 83, then it's going to drop 10-20 degrees over the next couple of days.
m0unds: when my wife finishes her work contract, we'll probably look into moving somewhere else
brycec: <u>Also</u>: cold climate == excuse to run servers in the house
m0unds: hahaha
brycec: At least 50% of my winter heating was from exhaust heat.
m0unds: nice
<br> i had to shut down my storage server because it's been shot hot w/no functioning AC
<br> shot? so hot.
brycec: At times, I had to leave my office window open to cool it down even.
m0unds: ugh
<br> hahaha
-: brycec felt weird to have windows open while snow fell
brycec: lol I understood "shot" I know a guy who abbreviates that way, pretty good -> pgood
m0unds: yeah, i've done similar - just put cardboard in the return in my office/computer room
<br> but i said shot hot, haha
<br> so hot hot i guess
brycec: atm machine
<br> nic card
<br> etc
m0unds: i just want winter to come back
brycec: Nah didn't even need directed airflow - was just cooling down the whole room. (Also, servers were opposite of the window)
<br> Me too :)
<br> Not that summer is bad, but summer = bugs
<br> Though, at least in the summer, my fingers don't get cold and stiff and make typing nigh-impossible[10:03] <m0unds> oh, i blocked my return because i didn't want the furnace pulling in chilled air (when i had my window open, it dropped room temps to 60 or lower)
m0unds: all the bedrooms in my house have ducted returns
brycec: I've since moved my servers out from the office (second bedroom) into the living room (big room, vaulted ceilings) so lots of airspace
m0unds: nice
brycec: I have no central heating/cooling :P
m0unds: our downstairs runs pretty cool when we have AC - typically 70 downstairs and 80 upstairs
<br> without AC, 85 downstairs and 90+ upstairs
<br> haha
brycec: Yeah. I'm not a fan of the noise (bad pun unintended), but I'm not in the living room much. And soon, I hope to have that drive shelf setup to only come online as-needed.
<br> (Xserve RAID - those things are not quiet...)
m0unds: right
brycec: One of these days, I'll get things scripted to power it on, mount/import it, transfer backups over, then unmount/export and power it back off
<br> That will be COOL
<br> Near-side cold storage, sorta
m0unds: i've never worked with xserve stuff before
brycec: And you're not likely too since it's been discontinued :P
<br> Apple carried on the name for their servers, but dropped the RAID shelf line
m0unds: only one person i know worked w/their server gear in any capacity
brycec: (Talk about loud - the xserves themselves are deafening)
m0unds: and it's because his predecessor was crazy about apple stuff and believed you couldn't use anything but apple servers on a network with any other apple devices
<br> my supermicro stuff is pretty loud - 4u and 1u chassis'
<br> the 1us have those tiny little 40mm or 30mm fans that just howl
brycec: PWM driver is broken too, so the turbines are running 100% at all times
<br> Fortunately, that xserve is in the warehouse at work and doesn't bother me :)
m0unds: yuck
<br> do you run OSX on your storage server?
brycec: lol no. At home, my storage stuff is FreeBSD
<br> and the xserveraid is just a disk shelf for me (JBOD)
<br> The xserve g5s I talk about I keep at work as hobby stuff, because I have a soft spot for ppc, sparc, and mips
m0unds: gotcha
<br> jbod disk shelf for zfs or something?
<br> we're budgeting for a pair of ixsystems storage servers next year
<br> need to get separate stuff for incident/evidence backup
brycec: Yeah, ZFS on it
<br> <3 ZFS
m0unds: yeah, good stuff
brycec: The aforementioned server has has 20 drives in it, plus a fibrechannel card connected to the xserveg5, providing me with something akin to hot and cold storage pools
m0unds: cool
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-: KILLALLHUMANS01 wonder what the heck... where did that brycec fellow go?
KILLALLHUMANS01: <u>up_the_irons</u>: is this your doing? Have you killed my kvm/qemu process?? I can't even hit the VNC
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up_the_irons: why would i do that
KILLALLHUMANS01: I dunno
<br> <u>up_the_irons</u>: Before I reboot - is there anything you can do to see 'why" it seems to have killed itself?
<br> (kvr07)
-: KILLALLHUMANS01 ought to have some external monitoring of his external monitoring host
KILLALLHUMANS01: (well I have notifications, but not usage)
-: KILLALLHUMANS01 "power"-cycles
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up_the_irons: <u>KILLALLHUMANS01</u>: pm me your vps uuid
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KILLALLHUMANS01: Holy crap
<br> It did it again...
-: up_the_irons sees a migration in your future
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KILLALLHUMANS01: Looks like setting up one's own looking glass is pretty easy with an OpenBSD box/VM. http://menari.eu/post/13924017079/creating-a-looking-glass-with-openbgpd
-: KILLALLHUMANS01 idly waits for all humans to be killed, and reads up on ideas that were proposed in #arpnetworks
KILLALLHUMANS01: And an example of what it looks like http://lg.onvoy.net/cgi-bin/bgplg
<br> ^ OpenBSD 4.3 on a sparc64
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brycec: woo I'm back online!
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up_the_irons: <u>brycec</u>: tnx for the route reflector stuff, looks pretty easy to set up
brycec: Agreed, though there's a lot about BGP I don't yet know
<br> But simply seems to be a read-only replication stream from your router
<br> And then a little bgplg/bgpctl glue
<br> Keeps your route server "clean"
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brycec: Smokeping blows me away sometimes. I'm watching https://smokeping.cobryce.com/?target=Slaves back-fill with data from when the master was offline
up_the_irons: yeah
<br> nice
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mercutio: i did mention the openbsd looking glass was simple before :)
<br> openbsd has dropped apache out of base though, so any old tutorial is probably not relevant
<br> err 100% relevant
brycec: It's pretty easy to hook up a CGI script to nginx though. I'm sure someone like up_the_irons doesn't need the hand-holding, just the general ideas
mercutio: heh
<br> i've never actually touched nginx yet :)
-: brycec <3 nginx
mercutio: i suppose most people hav enow?
brycec: I used to <3 lighttpd, then I met nginx
mercutio: i still don't know how it's better than lighttpd
brycec: I think Apache is still 90% of the global market
<br> nginx and lighttpd are pretty similar, especially compared to the likes of Apache
<br> Though I find nginx to be smoother and easier (faster, more descriptive config linting for instance)
<br> Mostly, I stick to nginx (over lighttpd) because it's what's in base
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mercutio: pkg_add lighttpd is pretty simple though :)
brycec: It's less about "ease" and more about what OpenBSD has put their weight behind
<br> "endorsement" if you will
m0unds: is lighttpd still actively developed, or is it down to just security fixes at this point?
-: m0unds also loves nginx
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brycec: It's hard to tell... one the one hand, their last "preview release" (1.5.0) was 4 years ago, but they have also been slipping in some features along with the bug fixes (see http://www.lighttpd.net/2013/9/27/1-4-33/)
<br> (the release before that was November 2012)
mercutio: it's not very active
<br> neither was apache 1 though :)
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m0unds: haha
<br> i guess, by contrast, nginx is extremely active
mercutio: does it have tcp fast open support?
<br> it's easy to add if it doesn't
<br> it's abuot the only feautre i want to see atm :)
<br> i hacked it into lighttpd, and i could notice the difference with cacti
<br> but it's linux only, and chrome has buggy support of it.
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brycec: <u>mercutio</u>: Yes, it's stock. http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/ngx_http_core_module.html "fastopen="
mercutio: cool
<br> yeah it's kind of a newish thing
<br> with hardly any adoption other than google it seems
brycec: http://hg.nginx.org/nginx/rev/692afcea9d0d Apparently requires a recent Linux kernel
mercutio: but the same concept can help more than just http
<br> it could make ssh login quicker etc too
<br> not very recent i think
<br> i was playing with it first a year or two ago
<br> i did find something curious, some international stuff didn't benefit as much as it should for larger files
<br> i think it's some kind of automatic bandwidth shaping stuff or such
<br> like short page with 160 ms rtt was like 160msec
<br> err was like 170 for the second
<br> longer pay with or without tcp fast open averaged more ilke 120msec or such dfiference
<br> i nede to test again :)
<br> i was trying to modify my curl implementation to work with smokeping so i could test properly.
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