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| m0unds | yay, my compressor isn't dead | [07:51] | |
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| brycec | So only $$$ not $$$$ ? | [09:25] | |
| m0unds | yup
less than $1500 that's better than $7500 for sure | [09:27] | |
| brycec | m0unds: So what was it - capacitor? | [09:28] | |
| m0unds | capacitor, condenser fan motor
capacitor is barely within spec, so i told him to r&r - also, he saw the leak the previous tech noted on the prev inspection and i asked him to fix that so the bulk of the cost is the labor and refrigerant since they have to pump it out to fix the leaky schrader valve | [09:35] | |
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| brycec | Heh I often think I should do HVAC work
"If it's not the compressor, it's a cap. if it's nto a cap, it's the condensor." | [09:55] | |
| m0unds | hvac could be fun
i like trade stuff i think if i ever get sick of doing IT-related things, i'd probably look into going to trade school for electrical or hvac or something | [09:57] | |
| brycec | Agreed. And some days, it's more appealing than others... | [09:57] | |
| m0unds | yeah | [09:58] | |
| brycec | Though, I used to live in Phoenix, and doing HVAC work there would suck. | [09:58] | |
| m0unds | hahaha
yeah, for sure climates where people shouldn't be living = no hahaha cold or hot | [09:58] | |
| brycec | I've come to enjoy living up north
Snow etc | [09:59] | |
| m0unds | yeah
i get snow here because of the elevation, but not much rain | [09:59] | |
| brycec | Today's high is 83, then it's going to drop 10-20 degrees over the next couple of days. | [10:00] | |
| m0unds | when my wife finishes her work contract, we'll probably look into moving somewhere else | [10:00] | |
| brycec | Also: cold climate == excuse to run servers in the house | [10:01] | |
| m0unds | hahaha | [10:01] | |
| brycec | At least 50% of my winter heating was from exhaust heat. | [10:01] | |
| m0unds | nice
i had to shut down my storage server because it's been shot hot w/no functioning AC shot? so hot. | [10:01] | |
| brycec | At times, I had to leave my office window open to cool it down even. | [10:01] | |
| m0unds | ugh
hahaha | [10:01] | |
| brycec | brycec felt weird to have windows open while snow fell
lol I understood "shot" I know a guy who abbreviates that way, pretty good -> pgood | [10:01] | |
| m0unds | yeah, i've done similar - just put cardboard in the return in my office/computer room
but i said shot hot, haha so hot hot i guess | [10:02] | |
| brycec | atm machine
nic card etc | [10:02] | |
| m0unds | i just want winter to come back | [10:03] | |
| brycec | Nah didn't even need directed airflow - was just cooling down the whole room. (Also, servers were opposite of the window)
Me too :) Not that summer is bad, but summer = bugs Though, at least in the summer, my fingers don't get cold and stiff and make typing nigh-impossible[10:03] <m0unds> oh, i blocked my return because i didn't want the furnace pulling in chilled air (when i had my window open, it dropped room temps to 60 or lower) | [10:03] | |
| m0unds | all the bedrooms in my house have ducted returns | [10:04] | |
| brycec | I've since moved my servers out from the office (second bedroom) into the living room (big room, vaulted ceilings) so lots of airspace | [10:04] | |
| m0unds | nice | [10:04] | |
| brycec | I have no central heating/cooling :P | [10:05] | |
| m0unds | our downstairs runs pretty cool when we have AC - typically 70 downstairs and 80 upstairs
without AC, 85 downstairs and 90+ upstairs haha | [10:05] | |
| brycec | Yeah. I'm not a fan of the noise (bad pun unintended), but I'm not in the living room much. And soon, I hope to have that drive shelf setup to only come online as-needed.
(Xserve RAID - those things are not quiet...) | [10:06] | |
| m0unds | right | [10:06] | |
| brycec | One of these days, I'll get things scripted to power it on, mount/import it, transfer backups over, then unmount/export and power it back off
That will be COOL Near-side cold storage, sorta | [10:07] | |
| m0unds | i've never worked with xserve stuff before | [10:08] | |
| brycec | And you're not likely too since it's been discontinued :P
Apple carried on the name for their servers, but dropped the RAID shelf line | [10:09] | |
| m0unds | only one person i know worked w/their server gear in any capacity | [10:10] | |
| brycec | (Talk about loud - the xserves themselves are deafening) | [10:10] | |
| m0unds | and it's because his predecessor was crazy about apple stuff and believed you couldn't use anything but apple servers on a network with any other apple devices
my supermicro stuff is pretty loud - 4u and 1u chassis' the 1us have those tiny little 40mm or 30mm fans that just howl | [10:10] | |
| brycec | PWM driver is broken too, so the turbines are running 100% at all times
Fortunately, that xserve is in the warehouse at work and doesn't bother me :) | [10:12] | |
| m0unds | yuck
do you run OSX on your storage server? | [10:12] | |
| brycec | lol no. At home, my storage stuff is FreeBSD
and the xserveraid is just a disk shelf for me (JBOD) The xserve g5s I talk about I keep at work as hobby stuff, because I have a soft spot for ppc, sparc, and mips | [10:16] | |
| m0unds | gotcha
jbod disk shelf for zfs or something? we're budgeting for a pair of ixsystems storage servers next year need to get separate stuff for incident/evidence backup | [10:25] | |
| brycec | Yeah, ZFS on it
<3 ZFS | [10:26] | |
| m0unds | yeah, good stuff | [10:26] | |
| brycec | The aforementioned server has has 20 drives in it, plus a fibrechannel card connected to the xserveg5, providing me with something akin to hot and cold storage pools | [10:27] | |
| m0unds | cool | [10:27] | |
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| KILLALLHUMANS01 | KILLALLHUMANS01 wonder what the heck... where did that brycec fellow go?
up_the_irons: is this your doing? Have you killed my kvm/qemu process?? I can't even hit the VNC KILLALLHUMANS01 angrily blames up_the_irons | [14:44] | |
| up_the_irons | why would i do that | [14:48] | |
| KILLALLHUMANS01 | I dunno
up_the_irons: Before I reboot - is there anything you can do to see 'why" it seems to have killed itself? (kvr07) KILLALLHUMANS01 ought to have some external monitoring of his external monitoring host (well I have notifications, but not usage) KILLALLHUMANS01 "power"-cycles | [14:48] | |
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| KILLALLHUMANS01 | Holy crap
It did it again... | [15:28] | |
| up_the_irons | up_the_irons sees a migration in your future | [15:29] | |
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| KILLALLHUMANS01 | Looks like setting up one's own looking glass is pretty easy with an OpenBSD box/VM. http://menari.eu/post/13924017079/creating-a-looking-glass-with-openbgpd
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^ OpenBSD 4.3 on a sparc64 | [15:53] | |
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| brycec | woo I'm back online! | [16:29] | |
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| up_the_irons | brycec: tnx for the route reflector stuff, looks pretty easy to set up | [16:33] | |
| brycec | Agreed, though there's a lot about BGP I don't yet know
But simply seems to be a read-only replication stream from your router And then a little bgplg/bgpctl glue Keeps your route server "clean" | [16:34] | |
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| brycec | Smokeping blows me away sometimes. I'm watching https://smokeping.cobryce.com/?target=Slaves back-fill with data from when the master was offline | [16:36] | |
| up_the_irons | yeah
nice | [16:38] | |
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| mercutio | i did mention the openbsd looking glass was simple before :)
openbsd has dropped apache out of base though, so any old tutorial is probably not relevant err 100% relevant | [16:57] | |
| brycec | It's pretty easy to hook up a CGI script to nginx though. I'm sure someone like up_the_irons doesn't need the hand-holding, just the general ideas | [16:58] | |
| mercutio | heh
i've never actually touched nginx yet :) | [16:58] | |
| brycec | brycec <3 nginx | [16:58] | |
| mercutio | i suppose most people hav enow? | [16:58] | |
| brycec | I used to <3 lighttpd, then I met nginx | [16:58] | |
| mercutio | i still don't know how it's better than lighttpd | [16:58] | |
| brycec | I think Apache is still 90% of the global market
nginx and lighttpd are pretty similar, especially compared to the likes of Apache Though I find nginx to be smoother and easier (faster, more descriptive config linting for instance) Mostly, I stick to nginx (over lighttpd) because it's what's in base | [16:59] | |
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| mercutio | pkg_add lighttpd is pretty simple though :) | [17:10] | |
| brycec | It's less about "ease" and more about what OpenBSD has put their weight behind
"endorsement" if you will | [17:24] | |
| m0unds | is lighttpd still actively developed, or is it down to just security fixes at this point?
m0unds also loves nginx | [17:37] | |
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| brycec | It's hard to tell... one the one hand, their last "preview release" (1.5.0) was 4 years ago, but they have also been slipping in some features along with the bug fixes (see http://www.lighttpd.net/2013/9/27/1-4-33/)
(the release before that was November 2012) | [17:45] | |
| mercutio | it's not very active
neither was apache 1 though :) | [17:47] | |
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| m0unds | haha
i guess, by contrast, nginx is extremely active | [18:56] | |
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| mercutio | does it have tcp fast open support?
it's easy to add if it doesn't it's abuot the only feautre i want to see atm :) i hacked it into lighttpd, and i could notice the difference with cacti but it's linux only, and chrome has buggy support of it. | [19:14] | |
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| brycec | mercutio: Yes, it's stock. http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/ngx_http_core_module.html "fastopen=" | [20:15] | |
| mercutio | cool
yeah it's kind of a newish thing with hardly any adoption other than google it seems | [20:15] | |
| brycec | http://hg.nginx.org/nginx/rev/692afcea9d0d Apparently requires a recent Linux kernel | [20:16] | |
| mercutio | but the same concept can help more than just http
it could make ssh login quicker etc too not very recent i think i was playing with it first a year or two ago i did find something curious, some international stuff didn't benefit as much as it should for larger files i think it's some kind of automatic bandwidth shaping stuff or such like short page with 160 ms rtt was like 160msec err was like 170 for the second longer pay with or without tcp fast open averaged more ilke 120msec or such dfiference i nede to test again :) i was trying to modify my curl implementation to work with smokeping so i could test properly. | [20:16] | |
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