mercutio: err s/verizon/comcast/ ***: KILLALLHUMANS01 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) acf_: up_the_irons: here's a paste
ip as-path access-list 4 permit _701_
ip as-path access-list 4 deny .*
route-map crappyisp permit 10
match as-path 4
set as-path prepend 25795
I mean http://paste.unixcube.org/k/961352 mercutio: oh did i delete the line somehow acf_: don't think so
I just added it mercutio: ok cool ***: KILLALLHUMANS01 has joined #arpnetworks
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^ contains more ASNs (in case you wanted to match more) mercutio: verizon is still congesting
i left a trace running
i thoguht it was ok by this time normally
acf: there's also at&t
maybe just prepend all ntt traffic by one :) acf_: oh forgot about them mercutio: at&t have two asn's acf_: are there any others I missed?
like Time Warner or Frontier or something mercutio: AS7018, AS17233
tbh, i think it's better to go step by step
it's unknown whether it's forward or reverse path
and level3 isn't advertised yet i think acf_: yeah
for Verizon I think we determined forward from arp mercutio: and for every one you add it's good to make note of before/after
so you can complain to ntt properly :) up_the_irons: -rw-r--r-- 1 garry garry 13227 Jun 14 2000 objects.php
hmmm
that's one OLD server mercutio: it's an old server not an old file?
is that php3 or php4? :) acf_: looks like verizon is *not congested* for about 6 hours/day mercutio: oh wow
that's pretty insane acf_: that is it's congested 75% of the time
http://kremvax.acfsys.net/smokeping.cgi?epoch_start=1402988400;hierarchy=;epoch_end=1403024400;target=Remote.verizonnet;displaymode=n;start=2014-06-17%2000%3A00;end=2014-06-17%2010%3A00
those are the six mercutio: acf: well some of that level3 blog stuff was disturbing
100 gigabit links run to capacity acf_: I didn't notice the capacity of the links
oh wow "It is a 100Gbps interconnect in Dallas" mercutio: no excuses for that really
you can't say it's only a few users acf_: I wonder if Verizon, etc... will even be better with Level3
given that they have the same issues mercutio: i think so
it's worth a shot acf_: http://blog.level3.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/route_info_1.jpg
the text blotched out is potentially "verizon"
or "comcast" mercutio: up_the_irons could add a static route for /32 of verizon.net
that's dallas acf_: that's a really good idea actually
because it wouldn't really affect anything mercutio: that's how i normally test things up_the_irons: mercutio: pretty sure that is php3 :) mercutio: yeah it's about the transition time
and if you aren't quick to leap on new stuff now, you probably wern't back then :) up_the_irons: :) mercutio: what do you think about our idea of a shared lan segment different from the backup one? up_the_irons: it's possible
hardly a lot of demand though
and really wouldn't be any different than the backup one
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erratic has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) brycec: I would've guessed PHP4. PHP3 was still traditionally .php3 , the .php didn't come about until php4
Of course you could always use whatever extension you wanted... But as far as what the docs showed/said to use. ***: pyvpx_ is now known as pyvpx hazardous: .phtml
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erratic is now known as Guest3064 mercutio: brycec: point, i wonder :) brycec: lol phtml mercutio: i don't remember phtml brycec: heh http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11859015/what-is-phtml-and-when-should-i-use-a-phtml-extension-rather-than-php mercutio: google knows all
oh php2, i don't remember php2
php stated at php3 for me brycec: Same. I knew of PHP2, but it wasn't really "a thing" yet. PHP3 was when it broke free and got popular
Also PHP2 sucked mercutio: php still sucks :)
although at least people are investing in making things faster
fwiw, apparently lua jit is extremely fast brycec: PHP sucks for vastly different reasons than PHP2 did
php2 was still hacked together, php3 they had a working parser and stuff
And overall, the language is still poorly thought out with inconsistencies everywhere. ***: Guest3064 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) mercutio: like perl brycec: (Some functions are $needle,$haystack, others are $haystack,$needle. and both need to die in a fire)
@diaf php BryceBot: php, AAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHH IT BURNS IT BURNS IT BURNS. Oh. Wait. No it doesn't. I have no feelings. mercutio: i don't erally like the notion of each page being independant code
and just pulling in what it needs
i prefer the idea of applications, that deal with various areas
and run all the time
but php is fine as far as footer/header/small amounts of code
i suppose that's a separate issue
the problem with php is that it's "good enough" ***: dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks
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funny hwo this channel is sometimes very active, adn other times it's just splits, nothing happening etc gizmoguy: hi mercutio: hi gizmo ***: erratic has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)
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erratic_ has joined #arpnetworks mnathani: Anyone else get spam from: ARIN Ticketing System today? erratic_: heh mnathani: whats a good way to copy / paste mtr output so it is still legible? mercutio: resize the wnidow to not be too wide
and paste it into something with a monospaced font
it'd be kind of cool if it could automatically just store results
and be able to create reports etc :)
if you run it with --report it's easier
but you don't get result until the end mnathani: thanks, trying --report now mercutio: you do --report-cycles=25 etc for how many you want
it defaults to 1 a second, so that'll take 25 seconds mnathani: yea set to 100
the congestion or whatever that was I was trying to troubleshoot has cleared up though mercutio: that's why repotr is annoying
because you do a mtr, and you identify an issue
then you want to reproduce with report and it's behaving itself. mnathani: http://pastebin.com/F73iFTPQ
thats my mtr report showing both directions
80msec is kinda high though for LAX to SJE mercutio: damn nlayer and their icmp deprioristation
it's going cia chicago i think?
ae4-587.cr2.ord1.us.nlayer.net
that's chicago right? mnathani: looks like it
@iata ord BryceBot: ORD: O'Hare International Airport (formerly Orchard Depot Field) located in Chicago, Illinois, United States mercutio: so nlayer san jose to los angeles is via chicago
so nlayer have a down link in california i imagine
because i imagnie normally it's direct mnathani: what about above.net
lax to sje with 80msec mercutio: ho hmm
ahh.. but what's the return path for above.net ?
from san jose mnathani: nlayer again?
traceroutes really confuse me mercutio: oh, it looks iltk it yes
so yeah it's just the nlayer issue
most liskely
it's what 10 msec from san jose to los angeles noramlly
and 55 msec from san jose to chicago?
that's both directions
so really it's behaving like it's going via chicago in both directions latency wise
so it may be that there's congestion due to link failure as well
it's 52 msec to chicago from asn jose
san
via cogent
and 60 msec from los angeles mnathani: lol
its back to sub 15msec
end to end mercutio: that's still high
i'm getting 8.9 msec from san jose to los angeles
but i suppose that's normal if it's dsl/cable/etc mnathani: more like 10msec actually mercutio: oh yip
that's what you'd expect
so yeah i'd go with some congestion plus rerouting
where congestion was prboably created from the rerouting mnathani: atleast they didnt just drop the packets
http://pastebin.com/vWyaM7s2 < Thats the updated mtr reports mercutio: yeah
this paste has been removed oh
i was having cut and paste issues a,d it added %20 <
yeah that looks good
it's only icmp deprioritisation making it look high mnathani: If the issue persisted, would ARP or the other host look into it? mercutio: nlayer would be the one to look into it mnathani: they probably would not even talk to me - seeing how I am not a customer of theirs
maybe emailing their noc might help mercutio: probably not
nlayer is reasnoably ok mnathani: tinet, gtt, and nlayer are all the same? mercutio: tinet isn't
gtt bought out mzima who bought out nlayer i think? mnathani: In April 2013 GTT acquired the IP network Tinet from Inteliquent, for $54.5 million in cash and services.[6]
as per wikipedia mercutio: oh hazardous: i still stand by my b elief that inteliquent is almost as bad/weird a name as ti sparkle