[00:04] it shoudl aslo probably be extended to 703 and verizon [00:04] err s/verizon/comcast/ [00:05] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:10] up_the_irons: here's a paste [00:10] ip as-path access-list 4 permit _701_ [00:10] ip as-path access-list 4 deny .* [00:10] route-map crappyisp permit 10 [00:10] match as-path 4 [00:10] set as-path prepend 25795 [00:10] I mean http://paste.unixcube.org/k/961352 [00:11] oh did i delete the line somehow [00:11] don't think so [00:11] I just added it [00:11] ok cool [00:11] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has joined #arpnetworks [00:11] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has quit IRC (Changing host) [00:11] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has joined #arpnetworks [00:13] acf_: ok interesting [00:14] http://paste.unixcube.org/k/6e9d7a [00:15] ^ contains more ASNs (in case you wanted to match more) [00:23] verizon is still congesting [00:23] i left a trace running [00:23] i thoguht it was ok by this time normally [00:24] acf: there's also at&t [00:24] maybe just prepend all ntt traffic by one :) [00:24] oh forgot about them [00:25] at&t have two asn's [00:25] are there any others I missed? [00:25] like Time Warner or Frontier or something [00:25] AS7018, AS17233 [00:26] tbh, i think it's better to go step by step [00:26] it's unknown whether it's forward or reverse path [00:26] and level3 isn't advertised yet i think [00:26] yeah [00:27] for Verizon I think we determined forward from arp [00:27] and for every one you add it's good to make note of before/after [00:27] so you can complain to ntt properly :) [00:27] -rw-r--r-- 1 garry garry 13227 Jun 14 2000 objects.php [00:27] hmmm [00:27] that's one OLD server [00:27] it's an old server not an old file? [00:27] is that php3 or php4? :) [00:28] looks like verizon is *not congested* for about 6 hours/day [00:29] oh wow [00:29] that's pretty insane [00:29] that is it's congested 75% of the time [00:29] http://kremvax.acfsys.net/smokeping.cgi?epoch_start=1402988400;hierarchy=;epoch_end=1403024400;target=Remote.verizonnet;displaymode=n;start=2014-06-17%2000%3A00;end=2014-06-17%2010%3A00 [00:29] those are the six [00:29] acf: well some of that level3 blog stuff was disturbing [00:29] 100 gigabit links run to capacity [00:30] I didn't notice the capacity of the links [00:31] oh wow "It is a 100Gbps interconnect in Dallas" [00:33] no excuses for that really [00:33] you can't say it's only a few users [00:35] I wonder if Verizon, etc... will even be better with Level3 [00:35] given that they have the same issues [00:35] i think so [00:35] it's worth a shot [00:35] http://blog.level3.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/route_info_1.jpg [00:36] the text blotched out is potentially "verizon" [00:36] or "comcast" [00:36] up_the_irons could add a static route for /32 of verizon.net [00:36] that's dallas [00:36] that's a really good idea actually [00:36] because it wouldn't really affect anything [00:37] that's how i normally test things [00:56] mercutio: pretty sure that is php3 :) [00:56] yeah it's about the transition time [00:56] and if you aren't quick to leap on new stuff now, you probably wern't back then :) [00:56] :) [00:57] what do you think about our idea of a shared lan segment different from the backup one? [01:01] it's possible [01:01] hardly a lot of demand though [01:02] and really wouldn't be any different than the backup one [01:02] bbl [01:26] *** erratic_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [01:29] *** erratic_ has joined #arpnetworks [01:44] *** erratic_ has quit IRC (Quit: Reconnecting) [01:44] *** erratic_ has joined #arpnetworks [01:46] *** erratic_ has quit IRC (Client Quit) [01:46] *** erratic_ has joined #arpnetworks [01:46] *** erratic_ has quit IRC (Client Quit) [01:47] *** erratic has joined #arpnetworks [01:53] *** erratic has quit IRC (Quit: Changing server) [01:53] *** erratic has joined #arpnetworks [01:57] *** erratic has quit IRC (Client Quit) [02:04] *** erratic has joined #arpnetworks [07:59] *** erratic has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [08:21] I would've guessed PHP4. PHP3 was still traditionally .php3 , the .php didn't come about until php4 [08:21] Of course you could always use whatever extension you wanted... But as far as what the docs showed/said to use. [10:05] *** pyvpx_ is now known as pyvpx [11:28] .phtml [11:28] lol [14:53] *** dferris_ has joined #arpnetworks [14:54] *** dferris_ is now known as dferris [14:54] *** dferris has quit IRC (Client Quit) [14:54] *** dferris has joined #arpnetworks [14:55] *** dferris has quit IRC (Client Quit) [14:56] *** dferris has joined #arpnetworks [15:03] *** erratic has joined #arpnetworks [15:03] *** erratic is now known as Guest3064 [15:43] brycec: point, i wonder :) [15:43] lol phtml [15:44] i don't remember phtml [15:44] heh http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11859015/what-is-phtml-and-when-should-i-use-a-phtml-extension-rather-than-php [15:45] google knows all [15:46] oh php2, i don't remember php2 [15:46] php stated at php3 for me [15:46] Same. I knew of PHP2, but it wasn't really "a thing" yet. PHP3 was when it broke free and got popular [15:46] Also PHP2 sucked [15:46] php still sucks :) [15:47] although at least people are investing in making things faster [15:47] fwiw, apparently lua jit is extremely fast [15:48] PHP sucks for vastly different reasons than PHP2 did [15:48] php2 was still hacked together, php3 they had a working parser and stuff [15:48] And overall, the language is still poorly thought out with inconsistencies everywhere. [15:49] *** Guest3064 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [15:49] like perl [15:49] (Some functions are $needle,$haystack, others are $haystack,$needle. and both need to die in a fire) [15:49] @diaf php [15:49] php, AAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHH IT BURNS IT BURNS IT BURNS. Oh. Wait. No it doesn't. I have no feelings. [15:50] i don't erally like the notion of each page being independant code [15:50] and just pulling in what it needs [15:50] i prefer the idea of applications, that deal with various areas [15:51] and run all the time [15:51] but php is fine as far as footer/header/small amounts of code [15:55] i suppose that's a separate issue [15:55] the problem with php is that it's "good enough" [18:42] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [19:03] *** acanthus has joined #arpnetworks [19:12] *** acanthus has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal) [19:29] *** erratic has joined #arpnetworks [19:29] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [19:30] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has joined #arpnetworks [19:30] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has quit IRC (Changing host) [19:30] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has joined #arpnetworks [19:30] *** cpinkus has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [19:32] hmm lag of 90 seconds atm [19:32] hm [19:42] now it went away [19:43] funny hwo this channel is sometimes very active, adn other times it's just splits, nothing happening etc [19:44] hi [19:45] hi gizmo [19:47] *** erratic has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [19:47] *** erratic has joined #arpnetworks [19:47] *** cpinkus has joined #arpnetworks [19:48] *** erratic is now known as Guest57981 [19:49] howdy gizmoguy [19:49] any OCaml experts around [19:51] *** Guest57981 has quit IRC (Client Quit) [19:54] not i [19:55] *** erratic_ has joined #arpnetworks [20:06] *** erratic__ has joined #arpnetworks [20:06] *** erratic_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [20:20] *** erratic__ has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [20:20] *** erratic_ has joined #arpnetworks [20:37] Anyone else get spam from: ARIN Ticketing System today? [20:37] heh [21:23] whats a good way to copy / paste mtr output so it is still legible? [21:24] resize the wnidow to not be too wide [21:24] and paste it into something with a monospaced font [21:24] it'd be kind of cool if it could automatically just store results [21:25] and be able to create reports etc :) [21:25] if you run it with --report it's easier [21:25] but you don't get result until the end [21:26] thanks, trying --report now [21:27] you do --report-cycles=25 etc for how many you want [21:27] it defaults to 1 a second, so that'll take 25 seconds [21:27] yea set to 100 [21:28] the congestion or whatever that was I was trying to troubleshoot has cleared up though [21:28] that's why repotr is annoying [21:28] because you do a mtr, and you identify an issue [21:28] then you want to reproduce with report and it's behaving itself. [21:29] http://pastebin.com/F73iFTPQ [21:29] thats my mtr report showing both directions [21:30] 80msec is kinda high though for LAX to SJE [21:31] damn nlayer and their icmp deprioristation [21:31] it's going cia chicago i think? [21:31] ae4-587.cr2.ord1.us.nlayer.net [21:31] that's chicago right? [21:31] looks like it [21:31] @iata ord [21:31] ORD: O'Hare International Airport (formerly Orchard Depot Field) located in Chicago, Illinois, United States [21:32] so nlayer san jose to los angeles is via chicago [21:32] so nlayer have a down link in california i imagine [21:32] because i imagnie normally it's direct [21:32] what about above.net [21:32] lax to sje with 80msec [21:32] ho hmm [21:33] ahh.. but what's the return path for above.net ? [21:33] from san jose [21:33] nlayer again? [21:33] traceroutes really confuse me [21:33] oh, it looks iltk it yes [21:33] so yeah it's just the nlayer issue [21:33] most liskely [21:33] it's what 10 msec from san jose to los angeles noramlly [21:34] and 55 msec from san jose to chicago? [21:34] that's both directions [21:34] so really it's behaving like it's going via chicago in both directions latency wise [21:34] so it may be that there's congestion due to link failure as well [21:35] it's 52 msec to chicago from asn jose [21:35] san [21:35] via cogent [21:35] and 60 msec from los angeles [21:35] lol [21:35] its back to sub 15msec [21:35] end to end [21:35] that's still high [21:36] i'm getting 8.9 msec from san jose to los angeles [21:36] but i suppose that's normal if it's dsl/cable/etc [21:36] more like 10msec actually [21:36] oh yip [21:36] that's what you'd expect [21:36] so yeah i'd go with some congestion plus rerouting [21:38] where congestion was prboably created from the rerouting [21:39] atleast they didnt just drop the packets [21:40] http://pastebin.com/vWyaM7s2 < Thats the updated mtr reports [21:40] yeah [21:41] this paste has been removed oh [21:41] i was having cut and paste issues a,d it added %20 < [21:42] yeah that looks good [21:42] it's only icmp deprioritisation making it look high [21:43] If the issue persisted, would ARP or the other host look into it? [21:45] nlayer would be the one to look into it [21:45] they probably would not even talk to me - seeing how I am not a customer of theirs [21:45] maybe emailing their noc might help [21:47] probably not [21:47] nlayer is reasnoably ok [21:58] tinet, gtt, and nlayer are all the same? [21:58] tinet isn't [21:58] gtt bought out mzima who bought out nlayer i think? [21:59] In April 2013 GTT acquired the IP network Tinet from Inteliquent, for $54.5 million in cash and services.[6] [21:59] as per wikipedia [21:59] oh [23:13] i still stand by my b elief that inteliquent is almost as bad/weird a name as ti sparkle