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| mercutio | it shoudl aslo probably be extended to 703 and verizon
err s/verizon/comcast/ | [00:04] |
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| acf_ | up_the_irons: here's a paste
ip as-path access-list 4 permit _701_ ip as-path access-list 4 deny .* route-map crappyisp permit 10 match as-path 4 set as-path prepend 25795 I mean http://paste.unixcube.org/k/961352 | [00:10] |
| mercutio | oh did i delete the line somehow | [00:11] |
| acf_ | don't think so
I just added it | [00:11] |
| mercutio | ok cool | [00:11] |
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| up_the_irons | acf_: ok interesting | [00:13] |
| acf_ | http://paste.unixcube.org/k/6e9d7a
^ contains more ASNs (in case you wanted to match more) | [00:14] |
| mercutio | verizon is still congesting
i left a trace running i thoguht it was ok by this time normally acf: there's also at&t maybe just prepend all ntt traffic by one :) | [00:23] |
| acf_ | oh forgot about them | [00:24] |
| mercutio | at&t have two asn's | [00:25] |
| acf_ | are there any others I missed?
like Time Warner or Frontier or something | [00:25] |
| mercutio | AS7018, AS17233
tbh, i think it's better to go step by step it's unknown whether it's forward or reverse path and level3 isn't advertised yet i think | [00:25] |
| acf_ | yeah
for Verizon I think we determined forward from arp | [00:26] |
| mercutio | and for every one you add it's good to make note of before/after
so you can complain to ntt properly :) | [00:27] |
| up_the_irons | -rw-r--r-- 1 garry garry 13227 Jun 14 2000 objects.php
hmmm that's one OLD server | [00:27] |
| mercutio | it's an old server not an old file?
is that php3 or php4? :) | [00:27] |
| acf_ | looks like verizon is *not congested* for about 6 hours/day | [00:28] |
| mercutio | oh wow
that's pretty insane | [00:29] |
| acf_ | that is it's congested 75% of the time
http://kremvax.acfsys.net/smokeping.cgi?epoch_start=1402988400;hierarchy=;epoch_end=1403024400;target=Remote.verizonnet;displaymode=n;start=2014-06-17%2000%3A00;end=2014-06-17%2010%3A00 those are the six | [00:29] |
| mercutio | acf: well some of that level3 blog stuff was disturbing
100 gigabit links run to capacity | [00:29] |
| acf_ | I didn't notice the capacity of the links
oh wow "It is a 100Gbps interconnect in Dallas" | [00:30] |
| mercutio | no excuses for that really
you can't say it's only a few users | [00:33] |
| acf_ | I wonder if Verizon, etc... will even be better with Level3
given that they have the same issues | [00:35] |
| mercutio | i think so
it's worth a shot | [00:35] |
| acf_ | http://blog.level3.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/route_info_1.jpg
the text blotched out is potentially "verizon" or "comcast" | [00:35] |
| mercutio | up_the_irons could add a static route for /32 of verizon.net
that's dallas | [00:36] |
| acf_ | that's a really good idea actually
because it wouldn't really affect anything | [00:36] |
| mercutio | that's how i normally test things | [00:37] |
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| up_the_irons | mercutio: pretty sure that is php3 :) | [00:56] |
| mercutio | yeah it's about the transition time
and if you aren't quick to leap on new stuff now, you probably wern't back then :) | [00:56] |
| up_the_irons | :) | [00:56] |
| mercutio | what do you think about our idea of a shared lan segment different from the backup one? | [00:57] |
| up_the_irons | it's possible
hardly a lot of demand though and really wouldn't be any different than the backup one bbl | [01:01] |
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| brycec | I would've guessed PHP4. PHP3 was still traditionally .php3 , the .php didn't come about until php4
Of course you could always use whatever extension you wanted... But as far as what the docs showed/said to use. | [08:21] |
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| hazardous | .phtml
lol | [11:28] |
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| mercutio | brycec: point, i wonder :) | [15:43] |
| brycec | lol phtml | [15:43] |
| mercutio | i don't remember phtml | [15:44] |
| brycec | heh http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11859015/what-is-phtml-and-when-should-i-use-a-phtml-extension-rather-than-php | [15:44] |
| mercutio | google knows all
oh php2, i don't remember php2 php stated at php3 for me | [15:45] |
| brycec | Same. I knew of PHP2, but it wasn't really "a thing" yet. PHP3 was when it broke free and got popular
Also PHP2 sucked | [15:46] |
| mercutio | php still sucks :)
although at least people are investing in making things faster fwiw, apparently lua jit is extremely fast | [15:46] |
| brycec | PHP sucks for vastly different reasons than PHP2 did
php2 was still hacked together, php3 they had a working parser and stuff And overall, the language is still poorly thought out with inconsistencies everywhere. | [15:48] |
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| mercutio | like perl | [15:49] |
| brycec | (Some functions are $needle,$haystack, others are $haystack,$needle. and both need to die in a fire)
@diaf php | [15:49] |
| BryceBot | php, AAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHH IT BURNS IT BURNS IT BURNS. Oh. Wait. No it doesn't. I have no feelings. | [15:49] |
| mercutio | i don't erally like the notion of each page being independant code
and just pulling in what it needs i prefer the idea of applications, that deal with various areas and run all the time but php is fine as far as footer/header/small amounts of code i suppose that's a separate issue the problem with php is that it's "good enough" | [15:50] |
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| mercutio | hmm lag of 90 seconds atm | [19:32] |
| m0unds | hm | [19:32] |
| mercutio | now it went away
funny hwo this channel is sometimes very active, adn other times it's just splits, nothing happening etc | [19:42] |
| gizmoguy | hi | [19:44] |
| mercutio | hi gizmo | [19:45] |
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| m0unds | howdy gizmoguy | [19:49] |
| gizmoguy | any OCaml experts around | [19:49] |
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| mercutio | not i | [19:54] |
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| mnathani | Anyone else get spam from: ARIN Ticketing System today? | [20:37] |
| erratic_ | heh | [20:37] |
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| mnathani | whats a good way to copy / paste mtr output so it is still legible? | [21:23] |
| mercutio | resize the wnidow to not be too wide
and paste it into something with a monospaced font it'd be kind of cool if it could automatically just store results and be able to create reports etc :) if you run it with --report it's easier but you don't get result until the end | [21:24] |
| mnathani | thanks, trying --report now | [21:26] |
| mercutio | you do --report-cycles=25 etc for how many you want
it defaults to 1 a second, so that'll take 25 seconds | [21:27] |
| mnathani | yea set to 100
the congestion or whatever that was I was trying to troubleshoot has cleared up though | [21:27] |
| mercutio | that's why repotr is annoying
because you do a mtr, and you identify an issue then you want to reproduce with report and it's behaving itself. | [21:28] |
| mnathani | http://pastebin.com/F73iFTPQ
thats my mtr report showing both directions 80msec is kinda high though for LAX to SJE | [21:29] |
| mercutio | damn nlayer and their icmp deprioristation
it's going cia chicago i think? ae4-587.cr2.ord1.us.nlayer.net that's chicago right? | [21:31] |
| mnathani | looks like it
@iata ord | [21:31] |
| BryceBot | ORD: O'Hare International Airport (formerly Orchard Depot Field) located in Chicago, Illinois, United States | [21:31] |
| mercutio | so nlayer san jose to los angeles is via chicago
so nlayer have a down link in california i imagine because i imagnie normally it's direct | [21:32] |
| mnathani | what about above.net
lax to sje with 80msec | [21:32] |
| mercutio | ho hmm
ahh.. but what's the return path for above.net ? from san jose | [21:32] |
| mnathani | nlayer again?
traceroutes really confuse me | [21:33] |
| mercutio | oh, it looks iltk it yes
so yeah it's just the nlayer issue most liskely it's what 10 msec from san jose to los angeles noramlly and 55 msec from san jose to chicago? that's both directions so really it's behaving like it's going via chicago in both directions latency wise so it may be that there's congestion due to link failure as well it's 52 msec to chicago from asn jose san via cogent and 60 msec from los angeles | [21:33] |
| mnathani | lol
its back to sub 15msec end to end | [21:35] |
| mercutio | that's still high
i'm getting 8.9 msec from san jose to los angeles but i suppose that's normal if it's dsl/cable/etc | [21:35] |
| mnathani | more like 10msec actually | [21:36] |
| mercutio | oh yip
that's what you'd expect so yeah i'd go with some congestion plus rerouting where congestion was prboably created from the rerouting | [21:36] |
| mnathani | atleast they didnt just drop the packets
http://pastebin.com/vWyaM7s2 < Thats the updated mtr reports | [21:39] |
| mercutio | yeah
this paste has been removed oh i was having cut and paste issues a,d it added %20 < yeah that looks good it's only icmp deprioritisation making it look high | [21:40] |
| mnathani | If the issue persisted, would ARP or the other host look into it? | [21:43] |
| mercutio | nlayer would be the one to look into it | [21:45] |
| mnathani | they probably would not even talk to me - seeing how I am not a customer of theirs
maybe emailing their noc might help | [21:45] |
| mercutio | probably not
nlayer is reasnoably ok | [21:47] |
| mnathani | tinet, gtt, and nlayer are all the same? | [21:58] |
| mercutio | tinet isn't
gtt bought out mzima who bought out nlayer i think? | [21:58] |
| mnathani | In April 2013 GTT acquired the IP network Tinet from Inteliquent, for $54.5 million in cash and services.[6]
as per wikipedia | [21:59] |
| mercutio | oh | [21:59] |
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| hazardous | i still stand by my b elief that inteliquent is almost as bad/weird a name as ti sparkle | [23:13] |
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