he probably will answer tonight heh
not sure though :)
i'd just renumber off the old /30 and have new /29
it's 5 ip's vs 1
and 8 ip's used rather than 12, and ip's are running short
hmmm
any admins on?
oh I see its unavail cos I did not identify
I wish I could expedite my service requests
Im anxious to get started setting this stuff up
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up_the_irons: are there any plans on providing an ARP networks looking glass, to help other providers troubleshoot their BGP issues?
mnathani: Sorry for interupting, but you have nothing to do with Bahamut right? :D
anisfarhana: Seeing how I have no idea what you are talking about, I do not have anything to do with Bahamut
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mnathani: Oh no problem then :) Thanks
sigh
I like arpnetworks but I feel like its kinda ridiculously oversold because its been an entire day and ive heard not much of anything about the /48 or how to purchase the /29
That's not "oversold" that's the guy's busy with $life
"oversold" typically refers to the hosts being oversubscribed
@last up_the_irons
brycec, I last saw up_the_irons 4 days 3 hours 14 min 58 sec ago saying in a channel: m0unds: roger.
i'm sure he'll get to it shortly p9ige
actually, i don't think he does much in weekend normally
and it's only just monday now in US
Well it's Monday night
So there's an expectation that he would've checked in at some point by now
yeh, but i think most new requets are done in evenings
p9ige: he'll get to it
just sometimes he likes to take a break from work I think :)
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BryceBot: ahh, but he joins and quits all the time
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acf_: can't blame him I'll bet it's a drain
I wonder if they're using openstack or just using virt-manager
virt-manager is pretty nice
I think he uses Qemu/KVM with an in-house management system
I had pretty good luck with the inhouse setup I had back at my last job
I setup several gentoo servers with kvm on ssds, wanted to setup a dfs of some sort like maybe ceph
I never got too deep into making a full blown cluster
but was thinking just use qcow images on a ceph fs would have been nice esp if I could move a vm to another vhost without having to completely power it off and have it literally move the qcow image or replicate it across both if I wanted
lots of neat ideas that it could all work in theory but in practice I'm not sure
but I started learning about it
yeah. virtualization is neat
I bought a dual 8 core machine with 64 gigs of ram  which I eventually loaned to somebody who killed himself
dont think Im ever gonna see it agian
It would have been nice to set that up in the network I'm building now at a friend's house or something
oh well
pretty heart broken about it, both the server and my friend
I just want to forget about it
lol
yeah, sorry to hear about that
but yeah I donno it might be cool to hook up some rasperry pi's or something into the network I'm building for a mail server and some other stuff
you can get some nice, although older, equipment for a pretty good price on ebay too
well I've always liked the idea of being able to spread out my servers and have them be as low profile as possible
and I dont need a shit ton of bandwidth for it so this works out perfect
yea, I see what you mean
I just have a feeling that raspberry pis will be a bit limiting
yeah perhaps, I've never messed with them
I stay away from them mostly because people buy them and are like yay Im l33t
and don't do anything with them
lol
yeah, a lot of hype
there are other ARM single board computers though
the cheap as possible route does make it feasible to setup rogue boxes though
"rouge boxes"?
like I mean if you can cram one into a drop ceiling in a bathroom somewhere (somehow find power for it and set it up to wifi hop)
lol
I have given lots of thought and consideration to this idea but never have
I like my boxes at home :)
it's an interesting idea
not sure about what purpose it would serve though
I don't have reliable internet here at home, I just use my phone
and it goes with me everywhere
ah, I see
oh that's right, you're moving soon too
and its a pain in the ass to move stuff around, over the years maintaining servers at home has proven to be impossible for me
yep
gonna be moving around for awhile at least
that's an interesting idea
an NLNOG ring
made up of raspberry pis in drop ceilings around the world
but yeah I keep dreaming of the day when i will get back to running a cyrus imap setup with sieve
you can at arp
I wrote a program to convert my gmail filters to sieve filters, and I had a roundcube mail setup with a free ssl certificate (not that ssl did me any favors) and I was using prq.se to host it at home on a VPN tunnel
thats the plan
that among anything else that will help me be productive
yeah prq.se was a cool idea since they bill in bitcoin but its such a pain in the ass to get setup, they don't do any vps hosting, your next best option is dedicated and I can't justify it
I wonder if arp can do 10gbe drops for customers or bonded 10gbe
my friend who works for an ISP here in seattle says they're getting ready to start doing 10x10
afaik arp has gigabit ethernet to most of its upstream
I wonder if they could do bonded 1gbe for me
do you really *need* more than gigabit?
no just a curiosity
I guess at that point it wouldnt matte r
I think if you need bonded gigabit, arp isn't quite the provider for you
I might be wrong though
yeah prob not
Im not sure who would be I guess is the only reason I'm interested
Ive never needed anything like that lol
I think at that point you could buy transit from he.net, NTT, etc...
yeah
have you ever setup any big multicast networks with ipv4?
like if I wanted to multicast load balancers for HTTP because HTTP rr is weird and janky
no, I haven't touched multicast really
multicast and HTTP?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicast
Multicast :: In computer networking, multicast (one-to-many or many-to-many distribution) is group communication where information is addressed to a group of destination computers simultaneously. Multicast should not be confused with physical layer point-to-multipoint communication.  Group communication may either be application layer multicast or network assisted multicast, where the latter makes it possible for the source to efficiently...
anycast, sorry
I've heard of anycast HTTP
yeah
I think I read a paper on it once...
not as good as dns, which is truly stateless
Ive never touched the stuff but I read up on it quite a bit because we were considering it
right
you'd need to do BGP of course
and have servers in multiple places
and take care of session state communication between nodes, etc...
*nod*
this is rather interesting
http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog37/presentations/matt.levine.pdf
I would like to make it out to nanog someday
neat
yeah I seem to remember reading you need a pretty big block to set up anycast
block of IPs?
just a /24 I think
yeah
because that's the minimum size to announce
with BGP
thats gotta get kinda spendy
heh http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1102025
I'm sure the people who do anycast have lots of money
well, you'd get the /24 and an ASN from ARIN
and announce the block yourself at each location
lots of publice DNS services do anycast
I think google (8.8.8.8) does
also Level3 (4.2.2.2)
we just used cloudflare
oh right, them too
which broke a bunch of stuff for folks I heard
how's that?
specifically seo stuff
I am really not sure
I don't do seo
hmm, don't quite see how that works, but I don't do seo either
yeah another person I used to work for I was checking out their networks and asked her about the caching servers they use and this led to a conversation about seo and cloudflare
was a while ago
maybe she was talking about their cdn
that would make sense
yeah, probably
I don't think search engines care about dns
nah