[03:06] <mercutio> he probably will answer tonight heh
[03:06] <mercutio> not sure though :)
[03:06] <mercutio> i'd just renumber off the old /30 and have new /29
[03:06] <mercutio> it's 5 ip's vs 1
[03:07] <mercutio> and 8 ip's used rather than 12, and ip's are running short
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[07:51] <Erick-> hmmm
[07:51] <Erick-> any admins on?
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[16:24] <p9ige> oh I see its unavail cos I did not identify
[16:26] <p9ige> I wish I could expedite my service requests
[16:26] <p9ige> Im anxious to get started setting this stuff up
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[16:30] <p9ige> "The American" — Go Big or Go Home GOL DANG MAN WAVE THE AMERICAN FLAG
[16:30] <p9ige> YEEEE HAWWW
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[18:55] <mnathani> up_the_irons: are there any plans on providing an ARP networks looking glass, to help other providers troubleshoot their BGP issues?
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[19:14] <anisfarhana> mnathani: Sorry for interupting, but you have nothing to do with Bahamut right? :D
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[19:36] <mnathani> anisfarhana: Seeing how I have no idea what you are talking about, I do not have anything to do with Bahamut
[19:36] <mnathani> @google bahamut
[19:36] <BryceBot> 953,000 total results returned for 'bahamut', here's 3
[19:36] <BryceBot> Bahamut - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahamut) Bahamut or Bahamoot is a vast fish that supports the earth in Arabian mythology.  In some sources, Bahamut is described as having a head resembling a ...
[19:36] <BryceBot> Rage of Bahamut - Android Apps on Google Play (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobage.ww.a692.Bahamut_Android) Over 8000000 people worldwide are playing Rage of Bahamut, the original free- to-play collectible card game on Android and iOS. This deceptively simple ...
[19:36] <BryceBot> Bahamut (Dungeons & Dragons) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahamut_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons)) In the Dungeons & Dragons (D&D) role-playing game, Bahamut 2] is a powerful  draconic deity, who has the same name as Bahamut from Arabic mythology.
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[19:39] <anisfarhana> mnathani: Oh no problem then :) Thanks
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[20:55] <p9ige> sigh
[20:56] <p9ige> I like arpnetworks but I feel like its kinda ridiculously oversold because its been an entire day and ive heard not much of anything about the /48 or how to purchase the /29
[21:00] <brycec> That's not "oversold" that's the guy's busy with $life
[21:00] <brycec> "oversold" typically refers to the hosts being oversubscribed
[21:00] <brycec> @last up_the_irons
[21:01] <BryceBot> brycec, I last saw up_the_irons 4 days 3 hours 14 min 58 sec ago saying in a channel: m0unds: roger.
[21:03] <mercutio> i'm sure he'll get to it shortly p9ige
[21:05] <mercutio> actually, i don't think he does much in weekend normally
[21:05] <mercutio> and it's only just monday now in US
[21:05] <brycec> Well it's Monday night
[21:05] <brycec> So there's an expectation that he would've checked in at some point by now
[21:05] <mercutio> yeh, but i think most new requets are done in evenings
[21:07] <acf_> p9ige: he'll get to it
[21:08] <acf_> just sometimes he likes to take a break from work I think :)
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[22:09] <mnathani> @last toddf
[22:09] <BryceBot> mnathani, I last saw toddf 2 days 23 hours 2 min 18 sec ago joining a channel.
[22:09] <mnathani> BryceBot: ahh, but he joins and quits all the time
[22:21] <mnathani> @last [FBI]
[22:21] <BryceBot> mnathani, I last saw [FBI] 9 days 20 hours 19 min 20 sec ago (Sat, 07 Jun 2014 02:01:52 -0700) joining a channel.
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[22:39] <p9ige> acf_: can't blame him I'll bet it's a drain
[22:39] <p9ige> I wonder if they're using openstack or just using virt-manager
[22:39] <p9ige> virt-manager is pretty nice
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[22:40] <acf_> I think he uses Qemu/KVM with an in-house management system
[22:41] <erratic> I had pretty good luck with the inhouse setup I had back at my last job
[22:41] <erratic> I setup several gentoo servers with kvm on ssds, wanted to setup a dfs of some sort like maybe ceph
[22:42] <erratic> I never got too deep into making a full blown cluster
[22:43] <erratic> but was thinking just use qcow images on a ceph fs would have been nice esp if I could move a vm to another vhost without having to completely power it off and have it literally move the qcow image or replicate it across both if I wanted
[22:43] <erratic> lots of neat ideas that it could all work in theory but in practice I'm not sure
[22:43] <erratic> but I started learning about it
[22:44] <acf_> yeah. virtualization is neat
[22:44] <erratic> I bought a dual 8 core machine with 64 gigs of ram  which I eventually loaned to somebody who killed himself
[22:44] <erratic> dont think Im ever gonna see it agian
[22:45] <erratic> It would have been nice to set that up in the network I'm building now at a friend's house or something
[22:45] <erratic> oh well
[22:45] <erratic> pretty heart broken about it, both the server and my friend
[22:45] <erratic> I just want to forget about it
[22:45] <erratic> lol
[22:46] <acf_> yeah, sorry to hear about that
[22:46] <erratic> but yeah I donno it might be cool to hook up some rasperry pi's or something into the network I'm building for a mail server and some other stuff
[22:46] <acf_> you can get some nice, although older, equipment for a pretty good price on ebay too
[22:47] <erratic> well I've always liked the idea of being able to spread out my servers and have them be as low profile as possible
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[22:47] <erratic> and I dont need a shit ton of bandwidth for it so this works out perfect
[22:48] <acf_> yea, I see what you mean
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[22:48] <acf_> I just have a feeling that raspberry pis will be a bit limiting
[22:48] <erratic> yeah perhaps, I've never messed with them
[22:48] <erratic> I stay away from them mostly because people buy them and are like yay Im l33t
[22:48] <erratic> and don't do anything with them
[22:48] <erratic> lol
[22:49] <acf_> yeah, a lot of hype
[22:49] <acf_> there are other ARM single board computers though
[22:49] <erratic> the cheap as possible route does make it feasible to setup rogue boxes though
[22:50] <acf_> "rouge boxes"?
[22:51] <erratic> like I mean if you can cram one into a drop ceiling in a bathroom somewhere (somehow find power for it and set it up to wifi hop)
[22:51] <erratic> lol
[22:51] <erratic> I have given lots of thought and consideration to this idea but never have
[22:52] <acf_> I like my boxes at home :)
[22:52] <acf_> it's an interesting idea
[22:52] <acf_> not sure about what purpose it would serve though
[22:52] <erratic> I don't have reliable internet here at home, I just use my phone
[22:52] <erratic> and it goes with me everywhere
[22:52] <acf_> ah, I see
[22:53] <acf_> oh that's right, you're moving soon too
[22:53] <erratic> and its a pain in the ass to move stuff around, over the years maintaining servers at home has proven to be impossible for me
[22:53] <erratic> yep
[22:53] <erratic> gonna be moving around for awhile at least
[22:54] <acf_> that's an interesting idea
[22:54] <acf_> an NLNOG ring
[22:54] <acf_> made up of raspberry pis in drop ceilings around the world
[22:54] <erratic> but yeah I keep dreaming of the day when i will get back to running a cyrus imap setup with sieve
[22:55] <acf_> you can at arp
[22:55] <erratic> I wrote a program to convert my gmail filters to sieve filters, and I had a roundcube mail setup with a free ssl certificate (not that ssl did me any favors) and I was using prq.se to host it at home on a VPN tunnel
[22:55] <erratic> thats the plan
[22:55] <erratic> that among anything else that will help me be productive
[22:57] <erratic> yeah prq.se was a cool idea since they bill in bitcoin but its such a pain in the ass to get setup, they don't do any vps hosting, your next best option is dedicated and I can't justify it
[22:58] <erratic> I wonder if arp can do 10gbe drops for customers or bonded 10gbe
[22:58] <erratic> my friend who works for an ISP here in seattle says they're getting ready to start doing 10x10
[22:58] <acf_> afaik arp has gigabit ethernet to most of its upstream
[22:58] <erratic> I wonder if they could do bonded 1gbe for me
[22:58] <acf_> do you really *need* more than gigabit?
[22:59] <erratic> no just a curiosity
[22:59] <erratic> I guess at that point it wouldnt matte r
[22:59] <acf_> I think if you need bonded gigabit, arp isn't quite the provider for you
[22:59] <acf_> I might be wrong though
[22:59] <erratic> yeah prob not
[23:00] <erratic> Im not sure who would be I guess is the only reason I'm interested
[23:00] <erratic> Ive never needed anything like that lol
[23:00] <acf_> I think at that point you could buy transit from he.net, NTT, etc...
[23:01] <erratic> yeah
[23:01] <erratic> have you ever setup any big multicast networks with ipv4?
[23:01] <erratic> like if I wanted to multicast load balancers for HTTP because HTTP rr is weird and janky
[23:01] <acf_> no, I haven't touched multicast really
[23:02] <acf_> multicast and HTTP?
[23:02] <acf_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicast
[23:02] <BryceBot> Multicast :: In computer networking, multicast (one-to-many or many-to-many distribution) is group communication where information is addressed to a group of destination computers simultaneously. Multicast should not be confused with physical layer point-to-multipoint communication.  Group communication may either be application layer multicast or network assisted multicast, where the latter makes it possible for the source to efficiently...
[23:03] <erratic> anycast, sorry
[23:03] <acf_> I've heard of anycast HTTP
[23:03] <erratic> yeah
[23:03] <acf_> I think I read a paper on it once...
[23:03] <acf_> not as good as dns, which is truly stateless
[23:03] <erratic> Ive never touched the stuff but I read up on it quite a bit because we were considering it
[23:03] <erratic> right
[23:04] <acf_> you'd need to do BGP of course
[23:04] <acf_> and have servers in multiple places
[23:04] <acf_> and take care of session state communication between nodes, etc...
[23:05] <erratic> *nod*
[23:06] <acf_> this is rather interesting
[23:06] <acf_> http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog37/presentations/matt.levine.pdf
[23:06] <erratic> I would like to make it out to nanog someday
[23:08] <erratic> neat
[23:08] <erratic> yeah I seem to remember reading you need a pretty big block to set up anycast
[23:09] <acf_> block of IPs?
[23:09] <acf_> just a /24 I think
[23:09] <erratic> yeah
[23:09] <acf_> because that's the minimum size to announce
[23:10] <acf_> with BGP
[23:11] <erratic> thats gotta get kinda spendy
[23:11] <erratic> heh http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1102025
[23:11] <acf_> I'm sure the people who do anycast have lots of money
[23:12] <acf_> well, you'd get the /24 and an ASN from ARIN
[23:12] <acf_> and announce the block yourself at each location
[23:12] <acf_> lots of publice DNS services do anycast
[23:13] <acf_> I think google (8.8.8.8) does
[23:13] <acf_> also Level3 (4.2.2.2)
[23:13] <erratic> we just used cloudflare
[23:13] <acf_> oh right, them too
[23:14] <erratic> which broke a bunch of stuff for folks I heard
[23:14] <acf_> how's that?
[23:14] <erratic> specifically seo stuff
[23:14] <erratic> I am really not sure
[23:14] <erratic> I don't do seo
[23:15] <acf_> hmm, don't quite see how that works, but I don't do seo either
[23:16] <erratic> yeah another person I used to work for I was checking out their networks and asked her about the caching servers they use and this led to a conversation about seo and cloudflare
[23:16] <erratic> was a while ago
[23:16] <erratic> maybe she was talking about their cdn
[23:16] <erratic> that would make sense
[23:16] <acf_> yeah, probably
[23:16] <acf_> I don't think search engines care about dns
[23:17] <erratic> nah