[03:06] he probably will answer tonight heh [03:06] not sure though :) [03:06] i'd just renumber off the old /30 and have new /29 [03:06] it's 5 ip's vs 1 [03:07] and 8 ip's used rather than 12, and ip's are running short [04:29] *** novae has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [07:51] hmmm [07:51] any admins on? 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[19:07] *** cpinkus has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) [19:09] *** cpinkus has joined #arpnetworks [19:14] mnathani: Sorry for interupting, but you have nothing to do with Bahamut right? :D [19:16] *** cpinkus has quit IRC (Changing host) [19:16] *** cpinkus has joined #arpnetworks [19:27] *** cpinkus has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) [19:28] *** cpinkus has joined #arpnetworks [19:36] anisfarhana: Seeing how I have no idea what you are talking about, I do not have anything to do with Bahamut [19:36] @google bahamut [19:36] 953,000 total results returned for 'bahamut', here's 3 [19:36] Bahamut - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahamut) Bahamut or Bahamoot is a vast fish that supports the earth in Arabian mythology. In some sources, Bahamut is described as having a head resembling a ... [19:36] Rage of Bahamut - Android Apps on Google Play (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobage.ww.a692.Bahamut_Android) Over 8000000 people worldwide are playing Rage of Bahamut, the original free- to-play collectible card game on Android and iOS. This deceptively simple ... [19:36] Bahamut (Dungeons & Dragons) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahamut_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons)) In the Dungeons & Dragons (D&D) role-playing game, Bahamut 2] is a powerful draconic deity, who has the same name as Bahamut from Arabic mythology. [19:38] *** Erick- has left "Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com" [19:39] mnathani: Oh no problem then :) Thanks [19:47] *** cpinkus has left "WeeChat 0.4.3" [19:47] *** cpinkus has joined #arpnetworks [19:55] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [20:09] *** staticsafe|2 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [20:42] *** eryc has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [20:43] *** eryc has joined #arpnetworks [20:43] *** eryc has quit IRC (Changing host) [20:43] *** eryc has joined #arpnetworks [20:55] sigh [20:56] I like arpnetworks but I feel like its kinda ridiculously oversold because its been an entire day and ive heard not much of anything about the /48 or how to purchase the /29 [21:00] That's not "oversold" that's the guy's busy with $life [21:00] "oversold" typically refers to the hosts being oversubscribed [21:00] @last up_the_irons [21:01] brycec, I last saw up_the_irons 4 days 3 hours 14 min 58 sec ago saying in a channel: m0unds: roger. [21:03] i'm sure he'll get to it shortly p9ige [21:05] actually, i don't think he does much in weekend normally [21:05] and it's only just monday now in US [21:05] Well it's Monday night [21:05] So there's an expectation that he would've checked in at some point by now [21:05] yeh, but i think most new requets are done in evenings [21:07] p9ige: he'll get to it [21:08] just sometimes he likes to take a break from work I think :) [21:30] *** Hien has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [21:40] *** Hien has joined #arpnetworks [21:44] *** p9ige has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [22:09] @last toddf [22:09] mnathani, I last saw toddf 2 days 23 hours 2 min 18 sec ago joining a channel. [22:09] BryceBot: ahh, but he joins and quits all the time [22:21] @last [FBI] [22:21] mnathani, I last saw [FBI] 9 days 20 hours 19 min 20 sec ago (Sat, 07 Jun 2014 02:01:52 -0700) joining a channel. [22:37] *** p9ige has joined #arpnetworks [22:39] acf_: can't blame him I'll bet it's a drain [22:39] I wonder if they're using openstack or just using virt-manager [22:39] virt-manager is pretty nice [22:39] *** p9ige is now known as erratic [22:40] I think he uses Qemu/KVM with an in-house management system [22:41] I had pretty good luck with the inhouse setup I had back at my last job [22:41] I setup several gentoo servers with kvm on ssds, wanted to setup a dfs of some sort like maybe ceph [22:42] I never got too deep into making a full blown cluster [22:43] but was thinking just use qcow images on a ceph fs would have been nice esp if I could move a vm to another vhost without having to completely power it off and have it literally move the qcow image or replicate it across both if I wanted [22:43] lots of neat ideas that it could all work in theory but in practice I'm not sure [22:43] but I started learning about it [22:44] yeah. virtualization is neat [22:44] I bought a dual 8 core machine with 64 gigs of ram which I eventually loaned to somebody who killed himself [22:44] dont think Im ever gonna see it agian [22:45] It would have been nice to set that up in the network I'm building now at a friend's house or something [22:45] oh well [22:45] pretty heart broken about it, both the server and my friend [22:45] I just want to forget about it [22:45] lol [22:46] yeah, sorry to hear about that [22:46] but yeah I donno it might be cool to hook up some rasperry pi's or something into the network I'm building for a mail server and some other stuff [22:46] you can get some nice, although older, equipment for a pretty good price on ebay too [22:47] well I've always liked the idea of being able to spread out my servers and have them be as low profile as possible [22:47] *** toddf has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [22:47] and I dont need a shit ton of bandwidth for it so this works out perfect [22:48] yea, I see what you mean [22:48] *** toddf has joined #arpnetworks [22:48] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o toddf [22:48] I just have a feeling that raspberry pis will be a bit limiting [22:48] yeah perhaps, I've never messed with them [22:48] I stay away from them mostly because people buy them and are like yay Im l33t [22:48] and don't do anything with them [22:48] lol [22:49] yeah, a lot of hype [22:49] there are other ARM single board computers though [22:49] the cheap as possible route does make it feasible to setup rogue boxes though [22:50] "rouge boxes"? [22:51] like I mean if you can cram one into a drop ceiling in a bathroom somewhere (somehow find power for it and set it up to wifi hop) [22:51] lol [22:51] I have given lots of thought and consideration to this idea but never have [22:52] I like my boxes at home :) [22:52] it's an interesting idea [22:52] not sure about what purpose it would serve though [22:52] I don't have reliable internet here at home, I just use my phone [22:52] and it goes with me everywhere [22:52] ah, I see [22:53] oh that's right, you're moving soon too [22:53] and its a pain in the ass to move stuff around, over the years maintaining servers at home has proven to be impossible for me [22:53] yep [22:53] gonna be moving around for awhile at least [22:54] that's an interesting idea [22:54] an NLNOG ring [22:54] made up of raspberry pis in drop ceilings around the world [22:54] but yeah I keep dreaming of the day when i will get back to running a cyrus imap setup with sieve [22:55] you can at arp [22:55] I wrote a program to convert my gmail filters to sieve filters, and I had a roundcube mail setup with a free ssl certificate (not that ssl did me any favors) and I was using prq.se to host it at home on a VPN tunnel [22:55] thats the plan [22:55] that among anything else that will help me be productive [22:57] yeah prq.se was a cool idea since they bill in bitcoin but its such a pain in the ass to get setup, they don't do any vps hosting, your next best option is dedicated and I can't justify it [22:58] I wonder if arp can do 10gbe drops for customers or bonded 10gbe [22:58] my friend who works for an ISP here in seattle says they're getting ready to start doing 10x10 [22:58] afaik arp has gigabit ethernet to most of its upstream [22:58] I wonder if they could do bonded 1gbe for me [22:58] do you really *need* more than gigabit? [22:59] no just a curiosity [22:59] I guess at that point it wouldnt matte r [22:59] I think if you need bonded gigabit, arp isn't quite the provider for you [22:59] I might be wrong though [22:59] yeah prob not [23:00] Im not sure who would be I guess is the only reason I'm interested [23:00] Ive never needed anything like that lol [23:00] I think at that point you could buy transit from he.net, NTT, etc... [23:01] yeah [23:01] have you ever setup any big multicast networks with ipv4? [23:01] like if I wanted to multicast load balancers for HTTP because HTTP rr is weird and janky [23:01] no, I haven't touched multicast really [23:02] multicast and HTTP? [23:02] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicast [23:02] Multicast :: In computer networking, multicast (one-to-many or many-to-many distribution) is group communication where information is addressed to a group of destination computers simultaneously. Multicast should not be confused with physical layer point-to-multipoint communication. Group communication may either be application layer multicast or network assisted multicast, where the latter makes it possible for the source to efficiently... [23:03] anycast, sorry [23:03] I've heard of anycast HTTP [23:03] yeah [23:03] I think I read a paper on it once... [23:03] not as good as dns, which is truly stateless [23:03] Ive never touched the stuff but I read up on it quite a bit because we were considering it [23:03] right [23:04] you'd need to do BGP of course [23:04] and have servers in multiple places [23:04] and take care of session state communication between nodes, etc... [23:05] *nod* [23:06] this is rather interesting [23:06] http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog37/presentations/matt.levine.pdf [23:06] I would like to make it out to nanog someday [23:08] neat [23:08] yeah I seem to remember reading you need a pretty big block to set up anycast [23:09] block of IPs? [23:09] just a /24 I think [23:09] yeah [23:09] because that's the minimum size to announce [23:10] with BGP [23:11] thats gotta get kinda spendy [23:11] heh http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1102025 [23:11] I'm sure the people who do anycast have lots of money [23:12] well, you'd get the /24 and an ASN from ARIN [23:12] and announce the block yourself at each location [23:12] lots of publice DNS services do anycast [23:13] I think google (8.8.8.8) does [23:13] also Level3 (4.2.2.2) [23:13] we just used cloudflare [23:13] oh right, them too [23:14] which broke a bunch of stuff for folks I heard [23:14] how's that? [23:14] specifically seo stuff [23:14] I am really not sure [23:14] I don't do seo [23:15] hmm, don't quite see how that works, but I don't do seo either [23:16] yeah another person I used to work for I was checking out their networks and asked her about the caching servers they use and this led to a conversation about seo and cloudflare [23:16] was a while ago [23:16] maybe she was talking about their cdn [23:16] that would make sense [23:16] yeah, probably [23:16] I don't think search engines care about dns [23:17] nah