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anisfarhana has joined #arpnetworks anisfarhana: Hail hail! mnathani: I have a bash script trying to ether-wake my machine, but it doesnt work. Contents are:
#!/bin/bash
sbin/ether-wake "00:1e:c9:e1:38:d4 -i eth0"
> /sbin/ether-wake "00:1e:c9:e1:38:d4 -i eth0" even ***: staticsafe|2 has joined #arpnetworks
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staticsafe|2 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) dne: mnathani: try without the quotes brycec: Agreed mnathani - the "-i eth0" is an option, shouldn't be part of the "Host-ID" argument
mnathani: there's also -D for debug info
And beyond that, confirm that WoL works on the target device, and the target is on the same broadcast domain mnathani: command works outside the script brycec: (I have no experience with WoL really, just going off http://linux.die.net/man/8/ether-wake)
mnathani: bash -x script
see what exactly it's doing
And I still think the -i needs to be outside the quotes.
it shouldn't work with it in the quotes
But, you know, see -D for what it's actually putting on the wire. dne: it might parse the host-id correctly anyway and ignore the trailing "junk", but then the "-i eth0" is lost brycec: (hence my suggestion to see -D) dne: yup, well, there's nothing there that requires quoting -: brycec nods mnathani: will try again once I am at the terminal brycec: Excuses excuses excuses. Come on, use your telekinesis :P mnathani: currently at lunch / weechat Android client
lol brycec: brain power spent on eating, eh? tsk tsk ***: Guest93560 is now known as pjs anisfarhana: brycec: Never try it before? brycec: Never tried... eating? I haven't lived this many years without trying "eating" anisfarhana: No, brain power spent while eating.
I still remember I'm working on something for about 20 hours without eating, and i cannot solve it in 20 hours. So i just take a rest and have my supper. Right after that, took me less than 5 minutes to solve it. ***: sjackso has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)
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RandalSchwartz has joined #arpnetworks RandalSchwartz: success... my server is now completely up to date! mnathani: success on my part too staticsafe: o/ RandalSchwartz: updating emacs broke irc.el, so I had to figure out where last-input-char went mnathani: brycec: removing the "" worked brycec: Good RandalSchwartz: so now I'm back! brycec: wb RandalSchwartz RandalSchwartz: and running perl 5.16 instead of 5.10 mnathani: brycec: turns out the machine I was targeting stopped responding to WOL packets, causing me to question the script RandalSchwartz: one of the shared libs installed funny, so I had to reinstall that brycec: RandalSchwartz: Any particular reason you're on 8.4? Just because it's LTS? staticsafe: ..you use emacs as your IRC client? -: brycec waits for emacs to gain the ability to bathe and clothe RandalSchwartz: yes
I'm on 8.4 because it wasn't that far from 8.3
and I wanted to minimize the risk
after I have a breather from this, I'll upgrade to 9 or 10 later in the year brycec: I just jumped from 9. to 10.0 this weekend :) RandalSchwartz: when I have more hair to pull out :)
is there a pkg command to verify all the shared libs make sense? brycec: It went perfectly smoothly, except the part where I forgot to "pkg upgrade" before the final freebsd-update.
RandalSchwartz: Like autoremove, to remove unneeded ones? RandalSchwartz: pg wouldn't start because an XML lib was broken
I'm just wondering if anything else is like that that I haven't noticed yet brycec: once you're 100% pkg, then the pkg ecosystem takes care of that RandalSchwartz: I thought I remember some command brycec: Or so I'm told. RandalSchwartz: no - it didn't :)
I had to parse the error message, use pkg which, then uninstall/reinstall brycec: Weird.
I know of pkg check and pkg shlib, but neither does exactly what you're looking for
Sounds like, to do what you want, a program would need to compile and link against every single library and test for failure. RandalSchwartz: ahh.. pkg check -B
I'll try that first brycec: pkg check -B is used to reanalyse shared libraries of installed packages.
Good luck :)
I suspect it just looks for what's installed, versus checking that what's installed works. RandalSchwartz: possibly
Oh... and pkg set -o ... for upgrading perl failed
so I just uninstalled perl5
and then pkg install `pkg rquery %o`
since my built ports were precisely what I wanted installed
anyway... no longer at risk of various certs :)
CERT
CVEs... whatever they're called
... red.stonehenge.com:~ +# pkg audit
0 problem(s) in the installed packages found.
yeay! m0unds: well, just disengaged my v6 tunnel again. congestion is dropping traffic coming in over the tun if to 1mbit/sec or less
wee brycec: Thanks for the reminder, m0unds
Don't ask what
But you reminded me
of something m0unds: hahahaha brycec: (I added ipv6 to my openvpn network a couple weeks ago, but I forgot to add the new address space to a couple of services) acf_: m0unds: really? my smokeping doesn't look bad yet RandalSchwartz: ok - that's weird. I didn't realize I had an audible account... must've signed up back in January on one of my drunken evenings. :)
and I have 4 credits to use... (max is 6, so I'm glad I got it...) m0unds: acf_: yeah, mine looks fine as well acf_: but you're seeing poor tcp performance? m0unds: yep acf_: 49% [==================> ] 51,872,934 6.54MB/s eta 9s
that's what I see m0unds: yeah, to the vm is fine
the tunnel side of it was problematic (i was using my vps as a tunnel endpoint) acf_: ah, ok
brycec: your smokeping is really cool
how did you do the remote host monitoring thingy? brycec: fwiw m0unds I can confirm that it's not just some flimsy limitation of tun :)
(setup my speedtest on the ivp6 tun/openvpn address, whee)
acf_: which page? m0unds: up til about a week ago, i was able to saturate my line here, so i don't know what's up but it's annoying brycec: acf_: or just the remote monitoring in general? acf_: yeah m0unds: so i cut out the annoying thing til it's not a problem anymore acf_: yeah m0unds, maybe you're seeing something else besides the Comcast congestion m0unds: spending a half hour downloading a 2.8GB patch, only to have it progress 30% is silly acf_: I've never had good luck with openvpn/tun for performance m0unds: well, this is a gif/ipip tunnel brycec: acf_: http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping/doc/smokeping_master_slave.en.html m0unds: so low overhead anyway brycec: m0unds: a gif tunnel you named tun? weirdo acf_: oh cool. I started using gretap a while ago m0unds: i shorthanded tunnel
with tun brycec: Ohh m0unds: it was actually named ip-0-0-0.0
since, junos brycec: Look at all this silly confusion you caused with that needless abbreviation :p m0unds: well, ip-0-0-0, unit 0 vlan 0, so ip-0-0-0.0
haha brycec: Only because tun(4) is a thing m0unds: yep, i know that too
til xbox one will receive content from msft via ipv6 if available
haha brycec: Oh that's good m0unds: i guess it makes sense - my wife was streaming netflix and it was hitting the tunnel too brycec: Should the xbox go directly to netflix for that?
Hm doesn't look like mine has a v6 address currently... but I can't be sure it's even on right now. acf_: netflix has v6 brycec: m0unds: One or 360 (or original?) m0unds: one
haven't tried 360
guess i could rollback my cfg change to try it, haha
just wanted to drive on nurbergring in forza, damn it
haha
err, nurburgring ***: staticsafe__ has joined #arpnetworks m0unds: huh, well, i noticed that the ip i was tunnelling to changed its route from the direct abq -> lax to abq -> denver -> sjc -> lax, so i'm trying again with the one remaining address that routes directly ***: staticsafe_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) up_the_irons: brycec: jpalmer : we send a notification any time your card declines
man scrollback is huge
acf_: send me an update mtr when you notice bad NTT -> Verizon stuff and I'll email NTT brycec: Well yeah up_the_irons, you've been absent for 3 days...
(absent==silent) up_the_irons: but even then, sometimes 3 days doesn't accrue too much. i'm usually not watching IRC over the weekend.
i think it's starbucks time, bbl brycec: truedat -: brycec wishes there were a *$ closer than 6mi RandalSchwartz: *$ needs delivery drones :) m0unds: hahaha -: m0unds imagines having coffee spilled on him by a drone RandalSchwartz: ñ
oops
I was just testing utf-8 still working
wait... I need a white smiley face
☺
oops..
yeah, that works brycec: @weather SFO BryceBot: San Francisco International, CA: Partly Cloudy ☁ 74°F (23°C), Humidity: 53%, Wind: From the WNW at 23 MPH Gusting to 30 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=37.61960983,-122.36557770 or re-request this with: @weather -v SFO brycec: More unicode RandalSchwartz: A little cloud!
@weather LHR BryceBot: Heathrow, United Kingdom: Clear 63°F (17°C), Humidity: 82%, Wind: From the West at 6 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=51.47750092,-0.46138901 or re-request this with: @weather -v LHR RandalSchwartz: darn it no clear unicode
@weather SYD BryceBot: Kingsford Smith International, New South Wales: Light Rain ☂ Showers 57°F (14°C), Humidity: 94%, Wind: From the South at 9 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-33.94649887,151.17309570 or re-request this with: @weather -v SYD RandalSchwartz: there we go! Rain! mercutio: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/netflix-refuses-to-comply-with-verizons-cease-and-desist-demands/
hmm BryceBot: Ars Technica: "Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands" mnathani: @weather dxb BryceBot: Dubai International, UAE: Clear 88°F (31°C), Humidity: 66%, Wind: From the South at 7 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=25.25389481,55.36560059 or re-request this with: @weather -v dxb mnathani: @weather pdx BryceBot: Portland International, OR: Scattered Clouds 73°F (22°C), Humidity: 48%, Wind: From the NNE at 5.0 MPH Gusting to 17.0 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=45.568871,-122.637115 or re-request this with: @weather -v pdx mnathani: @weather yyz BryceBot: Toronto-Pearson International, Ontario: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 72°F (22°C), Humidity: 57%, Wind: From the SSE at 8 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=43.67722321,-79.63055420 or re-request this with: @weather -v yyz mnathani: @weather khi BryceBot: Jinnah International, Pakistan: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 86°F (30°C), Humidity: 74%, Wind: From the SSW at 13 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=24.89999962,67.13333130 or re-request this with: @weather -v khi RandalSchwartz: @weather anc BryceBot: Stevens Anchorage International, AK: Overcast ☁ 59°F (15°C), Humidity: 58%, Wind: Calm -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=61.194088,-149.932892 or re-request this with: @weather -v anc RandalSchwartz: darn it... no snow there
@weather USH BryceBot: Ushuaia International Malvine Island, Argentina: Partly Cloudy ☁ 39°F (4°C), Humidity: 75%, Wind: Calm -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-54.84405136,-68.30818176 or re-request this with: @weather -v USH RandalSchwartz: @weather PMC BryceBot: El Tepual International, Chile: Overcast ☁ 52°F (11°C), Humidity: 88%, Wind: From the North at 20 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-41.43472290,-73.09750366 or re-request this with: @weather -v PMC RandalSchwartz: darn it
damn global warming
@weather PSY BryceBot: Error, No cities match your search query RandalSchwartz: @weather MPN BryceBot: Mount Pleasant, Falkland Islands: Clear 34°F (1°C), Humidity: 93%, Wind: From the NNE at 9 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-51.81998062,-58.44839859 or re-request this with: @weather -v MPN mercutio: spam RandalSchwartz: Not sure if you can get spam there. mercutio: the weather thing brycec: RandalSchwartz: you can always just PM BryceBot RandalSchwartz: I was looking for utf8 chars brycec: 'Sunny ☀',
'Cloudy ☁',
'Snow ❄'
'Rain ☂'
'Clear ☄'
'Thunderstorm ☈'
'Overcast ☁',
That's all you'll get out of BryceBot
At least for @weather
You can always feed Wikipedia through it
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%E5%92%8CC%2B%2B%E9%81%8B%E7%AE%97%E5%AD%90 BryceBot: C和C++運算子 :: 這裡是C和C++語言的運算子列表。所有列出的運算子皆含納於C++；第三個欄目裡的內容也使用C來描述。應當注意的是C不支援运算符重载。 下列運算子在兩個語言中都是順序點（運算子未重載時）： &&、||、?: 和 ,（逗號運算子）。 C++也包含類型轉換運算子const_cast、static_cast、dynamic_cast和reinterpret_cast，不在表中列出以維持簡� brycec: well that failed miserably
weird, BryceBot is totally utf8 friendly
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%8B_%D0%B2_C_%D0%B8_C%2B%2B BryceBot: Операторы в C и C++ :: Языки программирования Си и Си++ поддерживают сходный набор операторов. Некоторые из операторов недоступны в языке Си. Кроме того Си не поддерживает перегрузку операторов. Операторы &&, || и , (оператор comma), при условии что не пере RandalSchwartz: translated "Must Get Moose and Squirrel"
failed?
looked chinese to me
was it the wrong chars? mnathani: what wireless router do folks recommend if I plan on running DD-WRT / Tomato? mercutio: i use tp-links
cos they cheap
i'm using 4300
http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/tl-wdr4300 mnathani: This item is currently out of stock and it may or may not be restocked.
hmm
newegg.ca ^
mercutio: how well does it run openwrt ? mercutio: fine
i don't do anything fancy
i'm using gargoyle
but same diff
oh it's out of stock? mnathani: do you run different vlans at all? mercutio: http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WDR4300-Wireless-Gigabit-300Mbps/dp/B0088CJT4U
nope BryceBot: Amazon: "TP-LINK TL-WDR4300 Wireless N750 Dual Band Router, Gigabit, 2.4GHz 300Mbps+5Ghz 450Mbps, 2 USB port, Wireless On/Off Switch" mercutio: i'm not actually using it atm
well not directly
housemate is using it
as wireless client, bridging to ethernet
it's doing about 50 megabit, a usb stick was doing about 6 megabit mnathani: oh wow, thats quite a difference mercutio: yeah but it's 3 antenna
and the wirelss was just one of those mini usb wireless thingys
and he has pci
rather than pci-e
well for free slots mnathani: not bad for $68 bucks and free shipping mercutio: i'm also using a wireless ac card
err i was
on media box
but it seems to go funny when cmoputer goes into standby mode
it got way colder, and haven't been watching tv shows in that room :)
but this house is kind of terrible for wireless
and i think it's the house
rather than interferene
that said, it's more stable on 5.8 ghz
i also used to use it as a wireless ap
and tbh, at 2.4 ghz it's not really any better than tp-link 1043nd
i bet they're cheap now mnathani: I was looking at TL-WDR3600 also mercutio: yeh that's perttu much the same
except 300 megabit at 5 ghz
it depends if you're using double stream / tripple stream devices
that router, and my normal access point are the only tripple stream devices i have
i'm using a wireless ac access point
unifi uap-ac
and it crashes :/ mnathani: To be honest, I pretty much only need the NAT / Gigabit switching. I have a Cisco Aeronet APP mercutio: oh
i do my nat on pc tbh mnathani: and I never tried openwrt etc mercutio: i don't really like openwrt
but normal routers firmware sucks
gargoyle makes it easier to configure
i mean it's cool having linux and all
but it uses this god awful text editor
err the busybox one
and you can't update packages nicely without updating firmware
or you start running out of space
i'd much rather they just had a normal filesystem and compact flash / sdcard or such
and use openbsd :)
is it high bandwidth nat etc?
cos you could also go for something like cubietruck
low power arm computer dual core, 2gb ram, 8gb flash
gigabit ethernet, sdcard support, sata support
~$100 usd mnathani: not so much high bandwidth but higher concurrent connections
bittorrent, usenet, vpn etc mercutio: well once modems jumped from 8mb of ram to 32mb of ram they also were fine for that pretty much
with 16mb it was a bit hit and miss
but most of the ones that used to crash/lockup had 8mb of ram
and like that tp-link has 128mb of ram mnathani: Cable modem maxes out at about 38 mbits/sec mercutio: yeah that not really high bandwidth
it is nice having ssh and tcpdump
oh i don't have tcpdump installed
i have iperf installed :)
i'd rather go for arm board myself
just because it means you aren't cramped for space/size etc
can run what you like
but if you don't want to tweak lots
gargoyle isn't too bad
http://www.gargoyle-router.com/wiki/doku.php?id=screenshots mnathani: RAM Size = 32MB mercutio: what mnathani: on my Linksys: Wireless-N Gigabit RouterWRT310Nv2 mercutio: ahh
32mb should be ok
i used openwrt on tp-link 1043nd with 32mb of ram for ages mnathani: it drops the occasional packet here and there mercutio: that's not usally ram related
does openwrt support it?
i can't find it yet :) mnathani: http://tomatousb.org/forum/t-284894
some instructions on tomato
but I am not confident mercutio: tomato hardly runs on anything btw
i think it's broadcom noly rather than atheros or something
you might find it works better with tomato than default firmware mnathani: I would much rather get a secondary device than attempt something on the only internet gateway of the household mercutio: ahh right
i actually got a $20 router which i want to try openwrt on
haven't tried it yet, but it's meant to have support
and 64mb of ram i think
only 100 megabit ports
but i kind of like this wireless bridging thing now m0unds: i got a few refurb linksys e3000s for use as APs a couple years ago
they were like $35/ea on amazon and i run tomato on them
if you want something powerful to use for routing and something else for APs, check out mikrotik routerboard devices
some of the features are squirrelly, but they're generally significantly better than anything you'd get and slap openwrt or ddwrt on
if you only require 2.4GHz, http://routerboard.com/RB2011UiAS-2HnD-IN mercutio: ???
damnit, cant' use unicode
m0unds: that's more expensive than the arm boards?
they're also slower cpu than the tp-link 4300s
routerboard 1100ahx2 is ok
but thinks like 2011 are basically similar to the modems/routers
i have been wodnering if can stick linux on cloud core router though m0unds: ahx2 is junk
it's good at ipsec, but has thermal issues and horribly buggy firmware
also, some of the ports aren't on the switch chip, which adds 200+ms to first hop latency (not kidding) mercutio: rb2011 is liek that too
rb2011 you ahve to ignore half the ports
cloud core router doesn't even have a switch
it switches on the cpu
they're all kind of bad, but cheap
but powerpc vs mips is quite a jump in cpu mnathani: Mikrotik RB750GL Mini-Router 5 Gigabit Ethernet Ports can that device do an ipv6 tunnel to hurricane electric? mercutio: and you have to go through the core anyway if using things like nat jbergstroem: my rb1200 is suffering from the latency hit as well. not as bad as 200msec but jumping from the atheros chip to cpu bound is just.. shit mercutio: jber: did you disable connectino tracking?
routeros doesn't really scale
the new switch chips around actually support doing hardware nat jbergstroem: mercutio: yep. i mean, we're talking a few msecs here but it still non-zero which is annoying with gbit. mercutio: including the one in rb2011 i think
which i think is the same as what's in the tp-link
jber: ccr is pretty good for latency
a few msec is terrible
do you mean like 0.3 msec?
or like 3 msec? jbergstroem: mercutio: jitters in between those ranges depending on load. mercutio: and is that only when trying to push gigabit through it ?
and it's using hardware queues on the ethernet ports? jbergstroem: mercutio: not really, you get that penalty on <10% load as well. when i picked it up and started testing i thought i had faulty hardware all over the place until i realised i was hitting cpu outside of the switch plugs
mercutio: yeah. the first five are on an atheros 8316 m0unds: jbergstroem: yeah, same here - i used an rb1100ahx2 for about 2 months and gave up on it. i thought it was faulty out of the box, but nope mercutio: heh m0unds: the rb450g was pretty good, but the first run had production issues jbergstroem: haven't really done any more testing since. i just use the first five m0unds: latter ones had that fixed mercutio: jber: good solution :)
i'm onyl using abuot 5 ports i think on switch
which i think is 24 port heh
it can be easy to stay low in port count with all the wirelss etc these days jbergstroem: I have a few rb751g-2hnd as well. not very happy about them tbh. switch is all fine, but i've been fighting with its wifi for a good while. all kinds of issues
RB2011UiAS-2HnD-IN is a good bet. that's been my best experience to date. staticsafe: rb751g-2hnd is the one i have
wifi issues as well jbergstroem: :-/ mercutio: what has that got over the tp-link 3600 though? jbergstroem: if i got paid to admin these things (haha) i'd probably pick some other brand and go to openwrt. routeros is still a pretty good "setup once, just works" destination mercutio: it's the same cpu
rb2011 has more ports, but all the tp-link ones are on the switch
jber: until you ened to do a firmware upgrade
i'd love to see an open source solution better than openwrt myself m0unds: yep, openwrt and dd-wrt are super flakey
i wouldn't trust dd-wrt on anything mercutio: with 0 downtime security updates etc gizmoguy: I run lots of openwrt nodes m0unds: i found code in a whole run of builds that was intended for one of their commercial customers
(dd-wrt) mercutio: that's why i was advocating cubietruck :) m0unds: and it included hardcoded firewall rules and stuff
when i brought it up, i got banned from posting on their forums gizmoguy: lol jbergstroem: gizmoguy: do you bake your own stuff from openwrt trunk? gizmoguy: jbergstroem: I did for a time, but that got annoying jbergstroem: m0unds: yeah, openwrt is kinda the way to go gizmoguy: I just run the latest trunk builds from openwrt mercutio: is that for network testing gizmo? jbergstroem: gizmoguy: how do you handle upgrades (packages, configs, changes et al)? gizmoguy: Hah no. My house :) mercutio: oh gizmoguy: jbergstroem: I only use it for personal stuff
even then, I'm considering jumping ship to a proper CPE mercutio: why do you have lots of routers at home? gizmoguy: like the ubiquiti Edge Router Lite
I have 1 router at home m0unds: ERL++ mercutio: oh gizmoguy: but I also maintain a few networks for other people m0unds: those things are so fun mercutio: gizmoguy ? I run lots of openwrt nodes gizmoguy: yeah ERL 99$ USD
can't go wrong really mercutio: what cpu is in those?
oh gizmoguy: mercutio: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/MIPS/ERLite-3 m0unds: http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/edgemax/EdgeRouter_Lite_DS.pdf mercutio: that's the one that was going to be relased sometime for years right? gizmoguy: MIPS64
mercutio: yeah mercutio: it sounded good gizmoguy: runs a port of vyatta mercutio: can you run linux on it? gizmoguy: yes mercutio: can you run openbsd on it? gizmoguy: read the gentoo link
depends, does openbsd run on mips64? mercutio: it runs on some mips i'm pretty sure m0unds: it runs debian + vyatta by default iirc mercutio: it runs on octeon gizmoguy: mercutio: http://www.openbsd.org/octeon.html mercutio: whaich says cavium
and that says cavium
so yes :) gizmoguy: Look mercutio: it probably mostly works gizmoguy: Supported hardware:
Ubiquiti Networks EdgeRouter LITE mercutio: maye missing drivers
is that the same as v3?
oh it's not v3
it's just a weird url
Currently it is possible to install OpenBSD/octeon on the Portwell CAM-0100 machines, as they have a working storage driver. The DSR-500 and EdgeRouter LITE may also be used by booting over NFS. gizmoguy: afaik, I might be wrong here. I think there has only been one hardware revision so far mercutio: damnit gizmoguy: booting over nfs. lol
its funny
cause all you need to do is support USB mercutio: yeh but it's probably not that complicated.
what is it usb for hdd? gizmoguy: apparently their rootfs is stored on a removable pen drive inside the ERL
which seems cool to me mercutio: heh gizmoguy: take the original FW pen drive out
plug your own in
if you ever want to revert it, just swap pen drives mercutio: http://www.bsdguides.org/2014/freebsd-10-edgerouter-lite/
can you buy them in nz?
$160+gst
ouch gizmoguy: Yup, buy them from gowifi
yeah
really expensive mercutio: http://www.amazon.com/EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-512MB-Ethernet-Router/dp/B00CPRVF5K BryceBot: Amazon: "EdgeRouter Lite ERLite-3 512MB 3 Ethernet Ports Router" gizmoguy: buy it from amazon and use a US mail forwarding service mercutio: you shouldn't need mail forwrading gizmoguy: Only 2 left in stock.
Race ya mercutio mercutio: i'm not going to buy it right now :) gizmoguy: I'll buy both and sell you one for $159 mercutio: just proceeding to checkout
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goddamnit gizmoguy: yeah thought so mnathani: one million packet per second? does that still hold true for NAT? mercutio: it'll be hardware nat
but they have some kind of network acceleration buffer thing with fsat sram too i think mnathani: only 3 ethernet ports though mercutio: just use a switch :/ gizmoguy: how many do you want in a router? mercutio: they have autosending power supply gizmoguy: I'll sell you an 8 port SRX ? mnathani: can this one do dual wan? mercutio: i remember reading about thse things ages ago
they did sound cool gizmoguy: according to some block posts apparently version 1.2 of the ERL firmware does policy based routing mnathani mercutio: my i7 makes a fine router though gizmoguy: mnathani: https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX-Configuration-Examples/EdgeMAX-Automatic-WAN-failover-with-PBR-load-balancing/ta-p/511289
um wait no, this one
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX-Configuration-Examples/EdgeMAX-Dual-WAN-load-balance-feature-v1-4-0/ta-p/699501 mnathani: gizmoguy: thanks m0unds: i loves my srx gizmoguy: m0unds: played with the virtual srx stuff? (firefly)
I just setup my first vsrx last night
it's like an official version of olive :) m0unds: nope, not yet gizmoguy: m0unds: http://www.juniper.net/support/downloads/?p=junosvfirefly-eval#sw m0unds: oh, didn't realize they had an eval
neat gizmoguy: yeah "eval"...
it's soft licenced
it runs forever m0unds: oh.
well shit. i know what i'll be doing this week at work
haha gizmoguy: :D
it's super cool
the only limit, is you can only have 10 interfaces m0unds: oh darn, only 10
hahaha gizmoguy: but, you can get around that by using vlans
so
m0unds: http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/firefly12.1x46-d10/topics/reference/general/security-virtual-perimeter-feature-support-kvm.html
here's everything it supports m0unds: oh no, they don't support tftp algs?!?!? gizmoguy: BGP Yes
IS-IS Yes m0unds: hah gizmoguy: OSPF yes
mpls yes m0unds: if cisco did this, you'd have to pay $2500 for the eval to get bgp, ospf and mpls support gizmoguy: so uh.. yeah free juniper ;)
and it's even a recent version m0unds: yeah, i think htat's the same build on my srx210he dj_goku: so the downtime is tonight right?
oh wait this isn't for everyone. :D m0unds: --- JUNOS 12.1X46-D10.2 built 2013-12-18 02:03:20 UTC gizmoguy: I vote we take down ever node, give them a break
every* dj_goku: hmmm gizmoguy: Model: firefly-perimeter
JUNOS Software Release [12.1X46-D10.2] dj_goku: guess I'll just shut it down. I presume all will be brought back up? :D m0unds: this release fixed flow-based routing w/ipv6 gizmoguy: dj_goku: usually
m0unds: root@Amnesiac> show system license
License usage: none
Licenses installed: none m0unds: haha gizmoguy: and everything works
I love it m0unds: too cool
i'm definitely gonna check it out -: dj_goku waves to d^_^b ***: d^_^b has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) m0unds: juniper screwed up my acct and gave me entitlements to download software images for any juniper product except pulse vpn devices gizmoguy: there's meant to be restrictions on what you can download? m0unds: yeah, they're supposed to be tied to j-care gizmoguy: hm m0unds: or support contracts for products gizmoguy: I seem to be able to download most things
and I don't have a support contract m0unds: funny, maybe they changed it? gizmoguy: I even managed to convince them to give me domestic versions m0unds: my buddy works for an isp up in portland and he can only get downloads for products they have deployed w/active support contracts
nice gizmoguy: technically my account is tied to equipment on the jacademic alliance stuff dj_goku: gizmoguy: alright. I might have forgot my root login. lol gizmoguy: hm ok, I thought everyone always got access to anything ;)
dj_goku: password m0unds: i had issues registering my srx, so they gave me complimentary j-care for 6 months gizmoguy: password1
password2 dj_goku: lol gizmoguy: m0unds: nice
someone should force me to start working again m0unds: gizmoguy: go work or you can never have scotch again gizmoguy: Oh no! :( -: dj_goku I'll just let it forcefully shutdown then. gizmoguy: I'm about 200 levels deep into an openstack cluster that doesn't work
dj_goku: if you have ACPI you'll be all good
KVM sends ACPI shutdown to all VMs before it stops dj_goku: ahh alright. I need to upgrade openbsd anyways soon. m0unds: packet loss doesn't seem as terrible tonight
latency is still wonky on that inbound nlayer link though, twice as high as off-peak mercutio: it's hard to know if it's inbuond or asymmetric issues
i think up_the_irons wwnated mtr's to sent to ntt m0unds: the ntt thing is way upstream mercutio: and asymmetric makes it more annoying
yeh i know it upstream
maybe running mtr --report hourly is a good idea m0unds: okay, so the outbound (NTT) is normal, no loss, no latency spikes, nothing
i've had it running for an hour mercutio: i have us.battle.net as an at&t address, www.comcast.net as comcast address
but verizon is on akamai
to wehre? ***: dj_goku_ has joined #arpnetworks m0unds: http://pastebin.com/S9EaF9Qx
the hop on the bottom w/the <-- on it is the comcast ip that has been contributing to 10-20% packet loss the last 6 nights
it's been completely fine. i restarted mtr on accident (meant to close another terminal and closed that one) ***: dj_goku has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) acf_: m0unds: super strange
http://kremvax.acfsys.net/smokeping.cgi?target=Remote.verizonnet
set up my smokeping to probe from Amazon EC2 as well m0unds: `could just be that the comcast one isn't bad tonight acf_: http://kremvax.acfsys.net/smokeping.cgi?target=Remote.comcastnet
no it's bad CaZe: Did you give Comcast extra money? acf_: yes and they still haven't fixed it >:( m0unds: what address are you probing? acf_: comcast.net m0unds: just comcast.net? mercutio: need a good verizon address to trace acf_: http://kremvax.acfsys.net/smokeping.cgi?target=Local.comcasthome
this is my Comcast cable connection mercutio: www.comcast.net is on akamai acf_: but comcast.net isn't m0unds: comcast.net isn't though mercutio: oh right
oh and verizon.net isn't either m0unds: i saw some spikes to 60ms, but almost no packet loss mercutio: it is monday night in teh US? m0unds: yep, but i was seeing worse tue-sun mercutio: i dunno if things are different there, but monday night's tend to have less internet traffic here
less traffic on streeets too
but that's just a generla rule, there's also more internet traffic in poor weather
but generally i'd say wed through saturday are higher for residential
and evening congestino suggests residential
i wonder if netflix is going over ntt or something now m0unds: they use ntt in their blend RandalSchwartz: it's redirecting over EDGE :) mercutio: verizon.net is still bad
although it looks like link aggregation bad
two hops are worse in the middle then one earlier and oen alter, ... ***: dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks
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dj_goku_ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) mercutio: yeah right now verizon is bad, comcast is fine, and at&t is slightly bad
but i'd just tested comcast before adn there was loss m0unds: yea, squirrelly shit
haa
haha brycec: For those wondering, OpenBSD/octeon doesn't have USB support yet due to licensing (as usual). So until someone r-e's USB support and writes a completely free driver for it, ERL is limited to netbooting. mercutio: lame
well someone could read the linux driver
and document it
and someone else wriet openbsd driver brycec: IIRC the Linux+FreeBSD drivers use a Cavium SDK mercutio: which is closed source? brycec: Which is licensed
I'm not the most reliable source on these things... Just stuff that bcallah@ (builder of snaps, among other OBSD things) has said mercutio: kind of annoying
https://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/mips/Octeon'
that sems to have some info
ndas suck
broadcom have a whole lot of binary drivers in linux
on most routers m0unds: branch series SRXes are powered by an octeon plus cpu @ 600mhz ***: pseudorandom has joined #arpnetworks m0unds: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2543312/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 this is pretty good so far BryceBot: Error fetching information for http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2543312/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1: Not Found m0unds: haha, latency came back up again acf_: I wonder if for some reason a ton more traffic just started going over that link
and NTT/Comcast just haven't been able to upgrade it yet m0unds: or aren't planning on it, haha
just hit 2100 west coast
had a good blip of solid low latency though acf_: yeah, I see that
it looks like it's a lot less saturated than the Verizon one
that reminds me of T-Mobile
I get like 30Kb/s here
on 3.5G
and dropped calls
so I called them and asked them what was up milki: and then the call was dropped m0unds: hahaha acf_: lol not quite
they told me that their networks sucks and they have no plans to fix it within the next 6 months milki: wow thats frank m0unds: hahaha acf_: any of you on T-Mobile? m0unds: i was for 2 months
it was awful
haha
i was on it in the early 00s when tmo acquired voicestream in the us acf_: yeah, probably I'm going the AT&T route soon
it's like the same price m0unds: that was okay til they changed my plan without telling me and i racked up a $300 phone bill one month
yeah, i'm on at&t in abq
they've been solid - i've heard san fransisco is a rough market for them
dunno if you're ever that far north acf_: I'd rather have reliable service here and spotty service other places than the other way around m0unds: gotcha
they expanded their rural coverage in NM pretty heavily
i drove up to denver via us-285, which is really sparsely populated, and i had hspa+ the whole way acf_: they're upgrading to LTE here
in the suburbs
I live right next to the cell site they're upgrading atm
and the took off the cage for the upgrade -: acf_ looks for pictures m0unds: the wind carried a radio rig right off the top of a vzw tower out here a few years ago
it was funny
fell down in the parking lot
one of those enclosed/shielded ones mercutio: it's pretty windy here right now
@weather auckland BryceBot: Auckland, New Zealand: Light Rain ☂ 55°F (13°C), Humidity: 99%, Wind: From the NE at 6.0 MPH Gusting to 15.2 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-36.973896,174.878021 or re-request this with: @weather -v auckland mercutio: what
it's more than that
@weather "north shore, auckland" BryceBot: Multiple locations matched your query: North, SC (zmw:29112.1.99999), North, VA (zmw:23128.1.99999), mercutio: uhh m0unds: lol
nice mercutio: oh you can use gps coordinates m0unds: i think some of the PWS' have bad anemometers or whatever mercutio: yeh but it's also not close enoguh to me :/ m0unds: because remember i said it was windy as hell here and the data showed 4mph or whatever
lame mercutio: haha
yeah acf_: http://unixcube.org/who/acf/tmp/14050162.jpg mercutio: it says east 43km/h gust 61km/h m0unds: 48v ftw mercutio: on the weather forecast
i think its' udpated every 10 minutes or something, but wind is a strange thing
you can get lots of tunnels etc where it's higher
hmm it's getting windier tonight
and wetter
13mm/hour later it seems
i watn a weather meter heh m0unds: latency stabilized again mercutio: i'll run my script again
i didn't cron it heh acf_: mercutio: script? mercutio: mtr --report --report-cycles=100 verizon.net
mtr --report --report-cycles=100 comcast.net
mtr --report --report-cycles=100 us.battle.net
just something basic :/ acf_: oh cool mercutio: it kind of needs to echo what it's tracing to acf_: up_the_irons: here you are:
http://paste.unixcube.org/k/d249f2 m0unds: http://i.imgur.com/j4Y56wZ.png acf_: Verizon mtr
http://pastebin.com/S9EaF9Qx
Comcast mtr (from m0unds) mercutio: yours is like mine acf_: http://kremvax.acfsys.net/smokeping.cgi?target=Remote.comcastnet mercutio: see how hoes 9 and 6 are worse acf_: comcast Smokeping
http://kremvax.acfsys.net/smokeping.cgi?target=Remote.verizon-lsanca mercutio: 9.|-- 206.46.228.129 7.0% 100 62.8 63.1 62.5 65.1 0.2 acf_: Verizon smokeping mercutio: 10.|-- 206.46.232.39 11.0% 100 63.7 64.2 62.8 68.6 1.1
for some reason last hop gives me more now
comcast.net is fine again acf_: still some latency on that affected hop m0unds: yea, it's not too bad though
not adding 60ms like usual, haha
err, 30 mercutio: the comcast was never as bad acf_: so, say the Verizon thingy degraded to like 50% packet loss eventually
the link would be effectively out completely mercutio: http://pastebin.com/LykYgs6S
does aznyone use at&t m0unds: as an isp? acf_: I've never had them
this is kind of neat though:
http://ipnetwork.bgtmo.ip.att.net/ mercutio: i just test it cos i used to have issues with battle.net m0unds: ah mercutio: and it tends to have problems :/
it's used ntt for ages
and used to be fine
but cogent to at&t used to be bad acf_: that's strange m0unds: huh, neat
i like data acf_: in the mtr it looks like 28ms of latency is coming from within ntt mercutio: it needs java acf_: 4. ae-3.r05.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt. 0.0% 52 0.8 0.8 0.7 2.1 0.1
5. ae-0.att.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt. 1.9% 52 26.1 29.9 24.5 34.0 2.2 m0unds: too bad it needs java for some of the functionality mercutio: umm yeh that is strange
considering it's los angeels the whole way it seems m0unds: what paste app is that you're using? homebrew? acf_: yeah
written in golang m0unds: cool acf_: question: can anyone with an IPv6 tunnel reach http://ipnetwork.bgtmo.ip.att.net/ ?
it seems to have broken path mtu discovery for me m0unds: yea, i was able to, but i don't know whether it used ipv6 acf_: hmm ok. it just times out for me now
because the tcp connection is established, but the packets get too big and are all dropped m0unds: fwiw, it was super slow RandalSchwartz: last hop 2001:1890:c00:6c02::11b5:9dbe staticsafe: i reached that over v6
HE tunnel ***: pseudorandom has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) brycec: http://ipnetwork.bgtmo.ip.att.net/ loads fine for me over HE (and over ARP) acf_: hmm... my configuration must be jacked then
my router seems to be sending ICMP PTB messages though...
brycec: do you happen to remember your tunnel MTU?
23:19:29.563332 IP6 2607:f2f8:a0e0:4::2 > 2001:1890:1c00:3221::4:1022: ICMP6, packet too big, mtu 1440, length 1240
it's sending a bunch of those brycec: acf_: 1280
(nothing that I set... I guess it's gif's default) acf_: hmm ok thanks
do you happen to have any ideas? brycec: nope acf_: ok. I was having this problem with http://sprintlink.net/ a long time ago, but it went away
also http://www.enterprise.com/ ***: mus1cb0x has joined #arpnetworks brycec: holy crap, a non-tech company with ipv6 acf_: yeah it's cool
but it sucks when you have to force v4 in your browser when you want to rent a car mus1cb0x: up_the_irons: i'd like to see if my vps on 14 comes down cleanly when you take it down for os upgrade tonight. how can i do that? (fbsd 9.2) brycec: I'm jealous of Sprint's address, 2600:: acf_: I know. That's like the 8.8.8.8 IPv6 mus1cb0x: dang, why did spring get 2600::? acf_: they didn't actually get the while thing, just the first part mus1cb0x: ccc should have gotten it, or l0pht lol brycec: acf_: more like having 1.0.0.0 acf_: yeah
I'm happy the sprint people put it to good use though :) brycec: 2600::/29
That's huge acf_: 16 /32s right? brycec: 8
:0 through :7:ffff_ up_the_irons: mus1cb0x: i start shutting them off at 00:05 PDT. If yours doesn't go down by 00:07 or so, you should manually shut it off. I keep retrying for 5 minutes. at 00:10, the whole box goes down.
mus1cb0x: acf_ brycec : I was a little too late for my /32 to be in 2600::, i've always been jealous
mine started at 2607::, as y'all know
acf_: can i ask you to send me that paste in a ticket (support@arpnetworks.com), otherwise i'm likely to forget forward to NTT mus1cb0x: up_the_irons: ok i'll be here and watching the clock at :05. if it doesn't go down by :07 i'll manually shut it down
if i'm watching console would i see an acpi shutdown attempt?
(if it fails to take affect) up_the_irons: mus1cb0x: you'll see it shutdown at least :) acf_: up_the_irons: of course, just a bit :) up_the_irons: :) mus1cb0x: btw is it just me or is it weird when women butcher their eyebrows down to thin unnatural lines? up_the_irons: it's f'in weird and i hate it mus1cb0x: THANK YOU up_the_irons: np
:) mus1cb0x: i don't know who sells women on this but it's NOT a friend of woman up_the_irons: even worse: they shave 'em completely and pencil in their own mus1cb0x: omfg yea
"hey miss potato head" up_the_irons: women sell it to women b/c secretly they are all in competition with one another. "omg, that looks so good on you!" really means "now your boyfriend will like me more" mus1cb0x: HAHAHAH you could have something up_the_irons: :) mus1cb0x: yea it's always the weirdos with eyebrow regret telling other ppl with lucious natural eyebrows they have monobrow or w/e
keep your jokes, joker (catch the double double?)
joker from batman, the dude who looks like a FREAK up_the_irons: hah -: mus1cb0x gets punchy ahead of server maintenance up_the_irons: holy crap u guys have made many other channels: http://irclogger.arpnetworks.com/irclogger_logs
;)
and kick [FBI] in each of 'em
haha
oh hey, if anyone local (Los Angeles) wants a Lifeform executive chair, i'm selling mine for $1500 (orig paid $2300 new)
or make me an offer mus1cb0x: hey at least they aren't using your subdomain to log #bearcave chatter up_the_irons: lol
yeah