up_the_irons: CaZe: it'll be on twitter
   
 i start at the beginning of maintenance window, on the dot
   CaZe: Oh, so I should power down now then.
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   up_the_irons: looks like CaZe powered down ;)
   brycec: lol
   
 mnathani: Ah you're migrating secondary domains
   
 <.<
   
 >.>
   up_the_irons: $ uptime
   
 23:49:12 up 1429 days, 20:52,  2 users,  load average: 6.70, 5.80, 5.30
   
 $
   
 damn i hate to ruin that
   brycec: Good luck, I guess. (because I have nothing else I could say)
   
 up_the_irons: for PROGRESS
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   jbergstroem: sheit
   
 thats pretty amazing for a vm host
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   CaZe: What?
   up_the_irons: jbergstroem: i have ones up even longer than that
   jbergstroem: up_the_irons: how many psu's have you churned through one of those uptimes?
   up_the_irons: jbergstroem: none actually
   jbergstroem: wow
   CaZe: Sweet, my VPS is back up.
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   up_the_irons: CaZe: yep, upgrade went quite smooth
   CaZe: Cool, now I can go to sleep. :P
   up_the_irons: :)
   mnathani: up_the_irons: How are the load averages on kvr10 now?
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   up_the_irons: $ uptime
   
 02:43:32 up  1:49,  1 user,  load average: 0.41, 0.60, 1.04
   
 $
   
 mnathani: ^^
   
 pretty low at the moment
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   mnathani: up_the_irons: do you have something like cacti graph the load averages over time for all the kvr hosts?
   phlux: just had a filling fall out that was about 50% of my tooth :(
   m0unds: phlux: that sucks
   
 had something similar happen last year, had to get a crown put in in october
   up_the_irons: mnathani: i have munin graphs
   phlux: m0unds: did getting the crown hurt?
   m0unds: nah
   
 good dentists numb the shit out of your mouth
   phlux: man
   
 I have to use military dentists 99% of the time
   
 suuuuuuuuuuucks
   
 I hope this civilian dentist will hook me up with some nitrous oxide tomorrow
   mercutio: hmm my vps went down
   
 hmm panic on free list modified
   
 in the em driver
   
 hopefulyl kvr15 gets updated soon :)
   up_the_irons: sounds like there is a vote for kvr15...
   
 i'm doing kvr23 next week, i think...
   
 i might do two next week, so...
   mercutio: they're not exactly in order are they
   up_the_irons: nope
   
 mainly by need
   mercutio: did level3 get up?
   
 cos i think it was a couple of days ago or something you were saynig some config on your end was nedded
   
 but level3 had got their end done i think?
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   djmarlino: almost ready leve3 ?
   
 level3
   mercutio: heh
   
 i had just asked half an hour before you came in
   djmarlino: hey mercutio what version of openbsd use?
   mercutio: djmarlino: some version just after the annoying changes
   
 but before the proper release
   
 i should probably update it sometime
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   up_the_irons: level3 took a pretty long time diagnosing what seems to be some layer 1 problem on their side.  our bgp session kept bouncing consistently (after like 3 minutes), and i think they finally fixed it.
   
 i have to investigate further though
   
 might need to clean some fiber on my end, since they see some loss still
   
 oh look, Level 3 is up for outbound (i haven't announced our routes yet)
   
 mtr out from your vps / dedi and you'll see
   brycec: DOH first host I mtr'd from my VPS: arpnetworks.com
   
 4.2.2.2 was a solid second choice
   
 <1ms to 4.2.2.2
   CaZe: What is mtr?
   
 Oh, traceroute + ping/
   up_the_irons: brycec: LOL "arpnetworks.com"
   
 what is that , like 1 hop? ;)
   
 CaZe: mtr is basically a replacement for traceroute.  i've never used traceroute after discovering mtr.  SOOOO much nicer
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   djmarlino: do it traceroute and keep ntt?
   
 from kvr28
   up_the_irons: we still have ntt, with full routes from ntt and level3, so you'll see either one or the other
   
 depending on bgp path selection (generally, shortest ASN path)
   djmarlino: like what asn for example?
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   djmarlino: level 3 works fine
   brycec: Like AS3356 :P
   
 And yes up_the_irons, 1 hop between VPS and arpnetworks.com. And oddly, slightly higher latency (.2ms) than to 4.2.2.2
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   mercutio: oh hmm yes indeed 4.2.2.2 moved
   
 lots of stuff i trace to is on coresite :)
   
 and more ntt than level3 so far
   
 probably cos it's a vm
   
 usually vm's are 0.1 to 0.2 msec higher pings than real machines
   
 so when total ping time is around 0.6 that can factor in
   up_the_irons: cacti graphs are showing more traffic to ntt than to level 3
   
 like 60% ntt and 40% level 3
   mercutio: it looked that way from mtr
   
 bu ti have no idea about cable etc users
   
 or what ip to trace to :)
   
 it may make sense to push cogent or such via level3 rather than ntt